Music related to LotR (Howard Shore's score, Johann DeMeij, etc.) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

NinjaFerret · 04-18-2002, 04:42 PM

I just wanted to know what everyone thought of the music. Scores and soundtracks sometimes can make or break a movie. I thought Shore did a wonderful job; his score was enough to enhance but not take over the movie. It was subtle and forceful at the same time. On the other hand, Enya was overplayed...she contributed, but eh. She could have been there, didn't have to be. What's with that track "Lothlorien" on the cd??? It makes me shudder. It's so raw in comparison w/ what Shore did, and Lothlorien is supposed to be one of the most polished intricate places. For anyone who is familiar w/ Johann De Meij's compositions, there are similar themes w/ Shore. If you listen to De Meij's theme for the hobbits, it is the same kind of regularity; there is a measured precision of beats that gives a feeling of the of their simple life. Love his stuff. We played the "Gandalf" movement of De Meij's work. It's great to listen to and even more exciting to play. Want to know what you all think.May your luck exceed the stench of your oxters.

Tigerlily Gamgee · 04-18-2002, 05:04 PM

Is the other composer you list the one who wrote The Lord of the Rings Symphony? I keep trying to listen to that on Amazon, but the link won't work for me. Perhaps I shall go to Border's and listen to it.As discussed in previous topics on this board... I really thought that Howard Shore did an excellent job in capturing the books - especially with the themes for the Hobbits, the Ringwraiths and the Fellowship. I agree that the Lothlorien track was a bit creepy (which probably contributes to so many people unfamiliar with the books thinking that Galadriel is evil). It definitley created a mood, though. A sort of mystifying mood.And, if you're interested (I have mentioned this before in the past)... check out a CD called "Music Inspired by Middle Earth, by David Arkenstone" - I find that the Middle Earth Orchestra, as they call themselves, really captured the moods of their pieces. I especially love the tracks titled "Arwen and Aragorn" and "The Gray Havens". Check it out, it's pretty good!

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Vardadurwen · 05-19-2002, 03:39 PM

I really thought that Howard Shore's music was great. Especially at the end of "Treason of Isengard" where the choir is singing and it gets soo big and powerful. I think he really profiled everything well in his music. You can get such a great pictures in your head when you listen to it (seeing the movie helps too lol ) To me Lothlorien was perfect. I always thought it was such a magical, but at the same time creepy place! So Lothlorien really worked for me. I played "Gandalf" from Johan de Meij's Symphony arranged for wind band (ya i know *shudder*). But it was one of my favorite pieces this year. I haven't heard any of the other movements to the Symphony, but I think i'll buy the CD. I've also heard of "Music Inspired by Middle Earth". Can you find it anywhere (HMV, A&B Sound)?

piosenniel · 05-20-2002, 12:09 AM

I found the score by Howard Shore to be intensely satisfying & intrinsic to the quality of the movie.! It deepened the scenes and augmented the action. The music was almost like an additional character added to round out the composition of the screenplay.[ May 20, 2002: Message edited by: piosenniel ]

Veritas · 05-20-2002, 01:06 AM

Well, when I hear the music, I see the movie in front of me. I think that's nice work of Howard Shore! Lothlorien is the best one I think. Only thing is, in the books Galadriel is 'from the beginning' good, but in the movie, it's a bit doubtfully wether she is good or not. Th music is also a bit doubtful (I don't know how to say it different in English).

piosenniel · 05-20-2002, 01:09 AM

Yes, just so - the music brings the scenes from the movie up vividly to me!

avarrogion · 05-20-2002, 05:07 AM

The score done Howard Shore was done with perfection evry single sound blended with the scenes. For example the scene where Gandalf was falling the song played was so sad and touching or what about the starting hobbiton scene the music is so joyfull. Howard Shore blended music with emotions and feelings and the result produce was so melodic!!

Nufaciel · 05-20-2002, 07:01 AM

I loved the music, especially the Lothlorien piece. I thought it was perfect. The music was amazing, and I hope he does just as good a job on the next two movies.

Arwen Imladris · 05-20-2002, 11:03 AM

Yes, I loved the music. Question: Is the prononciation of the elvish words correct?

gollum*elf*pup · 05-20-2002, 11:08 AM

it probably is, you just cant tell cause they're singing it. i can;t wait to hear the music for the next two!

05-20-2002, 11:12 AM

I love the soundtrack even if in dreams makes me cry!!!!

Nufaciel · 05-20-2002, 11:34 AM

Yeah, as far as I've noticed, the Elvish is correct on the songs. It's very well done.

avarrogion · 05-21-2002, 02:56 AM

Well i can`t wait for the next two sountracks as i know i will be lost in the melodic rythm of fantasy and classical piece!!

04-18-2002, 04:42 PM	#1
NinjaFerret Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 31	Music related to LotR (Howard Shore's score, Johann DeMeij, etc.) I just wanted to know what everyone thought of the music. Scores and soundtracks sometimes can make or break a movie. I thought Shore did a wonderful job; his score was enough to enhance but not take over the movie. It was subtle and forceful at the same time. <P>On the other hand, Enya was overplayed...she contributed, but eh. She could have been there, didn't have to be. What's with that track "Lothlorien" on the cd??? It makes me shudder. It's so raw in comparison w/ what Shore did, and Lothlorien is supposed to be one of the most polished intricate places. <P>For anyone who is familiar w/ Johann De Meij's compositions, there are similar themes w/ Shore. If you listen to De Meij's theme for the hobbits, it is the same kind of regularity; there is a measured precision of beats that gives a feeling of the of their simple life. Love his stuff. We played the "Gandalf" movement of De Meij's work. It's great to listen to and even more exciting to play. <P>Want to know what you all think.<P>May your luck exceed the stench of your oxters. __________________ "An epitaph is a belated advertisement for a line of goods that have been permanently discontinued." - Irvin S. Cobb

04-18-2002, 05:04 PM	#2
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	Is the other composer you list the one who wrote The Lord of the Rings Symphony? I keep trying to listen to that on Amazon, but the link won't work for me. Perhaps I shall go to Border's and listen to it.<P>As discussed in previous topics on this board... I really thought that Howard Shore did an excellent job in capturing the books - especially with the themes for the Hobbits, the Ringwraiths and the Fellowship. I agree that the Lothlorien track was a bit creepy (which probably contributes to so many people unfamiliar with the books thinking that Galadriel is evil). It definitley created a mood, though. A sort of mystifying mood.<P>And, if you're interested (I have mentioned this before in the past)... check out a CD called "Music Inspired by Middle Earth, by David Arkenstone" - I find that the Middle Earth Orchestra, as they call themselves, really captured the moods of their pieces. I especially love the tracks titled "Arwen and Aragorn" and "The Gray Havens". Check it out, it's pretty good! __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

04-18-2002, 05:05 PM	#3
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	PS - Welcome to the Downs! __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

05-19-2002, 03:39 PM	#4
Vardadurwen Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 102	I really thought that Howard Shore's music was great. Especially at the end of "Treason of Isengard" where the choir is singing and it gets soo big and powerful.<BR> I think he really profiled everything well in his music. You can get such a great pictures in your head when you listen to it (seeing the movie helps too lol )<BR> To me Lothlorien was perfect. I always thought it was such a magical, but at the same time creepy place! So Lothlorien really worked for me.<BR> I played "Gandalf" from Johan de Meij's Symphony arranged for wind band (ya i know shudder). But it was one of my favorite pieces this year. I haven't heard any of the other movements to the Symphony, but I think i'll buy the CD.<BR> I've also heard of "Music Inspired by Middle Earth". Can you find it anywhere (HMV, A&B Sound)? __________________ 'In this phial,' she said, 'is caught the light of Earendil's star....May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out...' - Galadriel 'Now there's an eye-opener and no mistake!' - Samwise Gamgee

05-20-2002, 12:09 AM	#5
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	I found the score by Howard Shore to be intensely satisfying & intrinsic to the quality of the movie.! It deepened the scenes and augmented the action. The music was almost like an additional character added to round out the composition of the screenplay.<p>[ May 20, 2002: Message edited by: piosenniel ] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

05-20-2002, 01:06 AM	#6
Veritas Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 131	Well, when I hear the music, I see the movie in front of me. I think that's nice work of Howard Shore! Lothlorien is the best one I think.<BR>Only thing is, in the books Galadriel is 'from the beginning' good, but in the movie, it's a bit doubtfully wether she is good or not. Th music is also a bit doubtful (I don't know how to say it different in English). __________________ With the birds I'll share this lonely view. ~Red Hot Chili Peppers, Scar Tisue~ Laurëfin

05-20-2002, 01:09 AM	#7
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Yes, just so - the music brings the scenes from the movie up vividly to me! __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

05-20-2002, 05:07 AM	#8
avarrogion Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 120	The score done Howard Shore was done with perfection evry single sound blended with the scenes.<BR>For example the scene where Gandalf was falling the song played was so sad and touching or what about the starting hobbiton scene the music is so joyfull.<BR>Howard Shore blended music with emotions and feelings and the result produce was so melodic!! __________________ I might have been a slasher but I never killed children, only real men!...A mistake cannot make right by another mistake... ~Kenshin Himura~

05-20-2002, 07:01 AM	#9
Nufaciel Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 133	I loved the music, especially the Lothlorien piece. I thought it was perfect. The music was amazing, and I hope he does just as good a job on the next two movies. __________________ Member of Pervy Elf Fanciers Anonymous...I need professional help.

05-20-2002, 11:03 AM	#10
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Yes, I loved the music. Question: Is the prononciation of the elvish words correct? __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

05-20-2002, 11:08 AM	#11
gollumelfpup Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: big...scary...castle... Posts: 277	it probably is, you just cant tell cause they're singing it. i can;t wait to hear the music for the next two! __________________ ~elfpup~ PI's evil family dog!!! I have found the chicken who is not a chicken!

05-20-2002, 11:12 AM	#12
WillowStarmist Guest Posts: n/a	I love the soundtrack even if in dreams makes me cry!!!!

05-20-2002, 11:34 AM	#13
Nufaciel Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 133	Yeah, as far as I've noticed, the Elvish is correct on the songs. It's very well done. __________________ Member of Pervy Elf Fanciers Anonymous...I need professional help.

05-21-2002, 02:56 AM	#14
avarrogion Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 120	Well i can`t wait for the next two sountracks as i know i will be lost in the melodic rythm of fantasy and classical piece!! __________________ I might have been a slasher but I never killed children, only real men!...A mistake cannot make right by another mistake... ~Kenshin Himura~