Gollum - no Smeagol? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Maeglin · 01-18-2002, 12:14 PM

Am I wrong or did Gandalf say that Gollum's name was Gollum before he got the ring? He said something like that a person called Gollum took it. Wich isnt right when his name was Smeagol. Im not childich but im not sure im right.

Dûrkriswen · 01-18-2002, 04:20 PM

His original name was Smeagol, but people began calling him Gollum because of the *gollum* noises he would make in his throat. (he began making these noises after he got the ring, he made these noises out of self pity for himself because everyone began hating him, I asume).

Nazgûl Queen · 01-19-2002, 12:04 AM

<center>I know what you mean, maeglin.Instead of explaining how Smeagol got the ring (after murdering his friend deagol) and then it turned him into the loathsome gollum, gandalf just said that gollum got the ring - he was never shown as hobbit-like smeagol.I dont know why that happened.... maybe they'll explain it in the next movie(s) when gollum is tamed by frodo? *looks hopeful*

Maeglin · 01-19-2002, 03:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dûrkriswen: His original name was Smeagol, but people began calling him Gollum because of the *gollum* noises he would make in his throat. (he began making these noises after he got the ring, he made these noises out of self pity for himself because everyone began hating him, I asume).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Gee, Dûrkriswen. Im not such an "unknower" i'v read ALL the books several times. What i meanth was how you where told in the MOVIE. This is the "Movie-Forum" after all.Sorry if I was a little unclear. And thx for understanding what i mean nazgul queen.[ January 19, 2002: Message edited by: Maeglin ]

01-18-2002, 12:14 PM	#1
Maeglin Wight Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nan Elmoth Posts: 136	Gollum - no Smeagol? Am I wrong or did Gandalf say that Gollum's name was Gollum before he got the ring?<BR>He said something like that a person called Gollum took it. Wich isnt right when his name was Smeagol. <BR>Im not childich but im not sure im right. __________________ The fool speaks of what he knows. The wise knows what he speaks of.

01-18-2002, 04:20 PM	#2
Dûrkriswen Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 12	His original name was Smeagol, but people began calling him Gollum because of the gollum noises he would make in his throat. (he began making these noises after he got the ring, he made these noises out of self pity for himself because everyone began hating him, I asume). __________________ http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2320898899.jpg

01-19-2002, 12:04 AM	#3
Nazgûl Queen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 75	<center>I know what you mean, maeglin.<P>Instead of explaining how Smeagol got the ring (after murdering his friend deagol) and then it turned him into the loathsome gollum, gandalf just said that gollum got the ring - he was never shown as hobbit-like smeagol.<P>I dont know why that happened.... maybe they'll explain it in the next movie(s) when gollum is tamed by frodo? looks hopeful __________________ - The Nazgûl they were; the Ringwraiths, the Enemy's most terribly servants; darkness went with them and they cried with the voices of death -

01-19-2002, 03:38 PM	#4
Maeglin Wight Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nan Elmoth Posts: 136	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dûrkriswen:<BR><STRONG>His original name was Smeagol, but people began calling him Gollum because of the gollum noises he would make in his throat. (he began making these noises after he got the ring, he made these noises out of self pity for himself because everyone began hating him, I asume).</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Gee, Dûrkriswen. Im not such an "unknower" i'v read ALL the books several times. What i meanth was how you where told in the MOVIE. This is the "Movie-Forum" after all.<P>Sorry if I was a little unclear. And thx for understanding what i mean nazgul queen.<p>[ January 19, 2002: Message edited by: Maeglin ] __________________ The fool speaks of what he knows. The wise knows what he speaks of.