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Peri · 12-05-2002, 02:57 PM

Hi all. I'm posting this here first beacause the movies site is down. This comes from a fellow LOTR fan and I'm passing it on to anyone who wants to read it. This IS a TTT: 1st 10 min opening sequence spoiler, so if you don't want to know, don't read.*************************WARNING********** ******************************TTT SPOILER**************************************** The Two Towers begins with an imposing panoramic shot of the Misty Mountains. The camera crosses their steep peaks and, little by little, a voice starts to be audible in the distance. The camera approaches closer and closer to the mountains, and finally goes inside. Then you know that the voice in the distance is that of Gandalf. We enter the mountain and arrive at the bridge of Khazad- dûm at the scene of the fight with the Balrog! Ian McKellen was in the same place as when he was last seen in FoTR. Then, we return to see the sequence of the Fellowship of the Ring in which Gandalf falls into the chasm with the Balrog. But this time, we do not follow the Fellowship as it flees from Moria - but we instead see Gandalf and the Balrog as they fall into the chasm whilst they continue fighting. The sequence finishes without showing us the defeat of the Balrog at this moment (I suppose that the defeat of the Balrog is narrated by means of a flashback, just as Gandalf's escape from Orthanc was in the first film - although this is just a guess). Despite all of that, we cut to Frodo and Sam entering the Emyn Muil - and already, without delay, Gollum finally appears. This sequence tells how they catch and Gollum and subsequent events (we have already seen something like this in the trailer) as they decide to take Gollum with them. I cannot tell you more, as I'd prefer that you see Gollum for yourselves (in all seriousness: I cannot tell you more about the appearance of Gollum, in light of non-disclosure agreements(?)). I seem to remember that this comes before a brief sequence that shows Merry and Pippin being carried by the Uruks - as Pippin drops his broach as a signal for his friends. Then there is also a scene in Isengard - but not necessarily in this order. I am a professional and have seen many films - but now I must clear my mind carefully to try to remember what I saw correctly. Saruman, who has already created a terrible army of Uruk-Hai, orders his followers to attack the plains of Men. And later there is a scene in which Uruks devastate a town of the Rohirrim and some of the humans try to flee towards Edoras.

Eruwen · 12-05-2002, 03:06 PM

OMG. That is so cool. Where did he find that? Although, you might have to pm the answer to me. They have been closing all posts in the Novices and Newcomers section that has to do with the movies. But thanks for the info!!

Arwen Imladris · 12-05-2002, 03:13 PM

Thanks Perri! Any more spoilers for me?

Estelyn Telcontar · 12-05-2002, 03:17 PM

Sorry, further spoilers will have to wait till next week to be posted. Please be patient and wait for the reopening of the Movies forum.

Arwen Imladris · 12-08-2002, 08:07 PM

Hehehe. Don't worry I found my own spoilers!<A HREF="http://www.lordoftherings.net/" TARGET=_blank>Interviews, trailers..</A> <A HREF="http://www.ringbearer.org/" TARGET=_blank>spoilers, pics of TREEBEARD!!! Scroll down the page a bit first.</A> <A HREF="http://www.tolkien-movies.com/" TARGET=_blank>reviews reviews </A> <A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/" TARGET=_blank>spy reports (ie SPOILERS)</A><A HREF="http://64.4.36.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=a71c7f5490e2480c3a4ccd55f0c861 ad&lat=1039399005&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2et olkienonline%2ecom" TARGET=_blank>SPOILERS! Including a complete list of film changes!</A><A HREF="http://www.tolkienonline.com/movies/changes_index.cfm" TARGET=_blank>complete list of film changes!</A>

Tigerlily Gamgee · 12-08-2002, 09:10 PM

No no no! I know that I am usually the biggest advocate of spoilers, but trust me - there are some things in this film that you don't want spoiled for you!!!!!!! Don't read the full list of spoilers because then nothing will surprise you & the things I loved the best were the things I was not expecting... so don't do it!

Nenya · 12-09-2002, 07:31 AM

I really can't decide whether to read the BIG spoilers or not...! Argh, this is horrible. *thinks a moment* Ok, I'll follow your advice, Tigerlily, 'cos i too loved it everytime when something new came up in FotR. And I've allready read too many reviews with hundreds of spoilers, and am regretting it...

Arwen Imladris · 12-09-2002, 02:53 PM

Opps, too late! oh well, I will probebly only get to see it like once so this is how I make up for it. BTW Tigerlily, you can't talk because you have already seen it! That is the biggest spoiler of all! Humf.[ December 09, 2002: Message edited by: Arwen Imladris ]

Tigerlily Gamgee · 12-09-2002, 05:54 PM

I don't plan on revealing anything to anyone, unless they ask via PM. But there's only one week to go, so that wait is not that bad now

12-05-2002, 02:57 PM	#1
Peri Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 124	WARNING: Hugh Spoilers Ahead... Hi all. I'm posting this here first beacause the movies site is down. This comes from a fellow LOTR fan and I'm passing it on to anyone who wants to read it. This IS a TTT: 1st 10 min opening sequence spoiler, so if you don't want to know, don't read.<P>***********************WARNING****** **************************TTT SPOILER**************************************<P> The Two Towers begins with an imposing panoramic shot of the Misty <BR>Mountains. The camera crosses their steep peaks and, little by <BR>little, a voice starts to be audible in the distance. The camera <BR>approaches closer and closer to the mountains, and finally goes <BR>inside. Then you know that the voice in the distance is that of <BR>Gandalf. We enter the mountain and arrive at the bridge of Khazad-<BR>dûm at the scene of the fight with the Balrog! Ian McKellen was in <BR>the same place as when he was last seen in FoTR.<BR>Then, we return to see the sequence of the Fellowship of the Ring in <BR>which Gandalf falls into the chasm with the Balrog. But this time, <BR>we do not follow the Fellowship as it flees from Moria - but we <BR>instead see Gandalf and the Balrog as they fall into the chasm <BR>whilst they continue fighting. The sequence finishes without showing <BR>us the defeat of the Balrog at this moment (I suppose that the <BR>defeat of the Balrog is narrated by means of a flashback, just as <BR>Gandalf's escape from Orthanc was in the first film - although this is <BR>just a guess).<BR>Despite all of that, we cut to Frodo and Sam entering the Emyn Muil -<BR>and already, without delay, Gollum finally appears. This sequence <BR>tells how they catch and Gollum and subsequent events (we have <BR>already seen something like this in the trailer) as they decide to <BR>take Gollum with them. I cannot tell you more, as I'd prefer that <BR>you see Gollum for yourselves (in all seriousness: I cannot tell you <BR>more about the appearance of Gollum, in light of non-disclosure <BR>agreements(?)).<BR>I seem to remember that this comes before a brief sequence that <BR>shows Merry and Pippin being carried by the Uruks - as Pippin drops <BR>his broach as a signal for his friends.<BR>Then there is also a scene in Isengard - but not necessarily in this <BR>order. I am a professional and have seen many films - but now I must <BR>clear my mind carefully to try to remember what I saw correctly. <BR>Saruman, who has already created a terrible army of Uruk-Hai, orders <BR>his followers to attack the plains of Men. And later there is a <BR>scene in which Uruks devastate a town of the Rohirrim and some of <BR>the humans try to flee towards Edoras. __________________ "Ah, but I'll begowk ye there!" cried the gentleman. "Play me false, and I'll play you cunning."

12-05-2002, 03:13 PM	#3
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Thanks Perri! Any more spoilers for me? __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

12-05-2002, 03:17 PM	#4
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Sorry, further spoilers will have to wait till next week to be posted. Please be patient and wait for the reopening of the Movies forum. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

12-08-2002, 08:07 PM	#5
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Hehehe. Don't worry I found my own spoilers!<P><A HREF="http://www.lordoftherings.net/" TARGET=_blank>Interviews, trailers..</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.ringbearer.org/" TARGET=_blank>spoilers, pics of TREEBEARD!!! Scroll down the page a bit first.</A><BR><A HREF="http://www.tolkien-movies.com/" TARGET=_blank>reviews reviews </A><BR><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/" TARGET=_blank>spy reports (ie SPOILERS)</A><P><A HREF="http://64.4.36.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=a71c7f5490e2480c3a4ccd55f0c861 ad&lat=1039399005&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2et olkienonline%2ecom" TARGET=_blank>SPOILERS! Including a complete list of film changes!</A><P><A HREF="http://www.tolkienonline.com/movies/changes_index.cfm" TARGET=_blank>complete list of film changes!</A> __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

12-08-2002, 09:10 PM	#6
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	No no no! I know that I am usually the biggest advocate of spoilers, but trust me - there are some things in this film that you don't want spoiled for you!!!!!!! Don't read the full list of spoilers because then nothing will surprise you & the things I loved the best were the things I was not expecting... so don't do it! __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

12-05-2002, 03:06 PM	#2
Eruwen Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 892	OMG. That is so cool. Where did he find that? Although, you might have to pm the answer to me. They have been closing all posts in the Novices and Newcomers section that has to do with the movies. But thanks for the info!!

12-09-2002, 07:31 AM	#7
Nenya Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the hand of Lady Galadriel Posts: 127	I really can't decide whether to read the BIG spoilers or not...! Argh, this is horrible. thinks a moment Ok, I'll follow your advice, Tigerlily, 'cos i too loved it everytime when something new came up in FotR. And I've allready read too many reviews with hundreds of spoilers, and am regretting it...

12-09-2002, 02:53 PM	#8
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Opps, too late! oh well, I will probebly only get to see it like once so this is how I make up for it. <P>BTW Tigerlily, you can't talk because you have already seen it! That is the biggest spoiler of all! Humf.<p>[ December 09, 2002: Message edited by: Arwen Imladris ] __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

12-09-2002, 05:54 PM	#9
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	I don't plan on revealing anything to anyone, unless they ask via PM. But there's only one week to go, so that wait is not that bad now __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~