WW XXXIII - Other Minds and Hands - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

No. By Day 2 we will have voting records, a Night's kill and all the information from toDay to study. Arguments on Day 2 generally focus on individuals rather than ideas. But I changed my mind anyway so never mind!

But enough of that, it's toDay we have to focus on right now. So:

Shasta - told us he (?) wouldn't be around much so haven't exactly got any ideas about him (?).

Ang - has been having fun with his character, but there's nothing sinister in that. I do wonder why he pointed out the possible existence of extra roles, as this was something we all knew might happen from the admin thread and then from the narration. Trying to be helpful or just trying to make his post longer perhaps. It is also odd that he would point out wolvish tactics, as that is something that often brings suspicion. If anything he is acting like he would expect a not-quite-so-experienced wolf to act. A ruse perhaps, but in which direction I don't yet know.

Volo - um, I don't actually entirely understand his first post but he has since returned to say that he thinks Mith, Lommy, Legate and Aganzir seem innocent though there aren't really reasons for any of that. Is 'afraid' of Mac and Ang because of their tones but doesn't want to say anything until he has some actual facts. Bit hedging your bets there. I hope we see something a bit more concrete before Day ends.

Aganzir - mentions Sixth jumping on Sauce's joking accusation of Ang and says she doesn't like the tone of Legate's posts either. There are some good bits of reasoning behind both ideas, and there is a promise of returning later, so I'm quite comfortable with Aganzir at the moment.

Mith - there are some words of wisdom scattered within the banter, especially those about the voting. Double-lynches. *shudders* With so many wolves those really could be bad for us at the beginning. Her 'silence is not golden' point was a good one too. Plus, what she is saying in silliness is making me laugh out loud! It may just be the endorphins from happiness but I'm putting Mith in the innocent pile toDay.

Legate - his first post was all about the roles that haven't been explicitly stated, and there seemed to be a call for all to reveal, a dangerous move so early in the game. We've also seen nothing but banter and some defense about his previous statements, so I'm not too keen on him right now.

xyzzy - we've had only the one post from him and it was entirely banter. Hopefully we'll see more of him before the end of the Day.

Gil - mentions his hatred of Day 1 which may be why we've seen nothing from him since that first post. I can only hope he doesn't just pop in with a vote with no reasoning and then disappear again. After the last game I have expectations!

Rune - a sudden burst of annoyance at Mac over the banter thing has made it appear that he is talking with susbstance, but in fact apart from a mention that Mac was trying to stir things up he really hasn't said anything at all. One to watch out for I think.

Di - votes for Gil, for no real reason I think, but she did have to go early. It's hardly an excuse but then with how few people had spoken at the time she didn't have much to go on. No condemnation for that.

Sauce - seemed unimpressed by events so far and made some joking comments about various people. Then thought Legate odd (which I agree with) and made a comment about the possibility of Lovers (which I really hope aren't around), both of which were good points and had some evidence to back them up. Mentions some suspicion of Sixth for jumping on his joking accusation of Ang and then votes for him. Everything seems quite above board here, and the food isn't half bad, I'm keeping Sauce as innocent.

Brinniel - we've only had one post from her toDay and it had nothing of any substance in it. Again we'll have to hope she turns up later with something to say.

Boro - voted for himself, apparently to try and get people talking, but when found that didn't work he retracted his vote and voted for Ang 'for no real reason'. Now, having exonerated Di for doing the same thing I can hardly jump on Boro for it either. However, it feels more forced than Di's vote did. I know that's terrible reasoning, but how can you explain a feeling?

Sixth - mentions that Ang looks suspicious, and then says this idea was backed up by Sauce. Though Sauce's accusation was just banter it seems that he took it seriously, but then Sixth also thinks Sauce looks suspicious. Mm, I can see why people are voting for him, but I think I want to give him the benefit of the doubt for toDay at least. There is definitely some miscommunication going on.

Lommy - worried that people such as Ang, Mith and Legate have been spending their time chatting about nothing rather than trying to come up with anything constructive which is a fair point, and finds a comment from Ang that makes her worried about him. Also mentions Sixth and his 'jumping' on Sauce's accusation of Ang. Then thinks Mac is being odd in lumping Ang, Mith and Legate together with Rune, Brinn and Gil, when the former three had actually managed to get something constructive into their posts when the latter three had not. This is a very good point, and it seems odd that Mac would do such a thing. Votes for Sixth in the end because he was the only one that had really caught her attention. Well, she has made about the most posts so far, has come up with some very good points and has spoken with substance rather than just banter, and she seems to be acting like 'normal', so I'm going to put her down as innocent.

Mac - thinks Legate looks odd, picks up on a point from me and agrees with Lommy and Sauce about Sixth. I agree with the first point and I've responded to the second at the top of this post. As for that third comment. Sixth has been accused because he 'jumped' on Sauce's accusation. Well what is everyone doing now but 'jumping' on this accusation of Sixth! I don't know, it feels like a bandwagon in the making without anything substantial behind it. Says Rune is being overly defensive, which indeed he did seem to be. Defends himself against Lommy but not very effectively as his argument seems to be 'oh did I do that? silly old me, but don't worry, there was a reason'. Still suspects Legate and Sixth but we've not had a vote yet. Something odd about this one.

Well I think that's everyone. I forgot how long those things take.

Where's spawn when you need her? Oh, wait, Durelin is missing! Hope she gets here before the deadline. Now, let's see.

Innocent:
Aganzir
Mith
Di
Sauce
Lommy
Kath

Guilty:
Ang
Legate
Rune
Boro
Mac

No idea:
Shasta
Gil
Brinniel
xyzzy
Durelin
Volo
Sixth

These are (obviously) very rough lists which aren't in order, but it's just to help me work out what I'm thinking. I'll have to vote relatively soon as I won't be here at the deadline. In fact, I'm going to vote now.

++ RUNE

I'd dearly love to vote Mac, but I want to see what else he has to say for himself first and I won't be able to before the end of the Day, so Rune it is.