Game Thread: TIG XCII - Disaster by the Lake - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boromir88 Game Thread: TIG XCII -... 12-04-2011, 06:06 PM

Boromir88 Day 1 12-05-2011, 06:59 PM

satansaloser2005 My darling! ... 12-05-2011, 07:01 PM

Kitanna I thought I might actually be... 12-05-2011, 07:17 PM

Galadriel55 No!!! Who's going to eat the... 12-05-2011, 07:20 PM

Bom Tombadillo *ahem* Reveals please. I am... 12-05-2011, 07:53 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Here be Shasta, full of... 12-05-2011, 08:38 PM

Inziladun Wolves? Really? Did you lot... 12-05-2011, 10:08 PM

Bom Tombadillo . . . Maybe? ;) Although, why... 12-05-2011, 10:39 PM

Loslote Bom could be either a) an... 12-05-2011, 11:05 PM

Bom Tombadillo *looks confused* Well, of... 12-05-2011, 11:39 PM

Galadriel55 Good-bye already? 12-06-2011, 06:22 AM

A Little Green Cobbler? He doesn't look any... 12-06-2011, 06:59 AM

Kitanna Thanks G55 for listening to... 12-06-2011, 07:14 AM

Nerwen *rings handbell* Oyez! ... 12-06-2011, 07:48 AM

Inziladun I agree. Bom's doing his... 12-06-2011, 08:42 AM

Aganzir So sorry if I am not... 12-06-2011, 09:02 AM

Loslote I don't think I've played... 12-06-2011, 10:10 AM

Nogrod Normal to him or not, jumping... 12-06-2011, 10:40 AM

Nerwen Clearly you haven't seen the... 12-06-2011, 10:59 AM

Bom Tombadillo M'back! A bit ahead of... 12-06-2011, 11:37 AM

Shastanis Althreduin Only suspicious thing I've... 12-06-2011, 12:30 PM

Inziladun Oh, right. Questioning a... 12-06-2011, 12:55 PM

Pitchwife Home from a long day on the... 12-06-2011, 01:25 PM

Bom Tombadillo True, but on most of the... 12-06-2011, 01:34 PM

Inziladun Interesting I am. I'll also... 12-06-2011, 01:45 PM

Pitchwife When you had just commented... 12-06-2011, 01:57 PM

Inziladun Yup. Swing and a miss. That's... 12-06-2011, 02:00 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Um, when it's obviously a... 12-06-2011, 02:25 PM

Kath I'm here (thanks for the... 12-06-2011, 03:16 PM

Kath G55, Kitanna and Bom should... 12-06-2011, 03:35 PM

Pitchwife Wait a sec! The post by... 12-06-2011, 04:08 PM

Bom Tombadillo Random for my part. Wolflote... 12-06-2011, 04:22 PM

Shastanis Althreduin "Still" suspicious?... 12-06-2011, 04:32 PM

Bom Tombadillo And is there any problem with... 12-06-2011, 04:52 PM

Nogrod So I'm back and have read the... 12-06-2011, 04:58 PM

Nogrod Okay. My initial reason to... 12-06-2011, 05:18 PM

Nogrod I could buy this... 12-06-2011, 05:39 PM

Inziladun Ok, let's do this: ++Nog ... 12-06-2011, 05:47 PM

A Little Green Nah. Well past bed-time for... 12-06-2011, 05:51 PM

Nogrod Pitch & Greenie: you know... 12-06-2011, 05:56 PM

Aganzir She said he was reading too... 12-06-2011, 06:11 PM

Pitchwife And sometimes good reasons to... 12-06-2011, 06:36 PM

Nogrod ...unless they have been... 12-06-2011, 06:46 PM

Pitchwife And I suppose they can also... 12-06-2011, 06:54 PM

Nogrod We'll discuss this after the... 12-06-2011, 07:00 PM

Boromir88 Dead Line. No More posting... 12-06-2011, 07:01 PM

Boromir88 "Nogrod's reaching." Greenie... 12-06-2011, 07:05 PM

Boromir88 The wolves debated into the... 12-07-2011, 06:56 PM

Kitanna Kath? She only had two posts.... 12-07-2011, 08:15 PM

Galadriel55 My thoughts exactly. If you... 12-07-2011, 08:53 PM

Galadriel55 Haha. So much for that. ... 12-07-2011, 09:04 PM

Kitanna Nogrod: # 20: Makes a point... 12-07-2011, 08:59 PM

Nerwen *rings handbell* Hear ye,... 12-07-2011, 09:22 PM

Loslote Just a note: I don't know how... 12-07-2011, 10:06 PM

Nerwen Well, there's barely such a... 12-07-2011, 10:10 PM

Bom Tombadillo Okays, well it's late and I'm... 12-07-2011, 11:10 PM

Aganzir Btw Nog we're pathetic. Guess... 12-06-2011, 07:01 PM

Nogrod Right... or should one... 12-08-2011, 04:50 AM

A Little Green Err - what's the difference?... 12-08-2011, 11:06 AM

Shastanis Althreduin Somebody didn't like their... 12-08-2011, 11:54 AM

Bom Tombadillo Erg. I was going to post an... 12-08-2011, 12:41 PM

Pitchwife Why Kath, indeed? In her big... 12-08-2011, 02:12 PM

A Little Green All his talk of being the... 12-06-2011, 05:26 PM

A Little Green Nog, you're reaching. Lottie... 12-06-2011, 05:29 PM

Inziladun Hmm. I may have to vote here... 12-06-2011, 05:33 PM

Pitchwife Not the first three, but the... 12-06-2011, 05:59 PM

Nogrod I was not reaching with... 12-06-2011, 06:12 PM

Aganzir Out of the two, Greenie looks... 12-06-2011, 06:18 PM

Aganzir Gal - Nerwen Kath - Inzil... 12-06-2011, 06:20 PM

Loslote I am not especially happy... 12-06-2011, 06:29 PM

Aganzir Flip-flopping 12-06-2011, 06:29 PM

Aganzir Lottie said behaving... 12-06-2011, 06:34 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Fair enough, but in doing so... 12-06-2011, 06:41 PM

Aganzir If that's the price I have to... 12-06-2011, 06:47 PM

Aganzir And risk getting dreamed?... 12-06-2011, 06:50 PM

Aganzir Gal - Nerwen Kath - Inzil... 12-06-2011, 06:54 PM

Nogrod What was the rule on tied... 12-06-2011, 06:52 PM

Boromir88 Tied vote. The person who... 12-06-2011, 06:53 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Last person to get the tying... 12-06-2011, 06:53 PM

satansaloser2005 There once was a wee lass... 12-08-2011, 12:32 AM

Aganzir Here and how dare you kill my... 12-08-2011, 02:06 PM

A Little Green Now who's reading too much?... 12-08-2011, 02:15 PM

A Little Green Aganzir - Needs to stop... 12-08-2011, 02:35 PM

A Little Green I dunno - false traces are... 12-08-2011, 02:51 PM

A Little Green Also - where is everyone?... 12-08-2011, 02:52 PM

Nogrod Finally here and reading...... 12-08-2011, 03:20 PM

Nogrod Okay. Galadriel says I'm... 12-08-2011, 03:56 PM

A Little Green You do annoy me, dear. I'm... 12-08-2011, 04:07 PM

Shastanis Althreduin On Aganzir, Day 1 #18 - No... 12-08-2011, 04:09 PM

Nogrod If there is nothing else... 12-08-2011, 04:16 PM

A Little Green Take it down a notch, please.... 12-08-2011, 04:42 PM

Nogrod Okay. Looking at yesterDay's... 12-08-2011, 04:42 PM

A Little Green Yeah, good to know the... 12-08-2011, 04:48 PM

Kitanna I've had the Chance to skim... 12-08-2011, 04:54 PM

A Little Green Hope everything's all right!... 12-08-2011, 05:00 PM

Pitchwife Dang! I actually considered... 12-08-2011, 05:08 PM

Nogrod And to me they look very... 12-08-2011, 05:06 PM

Nogrod Btw. Agan is the cobbler. 12-08-2011, 05:09 PM

Nogrod Uh-oh... Kit. Sad to hear... 12-08-2011, 05:16 PM

Pitchwife What? I mean, she might be... 12-08-2011, 05:21 PM

Nogrod Sally 2 posts. Promised to be... 12-08-2011, 05:28 PM

Pitchwife This row between Agan and... 12-08-2011, 05:34 PM

Shastanis Althreduin I knew it! 12-08-2011, 05:25 PM

A Little Green OK, I think we're indeed... 12-08-2011, 05:26 PM

A Little Green She's certainly taking pains... 12-08-2011, 05:28 PM

Nogrod Well, it does merit lynching... 12-08-2011, 05:33 PM

A Little Green Pitch is so logical and... 12-08-2011, 05:36 PM

A Little Green Bleh. Really need to go to... 12-08-2011, 05:38 PM

Pitchwife That depends which side... 12-08-2011, 05:48 PM

Galadriel55 Back and reading. 12-08-2011, 05:50 PM

Loslote So I'm afraid I can only pop... 12-08-2011, 05:53 PM

Shastanis Althreduin -Raises hand, unsurprisingly- 12-08-2011, 06:02 PM

Loslote Alright, I've got to go read... 12-08-2011, 06:09 PM

Nogrod I'll go with it then as it... 12-08-2011, 06:15 PM

satansaloser2005 So let me get this... 12-08-2011, 06:53 PM

Boromir88 Dead line. Stop posting. ... 12-08-2011, 07:01 PM

Boromir88 Agan be the lynch and she was... 12-08-2011, 07:06 PM

Boromir88 Dawn came again for most of... 12-09-2011, 07:00 PM

Galadriel55 Noooo!!! :( What has our... 12-09-2011, 07:05 PM

satansaloser2005 Galadriel, please answer a... 12-09-2011, 07:15 PM

Galadriel55 What kind of question is... 12-09-2011, 07:38 PM

Galadriel55 Another thing about Nog 12-09-2011, 07:52 PM

satansaloser2005 "Let me tell you what's been... 12-09-2011, 07:58 PM

Nerwen I don't know, Sally– I'd say... 12-09-2011, 08:09 PM

satansaloser2005 Kill me, and I can almost... 12-09-2011, 08:16 PM

Bom Tombadillo Aaand that would be you... 12-09-2011, 08:30 PM

satansaloser2005 Well, go on then. Be ye ordo... 12-09-2011, 08:31 PM

Bom Tombadillo Sheesh, rushing much? :p My... 12-09-2011, 08:36 PM

Galadriel55 :rolleyes: How could I forget... 12-09-2011, 08:54 PM

Galadriel55 Or you're missing something... 12-09-2011, 08:57 PM

satansaloser2005 I should have broken the... 12-09-2011, 09:01 PM

satansaloser2005 So....how about them... 12-10-2011, 08:58 AM

Nerwen Pitch, Day One. #36.... 12-09-2011, 09:06 PM

Nerwen Oh, it's obvious enough what... 12-09-2011, 09:25 PM

satansaloser2005 Mostly because I miscounted. ... 12-09-2011, 09:29 PM

Galadriel55 You know what, sally? I trust... 12-09-2011, 09:51 PM

Galadriel55 But there's 9 players, not 8.... 12-09-2011, 09:35 PM

satansaloser2005 See? I did it again. ... 12-09-2011, 09:38 PM

Nerwen Eh? I didn't actually say I... 12-09-2011, 10:01 PM

Galadriel55 (underlining mine) I smell... 12-09-2011, 10:16 PM

Nerwen Yes, that is what I meant. I... 12-09-2011, 10:53 PM

Nerwen And why "burned... 12-09-2011, 10:54 PM

A Little Green Er - what? This almost makes... 12-10-2011, 02:56 AM

Kitanna Color me stupid, I completely... 12-10-2011, 06:42 AM

Galadriel55 Burned potatoes. Better? I... 12-10-2011, 07:58 AM

Nerwen Meaning? Um... I think... 12-10-2011, 08:28 AM

Nerwen Wait a minute– I didn't... 12-10-2011, 08:37 AM

Nerwen Anyway, here it is– Pitch,... 12-10-2011, 09:39 AM

satansaloser2005 Explanation for why Sally... 12-10-2011, 08:47 AM

satansaloser2005 If we're in doubt about... 12-10-2011, 08:48 AM

Nerwen But didn't you know there... 12-10-2011, 08:51 AM

Galadriel55 #196 - sally reveals. #209... 12-10-2011, 08:54 AM

satansaloser2005 Yeah. After I'd made the... 12-10-2011, 08:56 AM

Nerwen Unless this is a *very*... 12-10-2011, 09:04 AM

Nerwen Mmn– except that you list... 12-10-2011, 09:16 AM

Loslote Alright, so...Sally's the... 12-10-2011, 09:47 AM

Nerwen I don't know which game you... 12-10-2011, 09:55 AM

Loslote Normally I'd agree with you... 12-10-2011, 10:17 AM

satansaloser2005 That post was my reveal,... 12-10-2011, 10:29 AM

Loslote Because I haven't done a list... 12-10-2011, 10:42 AM

Nerwen Yes, but you hadn't revealed... 12-10-2011, 11:24 AM

Nerwen Oh, and Bom. Maybe he's the... 12-10-2011, 11:29 AM

Nerwen Anyway– ++Nogrod That's... 12-10-2011, 11:36 AM

Galadriel55 Exactly what I said. Kit is... 12-10-2011, 08:51 AM

Nerwen Hear ye, hear ye! ... 12-10-2011, 07:35 AM

Nerwen Mind you– According to TEH... 12-10-2011, 07:50 AM

Kitanna This is a possibility, but... 12-10-2011, 11:40 AM

Nogrod A quick comment... We... 12-10-2011, 12:15 PM

Boromir88 Bah hum bug. Jealousy. For... 12-10-2011, 12:38 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Well, obviously I was wrong... 12-10-2011, 12:48 PM

Kitanna Bom: Post 1 & 2: Not much.... 12-10-2011, 02:06 PM

Galadriel55 But if you look at her list,... 12-10-2011, 02:30 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Regarding whether or not the... 12-10-2011, 02:52 PM

Loslote If you look at the post, that... 12-10-2011, 04:10 PM

Kitanna Lottie, I reread your post.... 12-10-2011, 05:32 PM

satansaloser2005 I slept through a good... 12-10-2011, 05:39 PM

Kitanna ++ Bom I need to vote now... 12-10-2011, 05:47 PM

satansaloser2005 Cake fixes everything. ... 12-10-2011, 05:48 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Mmm. Kit looks opportunistic... 12-10-2011, 06:02 PM

Loslote I don't like this Bomwagon... 12-10-2011, 06:07 PM

satansaloser2005 I'll be happy to lynch any of... 12-10-2011, 06:15 PM

A Little Green Bom, is it? Not the worst... 12-10-2011, 06:38 PM

satansaloser2005 I'm still wondering whether... 12-10-2011, 06:39 PM

Bom Tombadillo A quick trip to the store... 12-10-2011, 06:48 PM

satansaloser2005 If you have something to say,... 12-10-2011, 06:50 PM

Loslote This looks a lot more like... 12-10-2011, 06:55 PM

Loslote I'd prefer Nog, myself. I'm... 12-10-2011, 06:41 PM

A Little Green And you don't think that risk... 12-10-2011, 06:41 PM

satansaloser2005 There's that risk with... 12-10-2011, 06:43 PM

A Little Green Tally, anyone? Don't have... 12-10-2011, 06:43 PM

A Little Green Got to go! ++Bom Just... 12-10-2011, 06:45 PM

Loslote ++Nog Because I do not... 12-10-2011, 06:49 PM

Boromir88 I believe tally is... ... 12-10-2011, 06:51 PM

Nogrod You're doing a mistake... 12-10-2011, 06:52 PM

Nogrod Let's hope I was wrong... 12-10-2011, 06:54 PM

satansaloser2005 Oh, bother. I was just about... 12-10-2011, 06:55 PM

satansaloser2005 So Bom's dead no matter what,... 12-10-2011, 06:57 PM

Boromir88 Looks like it 12-10-2011, 06:57 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Love you too, dear. In... 12-10-2011, 06:58 PM

satansaloser2005 Well, see, I'd been hunting... 12-10-2011, 06:59 PM

satansaloser2005 For the record.... ... 12-10-2011, 07:00 PM

satansaloser2005 Please note: This should have... 12-11-2011, 08:06 PM

Boromir88 Deadline. No more posting. ... 12-10-2011, 07:01 PM

Boromir88 It was night and the wolves... 12-11-2011, 07:00 PM

satansaloser2005 Details. Now. EDIT: Of... 12-11-2011, 07:01 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Gwaihir owes me a favor, so I... 12-11-2011, 07:06 PM

satansaloser2005 There's my sweet boy. I'm so... 12-11-2011, 07:09 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Yeah, well, what can I say,... 12-11-2011, 07:17 PM

satansaloser2005 Since no one sees fit to join... 12-11-2011, 07:32 PM

satansaloser2005 And now I see that my sweet... 12-11-2011, 07:47 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Oh, I'm still here, just... 12-11-2011, 07:48 PM

satansaloser2005 So, who have you protected... 12-11-2011, 07:58 PM

Shastanis Althreduin My shining star, early on - I... 12-11-2011, 10:05 PM

Nerwen Hear ye, hear ye! Be ye... 12-11-2011, 10:49 PM

Galadriel55 I wanted to make this more... 12-11-2011, 11:47 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Silly. That's because now... 12-12-2011, 12:34 AM

Shastanis Althreduin Well, there's a point in at... 12-12-2011, 12:39 AM

Kitanna If I understand this you... 12-12-2011, 07:00 AM

Nerwen Oh no, my treasure, clearly... 12-12-2011, 01:17 AM

Nerwen And toMorrow, and the Day... 12-12-2011, 02:56 AM

Galadriel55 Another thing is that the... 12-12-2011, 06:27 AM

Nogrod Well, well... this is... 12-12-2011, 06:49 AM

Kitanna More importantly, how was... 12-12-2011, 07:04 AM

Loslote Well, well, well. Nerwen,... 12-12-2011, 07:14 AM

Shastanis Althreduin Partially that, partially it... 12-12-2011, 07:27 AM

Shastanis Althreduin Or the Seer says so. ;) 12-12-2011, 07:28 AM

Kitanna Sally said Nerwen was guilty... 12-12-2011, 07:36 AM

More replies below current depth...

Nogrod I would have voted him over... 12-10-2011, 06:59 PM

Nogrod This sudden interest in... 12-10-2011, 06:21 PM

Nogrod Okay. Shasta, Kit and... 12-10-2011, 06:35 PM

Galadriel55 *Shoves a bucketful of apples... 12-10-2011, 06:38 PM

Kitanna Day 2 G55 Post 1: Pitch is... 12-10-2011, 12:22 PM

Loslote Maybe it is risky, but I've... 12-10-2011, 04:21 PM

Shastanis Althreduin ++Bom With two hours to go... 12-10-2011, 05:05 PM

Kitanna Judging by this and your ... 12-09-2011, 08:45 PM

satansaloser2005 “Lynches happen. Every day –... 12-09-2011, 08:55 PM

Pitchwife I'd rather hear Agan reply to... 12-08-2011, 06:17 PM

Aganzir So sorry it took me so long... 12-08-2011, 06:27 PM

Pitchwife You know, I have such a hard... 12-08-2011, 05:55 PM

Nogrod So the people playing (other... 12-08-2011, 05:41 PM

Nogrod Nine votes (possibly) to... 12-08-2011, 06:06 PM

Pitchwife Of course I think like I say,... 12-08-2011, 04:23 PM

Pitchwife Can the Seer even see the... 12-08-2011, 04:48 PM

Aganzir I didn't say you were... 12-08-2011, 05:04 PM

Galadriel55 Skimming only - no time to... 12-08-2011, 06:45 PM

Aganzir How about Shasta because he'd... 12-08-2011, 06:50 PM

Aganzir I know. It's like... I didn't... 12-08-2011, 06:51 PM

Aganzir Pitch who are you planning to... 12-08-2011, 06:52 PM

satansaloser2005 Convince me not to vote for... 12-08-2011, 06:54 PM

Aganzir I am innocent. There. 12-08-2011, 06:54 PM

Aganzir And if you decide to kill me,... 12-08-2011, 06:57 PM

satansaloser2005 ++Nog EDIT: X'd. Oh... 12-08-2011, 06:58 PM

Shastanis Althreduin ++Aganzir 12-08-2011, 06:59 PM

Aganzir Whoops. I totally wasn't... 12-08-2011, 07:00 PM

Pitchwife <- Das ist kein wolf. ... 12-08-2011, 06:57 PM

Aganzir Go ahead then. Nogrod spoke a... 12-08-2011, 06:59 PM

Aganzir As a rule, I don't think so... 12-08-2011, 03:35 PM

A Little Green Fair enough. 12-08-2011, 03:45 PM

Aganzir Oh and just something minor... 12-08-2011, 03:53 PM

Pitchwife I'm flipflopping about Kit at... 12-08-2011, 04:04 PM

Aganzir Kit - Green Green - Nog... 12-08-2011, 06:30 PM

Aganzir Oh and Pitch guess what I'm... 12-08-2011, 06:40 PM

Aganzir And Boro what's your modkill... 12-08-2011, 06:42 PM

Aganzir I am worried Nog is the... 12-08-2011, 06:44 PM

Galadriel55 Here, cursing the traffic...... 12-08-2011, 06:54 PM

satansaloser2005 Boo. 12-08-2011, 06:56 PM

Galadriel55 ++Nog Edit: xed with a lot 12-08-2011, 06:59 PM

satansaloser2005 He is not yet dead (and I... 12-08-2011, 06:49 PM

Boromir88 I really hadn't considered it... 12-08-2011, 06:56 PM

Pitchwife Which is what you did. ... 12-08-2011, 06:48 PM

Loslote ++Nog Because I don't... 12-06-2011, 06:52 PM

Nogrod Show me a strong argument... 12-06-2011, 06:55 PM

Aganzir Ahaha Pitch gets a free pass... 12-06-2011, 06:57 PM

Kitanna A strong argument existed... 12-06-2011, 06:57 PM

Shastanis Althreduin I don't see how you can say... 12-06-2011, 06:52 PM

Pitchwife Time for me to count my... 12-06-2011, 06:52 PM

Bom Tombadillo ARGH no time. Everybody's... 12-06-2011, 07:00 PM

Shastanis Althreduin From the phone - I don't know... 12-06-2011, 06:24 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Clarification - Agan in... 12-06-2011, 06:27 PM

Bom Tombadillo Even after rereading the... 12-06-2011, 06:37 PM

Nogrod Darn deadline. I should go to... 12-06-2011, 06:30 PM

Loslote No, this isn't a case of... 12-06-2011, 06:39 PM

Loslote To look like the cobbler,... 12-06-2011, 06:43 PM

Kitanna I did say I wasn't going to... 12-06-2011, 06:06 PM

Kitanna I bet she says the same thing... 12-06-2011, 06:53 PM

Kitanna I desperately want to read... 12-06-2011, 06:54 PM

Nogrod ...by putting words into her... 12-06-2011, 06:57 PM

Aganzir ++Inzil 12-06-2011, 06:59 PM

Nogrod ++ Inziladun 12-06-2011, 06:59 PM

Aganzir And now to bed, Noggins! ;) 12-06-2011, 07:00 PM

Kitanna Isn't twisting words and... 12-06-2011, 07:00 PM

Pitchwife If you have no points of your... 12-06-2011, 05:11 PM

Aganzir Ditto. You should have... 12-06-2011, 05:32 PM

Loslote Usually I don't think of... 12-06-2011, 06:33 PM

Aganzir And why would a wolf do that? 12-06-2011, 06:35 PM

Nogrod I just checked it: Greenie... 12-06-2011, 06:44 PM

Loslote I haven't played a game in... 12-06-2011, 03:20 PM

Pitchwife Not only at work but... 12-06-2011, 03:37 PM

Loslote I am inclined to agree with... 12-06-2011, 03:42 PM

Shastanis Althreduin Of course I sound sneaky. I'm... 12-06-2011, 03:45 PM

Loslote I've got to go (I have a... 12-06-2011, 04:04 PM

Inziladun Ah, it's nice to feel the... 12-06-2011, 04:58 PM

Nogrod Okay. I was thinking of... 12-06-2011, 12:51 PM

Bom Tombadillo Hmmn. People seem to be... 12-06-2011, 01:06 PM

Loslote Really? Because that is what... 12-06-2011, 06:18 PM

Kitanna I was hoping for more... 12-06-2011, 06:21 AM

Galadriel55 What I said and why I said it: 12-12-2011, 05:42 PM