WWJ X: Hithlum Zydeco Blues; Hísilómë in Hísimë

[Macalaure]

Nogrod was a bit angry about everybody in the beginning for not showing up. Aggressive he was only towards Eomer and Roa.

Though wolves like to cause confusion, they usually don't like to get the rope for it. Nogrod didn't seem to mind a lot.

Alright, in a way the lynching of Nogrod was good. He left trails. If we lynched Eomer and found him innocent, we would have had close to nothing. I was a bit one-sided about this because I was very confident about Nogrod's innocence. However, I haven't conveniently forgotten anything. Notice that I don't attack Jenny for voting Nogrod.

But your near-deadline behaviour of yesterDay is still shady to me. I'd really like to hear more opinions about it. Come on, people! Good weather is no excuse for not sitting at your computer.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm here, and will hopefully have something more to add in a bit. One thought which strikes me is this. The wolves did not want Nogrod dead. He was a loudmouth and was making enemies and attracting suspicion like a flashy enemy-making-suspicion-attracting supercomputer.

Obviously this makes me look good because I voted for him ( ) but I think the point is still worth thinking about. The wolves would likely rely on the rest of the Ordos to round up the trouble-causing Nogrod. The wolves could afford to just stay the hell away from that battle, thinking they would look good in the process.

And no, that's not shady manipulation: I take great responsibility for Nogrod's death and am sorry about it. It took a couple of bottles of stiff whisky to get some shut-eye last night.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Mormegil for Valier: (Valier 1)

Kitanna for Nogrod: (Valier 1; Nogrod 1)

Eomer for Nogrod: (Valier 1; Nogrod 2)

Mithalwen for JennyHallu: (Valier 1; Nogrod 2; JennyHallu 1)

Macalaure for Roa_Aoife: (Valier 1; Nogrod 2; JennyHallu 1; Roa_Aoife 1)

Valier for Eomer: (Valier 1; Nogrod 2; JennyHallu1; Roa_Aoife 1; Eomer 1)

Roa_Aoife for Nogrod: (Valier 1; Nogrod 3; JennyHallu 1; Roa_Aoife 1; Eomer 1)

Macalaure switches from Roa to Eomer: (Valier 1; Nogrod 3; JennyHallu 1; Eomer 2)

Nogrod for Eomer: (Valier 1; Nogrod 3; JennyHallu 1; Eomer 3)

JennyHallu for Nogrod: (Valier 1; Nogrod 4; JennyHallu 1; Eomer 3)

Kuruharan for Macalaure: (Valier 1; Nogrod 4; JennyHallu 1; Eomer 3; Macalaure 1)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Kuruharan and Macalaure are playing us like fiddles. See them tease each other about jumpiness! See Mac vote for Roa in the hope of turning her into the next Nogrod-style-sacrifice (loud, argumentative players are good sport). See Kuru vote for Mac at the end yesterday, calling it 'a protest-vote'. See them setting up opposite camps today.

See them grinning behind those huge, sharp teeth!

[JennyHallu]

Eomer, I do not wonder but that you might be right about those two. I have not felt comfortable with Kuruharan all game, and I wonder that his quietness over the past two days is suddenly supplanted with discussion between himself and Mac. I still think that either Roa or Kitanna are wolves, but Kuru is definitely also a suspect.
So, incidentally, are you, but certainly not high on my list.

Mith also rounds out my list of worrisome characters.

This unfortunately leaves only Val and myself as people I'm sure are innocent. *sigh*

For now though, I think I know where my vote should be.

++Kuruharan

I'll try to be here through the rest of the day, but I don't know how much time I'll have for discussion.

[Roa_Aoife]

First off, I apologize for my lateness. (See TiGJ for more info.)

Secondly, Nogrod was innocent, so now I'm stumped. I'm still going to do my analysis of Kitanna, but my main suspicion of her was Nogrod's continual attack on her. Also, someone with more time may want to start analysis of the Nogrod and Eomer bandwagons. I'll see if I can get to a few before time runs out.

Eomer... your point about Mac and Kuru may have some merit, but I'd like to see where you get that from first.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Nogrod, though I will likely keep arguing for your death, please know that, if you are innocent, you will more than likely be very useful after you are gone. While I am very reluctant to take your theories at face-value just now, I will obviously give them the greatest of respect if I know their creator was of a good heart.

Originally Posted by Eomer

The wolves did not want Nogrod dead. He was a loudmouth and was making enemies and attracting suspicion like a flashy enemy-making-suspicion-attracting supercomputer.

So much for that.

Nogrod's theories were mainly against you, Roa and Kitanna. These three voted for him (and Jenny). Now, if the wolves didn't want him dead, none of these four is guilty. So, in a quite polemical way, you say his theories, that you claim to have the greatest of respect for, are wrong. Well, maybe they are, but don't they deserve a little more heed?

[Valier]

Sorry, sorry, sorry!!!!! My computer is now on the frits!!! So hopefully it stays on for the rest of the day! I will be around today and I will be back after I read through the day's posts.

[Kitanna]

I still have my suspicions of Kuru and Roa from yesterday, but I've moved Mac and Jenny up from unknown to slightly suspicious.

I stated yesterday that Kuru helped put Form on people's radars and it helped to influence Glirdan to vote Form on Day 1. And yesterday he voted Mac, but I don't find that overly suspicious simply because he often spoke of Mac as a suspect.

Mac has me worried about his first post today. He has moved Kuru up on his list, while Kuru seems to have moved him down on his (at least for the time being). Eomer suggests a wolf-on-wolf tactic between them. I don't quite agree. I admit it's been awhile since I've really gotten the chance to play with Kuru, but I feel a wolf Kuru would not act in such a way. I realize I could also be terribly wrong about that, but I don't think both Mac and Kuru are wolves, one or the other. I lean toward Kuru more.

As for Jenny, there's something about her... She's reasonable enough, but she's been known to be quite crafty. So far (for the most part) she's flown under the radar (a few others fall into this as well), but what really made me look at her was her vote for Kuru today. This is her second vote for him. If there's any wolf-on-wolf action I'd say Jenny and Kuru might be it. Should Kuru die by lynching and is proven a wolf, Jenny can slip under radars because she was on Kuru from the beginning. If Kuru were to die an innocent I'd say Jenny is more likely an innnocent villager than a fiendish wolf.

Finally there's Roa. She's excellent at covering her tracks, which is why I've kept her on my suspect list all this time. She's one of those players that you can never be sure of until they've died or been dreamt of. I find it hard to pin Roa down with anything truly concrete, though I've tried. There's really nothing for me to say about Roa that has not already been said.

Eomer=
I'm here, and will hopefully have something more to add in a bit. One thought which strikes me is this. The wolves did not want Nogrod dead. He was a loudmouth and was making enemies and attracting suspicion like a flashy enemy-making-suspicion-attracting supercomputer.

Obviously this makes me look good because I voted for him ( ) but I think the point is still worth thinking about. The wolves would likely rely on the rest of the Ordos to round up the trouble-causing Nogrod. The wolves could afford to just stay the hell away from that battle, thinking they would look good in the process.

Just so we're clear, you think no wolves voted for Nogrod? If that is what you're getting at, I find that quite hard to believe. What you say makes sense, the wolves wouldn't really need to worry about Nogrod because he was causing such a stir the village was really noticing him, but one wolf had to be hiding in the votes. Perhaps one of the later voters, such as Roa or Jenny.
It was no surprise when Roa voted for Nogrod, I'd have been shocked if her vote went another way. Jenny though, she seemed more concentrated on Roa, Valier, Mith, and myself during the first half of the day. She did mention Nogrod not doing much to help the seer at the end of the day, but unless I missed a post where she really went after Nogrod, I'm now wondering why she voted him in the end.

Jenny=Noggie, frankly you are worrying me, but not enough to vote for you. I don't think.

The "I don't think" at the end is what worries me.

Jenny=I will not wait longer. I like neither choice presented, but Eomer seems reasonable, and you, Noggie, do not, but whether that mean you are a wolf or not...I can think of only one good way to find out.

++Nogrod

Jenny voted and broke the tie between Eomer and Nogrod. Not counting Jenny's vote for a moment, at this point in the day and voting Nogrod would have died (unless Kuru had come on suddenly and voted for Eomer). I understand why Jenny voted for Nogrod, but she didn't really have too. She could have voted for one of those she was really suspicious of, but she didn't, she voted for Nogrod. Though her vote makes sense in the end, I'm still left wondering.

[JennyHallu]

I just don't like making throwaway votes, and whether or not you or Roa were higher on my suspicion list, what was the point of voting for either of you? I find Kuru's vote for Mac more suspicious than a tiebreaker. At the last second, he votes for someone not even in the running? Why?