Orcs... were elves?

[Kuruharan]

This all means that the elves were willing to accept the idea that orcs were taken from their own stock because the laughter of elves and orcs were somehow similar..?

I think the development of orcs went through several stages. The first was corrupted animals and some of these bodies were inhabited by fallen ainur. Then elvish strains were added in followed by mannish they came along.

The renegade quote is very interesting as perhaps the Drûgs retained a clearer cultural memory of what happened to some of their members in their earliest days? Being the crafty woodsmen that they were perhaps they followed as some of their kinsmen were dragged off and observed what happened to them afterwards.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Was "the light of Aman" really comparable to the sound a flushing toilet?

And here I had always thought of it as being more like the flowing of a babbling brook...