Saruman for or against Sauron? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Guest Saruman for or against Sauron? 07-25-2005, 11:26 AM

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07-27-2005, 05:36 AM

#18

Kath

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Only possession and mastery. I don't recall seeing anywhere an implication that Saruman could have mastered the Ring. I only remember Gandalf as being possibly able to do it.

But if Saruman was originally higher in the Order than Gandalf then surely he should have had an equal if not higher chance of being able to master the Ring?

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