Elven, Elven, Elven...what about the rest of us? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nevolosse Maehayanda · 01-31-2003, 06:48 PM

With all we hear about elven, elven, and more elves, what about the rest of the species? Have YOU seen a sight dedicated to dwarves? or orcs? okay, I admit there ARE SOME...but very few...

And once you get down to the other species, very few remember that there are some FEMALES of them....*grrr...*

I mean, whoever said Gimli was a guy?

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Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 01-31-2003, 07:00 PM

Gimli did!! At sometime in the book anyway..
and YES there are a few sites for hobbits, but that is about it. never noticed any for wizards/dwarves/Men...

Shy Hobbit · 01-31-2003, 07:01 PM

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I mean, whoever said Gimli was a guy?

Now THAT is a disturbing thought! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Seriously, to answer that question, maybe because he is referred to as son of Gloin [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I have to agree though, you see more sites about elvish, learning elvish, how wonderful this elf was or that elf...hey, maybe Samwise has come from middle earth and taken over the internet with his fascination of elves!

Not that I have anything against elves, I love em to peices, except at times they tend to be suspcious, and maybe a bit predgidous (sp?) i.e., making Gimli wear a blindfold through the forest. Guess you can see from my screen name what species I favor [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] that is, besides Gandalf and Shadowfax. I've been looking for a good Shadowfax pic/painting to use for an avatar but they seem to be few and far between. Heh, yet put "Legolas" into the google search and you could look for days and days...oh well!

EDIT: as for not being many sites about wizards, I guess HP has taken over that realm [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Shy Hobbit ]

01-31-2003, 07:02 PM

If you are so worried about some site, why don't you make one yourself? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Nevolosse Maehayanda · 01-31-2003, 07:04 PM

Actually, I've started one..hehehhe..just not enough time..*laughs*.

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'Nev

Hirilaelin · 01-31-2003, 07:11 PM

Gimli? A girl? Disturbing.. I do reckon that I am scarred for life. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Brrr.... *shivers*

But yea, there are almost no sites about the other races. And females are SO underepresented! Arg! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] This needs to change.. Hmm.. *insert thoughtful frown*

~Hirilaelin, Sorceress of the Misted Waters

Blue Elf · 01-31-2003, 07:44 PM

There aren't many Gollum fans or sites either...though there do exist a few, and they are really cool.

Tar-Palantir · 01-31-2003, 08:02 PM

Well half the elf sites are probably really just "Orli" sites anyway! Blehh..

Maybe if Tolein wrote complete dwarvish and Orcish languages people would be speaking that too. Oooohh, or Entish! I would be an Ent.

[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

Hirilaelin · 01-31-2003, 08:06 PM

Yea, I want to be an ent! That would be cool! But I would be an entwife, as I am a girl.

~Hirilaelin, Sorceress of the Misted Waters

dragoneyes · 02-01-2003, 05:10 AM

How long would a conversation in Entish take though?

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But I would be an entwife, as I am a girl.

I am also but I would still be an Ent as I can't stand gardening.

Rose Cotton · 02-01-2003, 12:47 PM

Entish would be hard to learn since every word is really loooooooong!

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-01-2003, 12:47 PM

Yay! I want to be an Elf.....sorry.

Hmmm, there should be more sites on the Rangers, but they weren't in the movie so...

Gorwingel · 02-03-2003, 10:37 PM

We do need more Dwarf love, Gimli never gets enough respect, he is the one member of the fellowship that I think is ignored most of the time.
But I am glad that there is not any websites that are like "We love John Rhyes Davies", or "Gimli is so hot" that would be disturbing. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 02-03-2003, 10:42 PM

Elves are the perfect humans. People would like to be perfect. That's why.

the real findorfin · 02-04-2003, 06:42 AM

Its probably because the Silmarillion features Elves most of all the races, they have had the most exposure. and lets face it, they are pretty awesome.

PeregrinTook · 02-04-2003, 02:51 PM

Elves are way too perfect! Hobbits rock!

VanimaEdhel · 02-04-2003, 06:14 PM

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I mean, whoever said Gimli was a guy?

And people give me funny looks for my theory! I'm not the only one! Gimli-females united! Haha...I actually wish Tolkien had given us more about Dîs, the only Dwarf Queen...or just more about the Dwarves in general. I just gravitate towards the Elves because that is the race that Tolkien seemed to have developed the most, especially concerning culture, music, and language. And, as they said, they have The Silmarillion, an entire book nearly dedicated to the history of the Elves.

I disagree, Beren87. I think that The Silmarillion greatly decreases the Elves' perfection. They were not all peachy/happy during the book: there was a lot of treachery and death during the Elvish history. Sure, they get plopped back on Middle Earth after a time, but they still go through the whole "dying" process and they kill each other.

Morgul Queen · 02-04-2003, 09:28 PM

Come on what about Wraiths!!!
How can everyone forget about the Nazgul THE (in my opinion) coolest race (uh...sub-race) in middle-earth!!

01-31-2003, 06:48 PM	#1
Nevolosse Maehayanda Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: in my mind...(mua ha ha ha) Posts: 17	Elven, Elven, Elven...what about the rest of us? With all we hear about elven, elven, and more elves, what about the rest of the species? Have YOU seen a sight dedicated to dwarves? or orcs? okay, I admit there ARE SOME...but very few... And once you get down to the other species, very few remember that there are some FEMALES of them....grrr... I mean, whoever said Gimli was a guy? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ "Who says you can't headbang to classical music?" ~Alex Vollrath-Smith

01-31-2003, 07:00 PM	#2
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	Gimli did!! At sometime in the book anyway.. and YES there are a few sites for hobbits, but that is about it. never noticed any for wizards/dwarves/Men... __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

01-31-2003, 07:04 PM	#5
Nevolosse Maehayanda Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: in my mind...(mua ha ha ha) Posts: 17	Actually, I've started one..hehehhe..just not enough time..laughs. [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] 'Nev __________________ "Who says you can't headbang to classical music?" ~Alex Vollrath-Smith

01-31-2003, 07:11 PM	#6
Hirilaelin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Immersed in a Good Book Posts: 367	Gimli? A girl? Disturbing.. I do reckon that I am scarred for life. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Brrr.... shivers But yea, there are almost no sites about the other races. And females are SO underepresented! Arg! [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] This needs to change.. Hmm.. insert thoughtful frown ~Hirilaelin, Sorceress of the Misted Waters __________________ ...so I fired two warning shots. Into his head. - Chicago Let Helky stay! Bree\|Imladris\|guess you'll never know...

01-31-2003, 07:44 PM	#7
Blue Elf Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Gollum's cave Posts: 124	There aren't many Gollum fans or sites either...though there do exist a few, and they are really cool. __________________ ...and when I conquer the world, you can be in charge of my ray gun!

01-31-2003, 07:02 PM	#4
She_Elf_Merenwen Guest Posts: n/a	If you are so worried about some site, why don't you make one yourself? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

01-31-2003, 08:02 PM	#8
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	Well half the elf sites are probably really just "Orli" sites anyway! Blehh.. Maybe if Tolein wrote complete dwarvish and Orcish languages people would be speaking that too. Oooohh, or Entish! I would be an Ent. [ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

01-31-2003, 08:06 PM	#9
Hirilaelin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Immersed in a Good Book Posts: 367	Yea, I want to be an ent! That would be cool! But I would be an entwife, as I am a girl. ~Hirilaelin, Sorceress of the Misted Waters __________________ ...so I fired two warning shots. Into his head. - Chicago Let Helky stay! Bree\|Imladris\|guess you'll never know...

02-01-2003, 12:47 PM	#11
Rose Cotton Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: A place worse then Mordor........School! Posts: 1,075	Entish would be hard to learn since every word is really loooooooong! __________________ "There's nothing you can do, Harry... nothing... he's gone."-Remus Lupin "The closer we are to danger, the further we are from harm."-Pippin (now how can you argue with that logic?)

02-01-2003, 12:47 PM	#12
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Yay! I want to be an Elf.....sorry. Hmmm, there should be more sites on the Rangers, but they weren't in the movie so... __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-03-2003, 10:37 PM	#13
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	We do need more Dwarf love, Gimli never gets enough respect, he is the one member of the fellowship that I think is ignored most of the time. But I am glad that there is not any websites that are like "We love John Rhyes Davies", or "Gimli is so hot" that would be disturbing. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

02-03-2003, 10:42 PM	#14
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Elves are the perfect humans. People would like to be perfect. That's why.

02-04-2003, 06:42 AM	#15
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	Its probably because the Silmarillion features Elves most of all the races, they have had the most exposure. and lets face it, they are pretty awesome. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

02-04-2003, 02:51 PM	#16
PeregrinTook Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Good ol' USA! Posts: 26	Elves are way too perfect! Hobbits rock! __________________ Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. ...Even if you were too small to understand why. ~~~I am Eothain in 'Adventures of the Female Fellowship' RPG!~~~

02-04-2003, 09:28 PM	#18
Morgul Queen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dontgonearthe Castle Posts: 414	Come on what about Wraiths!!! How can everyone forget about the Nazgul THE (in my opinion) coolest race (uh...sub-race) in middle-earth!! __________________ Athrabeth is still doing the wave for Boromir the Disco-King Oh...and call me Morgy!