Metro claims Aragorn to be attracted to Eowyn...are they nuts?! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

LePetitChoux · 12-12-2002, 04:23 PM

In todays metro there was a review of TTT. The reporter claimed that Aragorn was getting 'very friendly' with Eowyn, which I can only take to mean as a romantic kind of "friendly". Now am I missing something, or am I right in believing that Aragorn nly has eyes for Arwen?

the witch king · 12-12-2002, 04:31 PM

Must admit i thort the same thing!

Cherie Centaur · 12-12-2002, 05:38 PM

Well, to tell ya the truth, while I was reading TTT, I did think there was some attraction between the two, but it was more like that of the tired soldier who saw a pretty village girl. Basically, not all that serious. That relationship is NOT the kind you would base a marridge on. So, Arwen doesn't have anything to worry about. We know he doesn't sleep with her(Eowyn), and why would someone who is making a series of movies about virtues make one of the most important heroes cheat on his lover? Besides which, the press distort thing all the time to make more sales(also just to be evil , no offense to anyone in journalism of course ), so don't be surprised. I think it will all turn out right. I admit when I first found out about the new image they made for Arwen, I got pretty mad, but I bet most of us agree that they did do that change pretty well .[ December 12, 2002: Message edited by: Cherie Centaur ]

Belin · 12-12-2002, 05:52 PM

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Jack · 10-21-2003, 03:31 PM

I hate it when people say stuff like that!!!!!!!!!!! Aragorn and Eowyn should not be alowed to even look at each other!!!

Cinderella · 10-21-2003, 03:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I hate it when people say stuff like that!!!!!!!!!!! Aragorn and Eowyn should not be alowed to even look at each other!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Um... I disagree. I think that thread was extremely intresting and I think that the element of Eowyn being in "love" with Aragorn is what makes her character's sorrows and triumphs that much more intresting. On Aragorn having feelings for Eowyn I do believe he was attracted as any man would be but nothing that he couldn't brush off and come to think of her more as a little sister type...

Arwen1858 · 10-21-2003, 07:19 PM

Aragorn wasn't interested in Eowyn in that way. He pitied her, because he knew he could never return her love. But he also knew she didn't truly love him for who he was. It was more his image she loved. Aragorn stayed completely true to Arwen.

ladyhwi · 10-21-2003, 07:50 PM

Eowyn is not in love with just infatuated with Aragorn as the hero. sort of like the guy in uniform thing. Aragorn does feel for her, the position she is in and an admiration for her courage and her beauty. I think the movie version hints at maybe he's thinking Arwen will leave with her people in the end and then what about me? Also how can the couragous and virtuos Movie Eowyn Ever fall for that terrible Movie Faramir. Sexual tension is good either way I suppose. Though I hope Faramir becomes a lot more deserving in ROTK, we shall see.

Knight of Gondor · 10-21-2003, 08:31 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Eowyn is not in love with just infatuated with Aragorn as the hero. sort of like the guy in uniform thing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Kind of like all the girls who swoon after Orlando Bloom!

Jack · 10-22-2003, 12:43 PM

hehe... good point Knight of Gondor... Cinderella I should tell you I was mostly over dramatizing (I should have said so tho...) It just bugs me when people think Eowyn and Aragorn were ment for each other... (Where is Arwen Please!!) cause I am Eowyn-Faramir fan, and a Arwen-Aragorn fan... but in the freindly way they can look at each other.

Lush · 10-22-2003, 02:53 PM

Thanks for the free promotion, Belin. The way Peter Jackson has handled Aragorn's character so far, one would only be surprised if Eowyn didn't interest him in some tiny [physical?] sense. I think the key here is what exactly the term "attraction" signifies and how important it actually is to the rest of the story. If an attraction is a flighty bodily impulse, it often has about zero importance, on the screen or on the page, besides reminding the observer of a character's inherent humanity. Did Aragorn think Eowyn "fair"? You bet your As-faloth he did. Did it mean that he was thinking of ditching Arwen and pursuing his blond ambition? Nah. He loved Arwen. But just because you love someone doesn't mean that you don't necessarily become stunned or even overwhelmed by another person's good looks, good character, or whatever it is you find appealing. Does that automatically translate into a betrayal of love? I highly doubt it. I belive in TTT, Jackson was succesful in handling the Aragorn/Eowyn dynamic, in that he showed Aragorn to be clearly noticing her, but without that whole overdone "ooh baby baby" aspect to his gaze that would have made him seem like a cad. The thing is, Jackson's interpretation of Aragorn makes him obviously human (remember the look on Viggo's face when the Ring tempts him toward the end of FotR?); he's a great man, but still a man. This is true to the spirit of the book, because while Tolkien' never explicitly got inside Aragorn's head (except for the Appendices, and even then the story was pretty detached), I don't believe he wanted us to feel that Aragorn was some sort of mythic version of a Middle-Earth saint.

Mattius · 10-22-2003, 03:07 PM

Also, he believed that Arwen was sailing to the Undying Lands (in the film not book) which also gave his attraction to the golden haired lady some realism.

HCIsland · 10-22-2003, 07:27 PM

I think that is a good point to remember for the film.In the book Arwen was always there waiting for Aragorn to emerge as King. Aragorn had no doubts about that and thus didn't have any leanings towards Eowyn, though he did love her and wished her happiness.In the film, Aragorn thinks Arwen is leaving. Eowyn falls in love with Aragorn because of what he represents something, escape and honour. I think in the film, Aragorn may see Eowyn as a symbol as well. A symbol of a more simple relationship for him. Perhaps he he was wrong to think that he and Arwen could work. When I see him looking at Eowyn in the film, I see a desire for a simplier life, not so much a desire for her.I think in the end though, PJ has to play this that Aragorn never does lose his love for Arwen and as such cannot allow himself to consider a relationship with Eowyn.H.C.

12-12-2002, 04:23 PM	#1
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	Metro claims Aragorn to be attracted to Eowyn...are they nuts?! In todays metro there was a review of TTT. The reporter claimed that Aragorn was getting 'very friendly' with Eowyn, which I can only take to mean as a romantic kind of "friendly". Now am I missing something, or am I right in believing that Aragorn nly has eyes for Arwen? __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

12-12-2002, 04:31 PM	#2
the witch king Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minas Morgul, Morgul Vale, Mordor Posts: 201	Must admit i thort the same thing! __________________ 'Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.'~ Che Guevara.

12-12-2002, 05:38 PM	#3
Cherie Centaur Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cottage Cheese near the Gap Posts: 95	Well, to tell ya the truth, while I was reading TTT, I did think there was some attraction between the two, but it was more like that of the tired soldier who saw a pretty village girl. Basically, not all that serious. That relationship is NOT the kind you would base a marridge on. So, Arwen doesn't have anything to worry about. We know he doesn't sleep with her(Eowyn), and why would someone who is making a series of movies about virtues make one of the most important heroes cheat on his lover? <P>Besides which, the press distort thing all the time to make more sales(also just to be evil , no offense to anyone in journalism of course ), so don't be surprised. I think it will all turn out right. I admit when I first found out about the new image they made for Arwen, I got pretty mad, but I bet most of us agree that they did do that change pretty well .<p>[ December 12, 2002: Message edited by: Cherie Centaur ] __________________ Why do we let the monkey slide for popping the weasel? Just because he thought it was fun? Guys, we're dealing with a psycho.

12-12-2002, 05:52 PM	#4
Belin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: all the wide unfriendly pathways of the world Posts: 330	You will certainly be interested in <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002421" TARGET=_blank>this thread.</A><P>--Belin Ibaimendi __________________ "I hate dignity," cried Scraps, kicking a pebble high in the air and then trying to catch it as it fell. "Half the fools and all the wise folks are dignified, and I'm neither the one nor the other." --L. Frank Baum

10-21-2003, 03:31 PM	#5
Jack Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rohan or some where there abouts (probably lost!) Posts: 92	I hate it when people say stuff like that!!!!!!!!!!! Aragorn and Eowyn should not be alowed to even look at each other!!! __________________ I have been: eating sugar, drinking caffeinated soda, doing the wave, the disco and various other dances just as, if not more humiliating, and all in all, acting like the deranged Pirate that I am…

10-21-2003, 03:59 PM	#6
Cinderella Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Arda Unmarred, MA Posts: 173	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I hate it when people say stuff like that!!!!!!!!!!! Aragorn and Eowyn should not be alowed to even look at each other!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Um... I disagree. I think that thread was extremely intresting and I think that the element of Eowyn being in "love" with Aragorn is what makes her character's sorrows and triumphs that much more intresting. On Aragorn having feelings for Eowyn I do believe he was attracted as any man would be but nothing that he couldn't brush off and come to think of her more as a little sister type... __________________ These violent delights have violent ends... "Live fast, die young, and have a beautiful looking corpse." -J. Dean

10-21-2003, 07:19 PM	#7
Arwen1858 Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gondor Posts: 516	Aragorn wasn't interested in Eowyn in that way. He pitied her, because he knew he could never return her love. But he also knew she didn't truly love him for who he was. It was more his image she loved.<BR>Aragorn stayed completely true to Arwen. __________________ Will Turner: "This is either madness or brilliance." Jack Sparrow: "It's remarkable how often those two traits coincide." ~ Pirates of the Caribbean

10-21-2003, 07:50 PM	#8
ladyhwi Newly Deceased Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: southeastern massachusetts Posts: 10	Eowyn is not in love with just infatuated with Aragorn as the hero. sort of like the guy in uniform thing. Aragorn does feel for her, the position she is in and an admiration for her courage and her beauty. I think the movie version hints at maybe he's thinking Arwen will leave with her people in the end and then what about me? Also how can the couragous and virtuos Movie Eowyn Ever fall for that terrible Movie Faramir. Sexual tension is good either way I suppose. Though I hope Faramir becomes a lot more deserving in ROTK, we shall see. __________________ "I have not seen thy sunny face, Nor heard thy silver laughter: No thought of me shall find a place In thy young life's hereafter- Enough that now thou will not fail To listen to my fairy-tale." Lewis Carroll

10-21-2003, 08:31 PM	#9
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Eowyn is not in love with just infatuated with Aragorn as the hero. sort of like the guy in uniform thing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Kind of like all the girls who swoon after Orlando Bloom! __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

10-22-2003, 12:43 PM	#10
Jack Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rohan or some where there abouts (probably lost!) Posts: 92	hehe... good point Knight of Gondor... <P>Cinderella I should tell you I was mostly over dramatizing (I should have said so tho...) It just bugs me when people think Eowyn and Aragorn were ment for each other... (Where is Arwen Please!!) cause I am Eowyn-Faramir fan, and a Arwen-Aragorn fan... but in the freindly way they can look at each other. __________________ I have been: eating sugar, drinking caffeinated soda, doing the wave, the disco and various other dances just as, if not more humiliating, and all in all, acting like the deranged Pirate that I am…

10-22-2003, 02:53 PM	#11
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Thanks for the free promotion, Belin. <P>The way Peter Jackson has handled Aragorn's character so far, one would only be surprised if Eowyn didn't interest him in some tiny [physical?] sense. <P>I think the key here is what exactly the term "attraction" signifies and how important it actually is to the rest of the story. <P>If an attraction is a flighty bodily impulse, it often has about <I>zero</I> importance, on the screen or on the page, besides reminding the observer of a character's inherent humanity. <P>Did Aragorn think Eowyn "fair"? You bet your As-faloth he did. Did it mean that he was thinking of ditching Arwen and pursuing his blond ambition? Nah. He loved Arwen. <P>But just because you love someone doesn't mean that you don't necessarily become stunned or even overwhelmed by another person's good looks, good character, or whatever it is you find appealing. Does that automatically translate into a betrayal of love? I highly doubt it. <P>I belive in TTT, Jackson was succesful in handling the Aragorn/Eowyn dynamic, in that he showed Aragorn to be clearly noticing her, but without that whole overdone "ooh baby baby" aspect to his gaze that would have made him seem like a cad. <P>The thing is, Jackson's interpretation of Aragorn makes him obviously human (remember the look on Viggo's face when the Ring tempts him toward the end of FotR?); he's a great man, but still a man. This is true to the spirit of the book, because while Tolkien' never explicitly got inside Aragorn's head (except for the Appendices, and even then the story was pretty detached), I don't believe he wanted us to feel that Aragorn was some sort of mythic version of a Middle-Earth saint. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

10-22-2003, 03:07 PM	#12
Mattius Soul of Fire Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Steel Posts: 666	Also, he believed that Arwen was sailing to the Undying Lands (in the film not book) which also gave his attraction to the golden haired lady some realism. __________________ A problem shared is a problem halved, so is your problem really yours or just half of someone else's?

10-22-2003, 07:27 PM	#13
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I think that is a good point to remember for the film.<P>In the book Arwen was always there waiting for Aragorn to emerge as King. Aragorn had no doubts about that and thus didn't have any leanings towards Eowyn, though he did love her and wished her happiness.<P>In the film, Aragorn thinks Arwen is leaving. Eowyn falls in love with Aragorn because of what he represents something, escape and honour. I think in the film, Aragorn may see Eowyn as a symbol as well. A symbol of a more simple relationship for him. Perhaps he he was wrong to think that he and Arwen could work. When I see him looking at Eowyn in the film, I see a desire for a simplier life, not so much a desire for her.<P>I think in the end though, PJ has to play this that Aragorn never does lose his love for Arwen and as such cannot allow himself to consider a relationship with Eowyn.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor