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02-12-2002, 09:01 AM

I'm writing a paper(?) on LotR, and I need a little bit of help:
I've read somewhere, that Tolkien said LotR took place about 6000 years ago. Is this right, and if so, where does it say so?
Any help are appreciated.

02-12-2002, 09:13 AM

I am not sure about that. I read somewhere also (though this is obviously unsupportable as I have no proof) that it did take place in an area kind of like olde England. As far as 6000 years that would seem right, but again I am not sure. I do know I did a paper on Tolkien and used a lot of comparisons as to what I thought it meant. Historically we know the ideas came from the war and the people and locations he was familiar with. AS to the time frame I cannot be sure. I don't know if this helps.

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-12-2002, 09:27 AM

Yes, he actually wrote that:

Quote:

"I imagine the gap [between LOTR and now] to be about 6000 years; that is we are now at the end of the Fifth Age, if the Ages were of about the same length as S[econd] A[ge] and T[hird] A[ge]. But they have, I think, quickened; and I imagine we are actually at the end of the Sixth Age, or in the Seventh."

But, i don't think he thought of creating his own religion - he was a christian you know [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Androndo the Thoughtfull ]

02-12-2002, 09:32 AM

Could you tell me exactly where you found it? Book and pagenumber?
Thanks

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-12-2002, 09:38 AM

Well, actually i read it in the Encyclopaedia of Arda (witch i am currently translating into rigsdansk)...

You can see the whole story here.

The only clue we get on that page is it is written in 1958. In "DISCLAIMER & BIBLIOGRAPHY" they write they used "The letters of J.R.R. Tolkien" to make their site. So it's probably in there somewhere!

Androndo the Thoughtfull · 02-12-2002, 11:55 AM

Try look at this site:http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~bouvin/tolk...erplanet.html. it describes the case very well... (and it is of course written by a dane :-)

Carannillion · 02-13-2002, 10:55 AM

I read a book by David Day, which I think was called "A Tolkien Encyclopaedia: The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth" (or something). It had a decent explanation about it, and also to the places of ME and where they "are" today. Unfortunately, it was in the public library, and now it's stolen or something! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] ! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] ! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] ! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img]

02-14-2002, 09:08 AM

Thanks for the help.
Androndo the Thoughtfull, it sounds like you have your hands full, if youre going to translate that [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

02-12-2002, 09:01 AM	#1
Witchking Guest Posts: n/a	A little help needed... I'm writing a paper(?) on LotR, and I need a little bit of help: I've read somewhere, that Tolkien said LotR took place about 6000 years ago. Is this right, and if so, where does it say so? Any help are appreciated.

02-12-2002, 09:38 AM	#5
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	Well, actually i read it in the Encyclopaedia of Arda (witch i am currently translating into rigsdansk)... You can see the whole story here. The only clue we get on that page is it is written in 1958. In "DISCLAIMER & BIBLIOGRAPHY" they write they used "The letters of J.R.R. Tolkien" to make their site. So it's probably in there somewhere! __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...

02-12-2002, 11:55 AM	#6
Androndo the Thoughtfull Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Daugaardstrand, Denmark Posts: 118	Try look at this site:http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~bouvin/tolk...erplanet.html. it describes the case very well... (and it is of course written by a dane :-) __________________ ...and with a tremendous slice of luck you may come out one day...

02-13-2002, 10:55 AM	#7
Carannillion Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mici Firya Posts: 135	I read a book by David Day, which I think was called "A Tolkien Encyclopaedia: The Complete Guide to Middle-Earth" (or something). It had a decent explanation about it, and also to the places of ME and where they "are" today. Unfortunately, it was in the public library, and now it's stolen or something! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] ! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] ! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] ! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] __________________ A cry for the people, but there's noone there to hear...

02-12-2002, 09:13 AM	#2
markgossett Guest Posts: n/a	I am not sure about that. I read somewhere also (though this is obviously unsupportable as I have no proof) that it did take place in an area kind of like olde England. As far as 6000 years that would seem right, but again I am not sure. I do know I did a paper on Tolkien and used a lot of comparisons as to what I thought it meant. Historically we know the ideas came from the war and the people and locations he was familiar with. AS to the time frame I cannot be sure. I don't know if this helps.

02-12-2002, 09:32 AM	#4
Witchking Guest Posts: n/a	Could you tell me exactly where you found it? Book and pagenumber? Thanks

02-14-2002, 09:08 AM	#8
Witchking Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for the help. Androndo the Thoughtfull, it sounds like you have your hands full, if youre going to translate that [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]