Where did Gandalf go in FotR? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

01-31-2003, 06:04 AM

You know when Gandalf goes to read up on the ring? where all the monks and stuff where. You see, i learnt this last week reading FotR... but it didn't stick in my memory and i have forgotten... so any assistance,

01-31-2003, 06:52 AM

I believe he went to Gondor, if I remember correctly.

Elanor · 01-31-2003, 08:37 AM

Yes, it was definitely the archives of Minas Tirith.

Grimbold · 01-31-2003, 08:49 AM

...which is naturally where the Account of Isildur was kept for thousands of years, although it didn't look to me like the librarian was doing a very good job of keeping things organized! The man with the torch who showed Gandalf the stone chamber with the records acted like it was a garbage heap and nobody had been there for decades! You'd think people would be more interested in the past.

Carrûn · 01-31-2003, 09:44 AM

This might be a stretch but I believe the attitude of the librarian (and the Steward in the books) was one more of "we've already read everything and you're beginning to annoy us with your frequent requests to go through our old papers."

Grimbold · 01-31-2003, 10:44 AM

Yes, people certainly managed to get sick of Gandalf. (Stormcrow!) Too bad he got so little respect while he was the Grey. He certainly commanded some respect when he returned as the White in Edoras.

HCIsland · 01-31-2003, 12:00 PM

In the book, of course, he also hunts and then interegates Gollum which takes him to Mirkwood. The film Gandalf must do the same thing even though it isn't shown as he speaks of looking for the creature Gollum to Frodo upon his return. We have to assume he found him as he knows his story and that he was captured and tortured in Mordor.The animated map that accompanies the special edition (which I think is really cool) only shows him going to Minas Tirith but his actual journey in the film must be all over hell's half-acre. I guess they didn't show this as it would have simply been too much, though it is interesting to note that the map does have him going to Edoras first, upon escaping Isengard. I guess that was something for the book readers.H.C.

Gorwingel · 01-31-2003, 02:17 PM

That was one part of FOTR that they took a large chunk out, and if you did not read the book you really don't know where he went. Even though in the book, I don't think we follow Gandalf to Gondor, I think he tells Frodo about it after he has been there.[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Gorwingel ]

HCIsland · 01-31-2003, 02:26 PM

I don't believe we ever follow Gandalf in the books. Everything we learn about Gandalf on his own is after he returns and he's describing it.H.C.

01-31-2003, 06:04 AM	#1
Nespis Guest Posts: n/a	Where did Gandalf go in FotR? You know when Gandalf goes to read up on the ring? where all the monks and stuff where.<BR>You see, i learnt this last week reading FotR... but it didn't stick in my memory and i have forgotten... so any assistance,

01-31-2003, 08:37 AM	#3
Elanor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: my own corner of the Shire Posts: 316	Yes, it was definitely the archives of Minas Tirith. __________________ "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Henny Youngman (1906 - )

01-31-2003, 08:49 AM	#4
Grimbold Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenor Posts: 88	...which is naturally where the Account of Isildur was kept for thousands of years, although it didn't look to me like the librarian was doing a very good job of keeping things organized! The man with the torch who showed Gandalf the stone chamber with the records acted like it was a garbage heap and nobody had been there for decades! You'd think people would be more interested in the past. __________________ Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains. Like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the west. Behind the hills, into shadow. How did it come to this?

01-31-2003, 09:44 AM	#5
Carrûn Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind you, counting to 3 Posts: 234	This might be a stretch but I believe the attitude of the librarian (and the Steward in the books) was one more of "we've already read everything and you're beginning to annoy us with your frequent requests to go through our old papers." __________________ "Dic, hospes, Spartae, nos te hic vidisse iacentes dum sanctis patriae legibus obsequimur."

01-31-2003, 10:44 AM	#6
Grimbold Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenor Posts: 88	Yes, people certainly managed to get sick of Gandalf. (Stormcrow!) Too bad he got so little respect while he was the Grey. He certainly commanded some respect when he returned as the White in Edoras. __________________ Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains. Like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the west. Behind the hills, into shadow. How did it come to this?

01-31-2003, 06:52 AM	#2
leigh1 Guest Posts: n/a	I believe he went to Gondor, if I remember correctly.

01-31-2003, 12:00 PM	#7
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	In the book, of course, he also hunts and then interegates Gollum which takes him to Mirkwood. The film Gandalf must do the same thing even though it isn't shown as he speaks of looking for the creature Gollum to Frodo upon his return. We have to assume he found him as he knows his story and that he was captured and tortured in Mordor.<P>The animated map that accompanies the special edition (which I think is really cool) only shows him going to Minas Tirith but his actual journey in the film must be all over hell's half-acre. I guess they didn't show this as it would have simply been too much, though it is interesting to note that the map does have him going to Edoras first, upon escaping Isengard. I guess that was something for the book readers.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

01-31-2003, 02:17 PM	#8
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	That was one part of FOTR that they took a large chunk out, and if you did not read the book you really don't know where he went. Even though in the book, I don't think we follow Gandalf to Gondor, I think he tells Frodo about it after he has been there.<p>[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Gorwingel ] __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

01-31-2003, 02:26 PM	#9
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I don't believe we ever follow Gandalf in the books. Everything we learn about Gandalf on his own is after he returns and he's describing it.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor