Lembas - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Raefindel · 12-15-2002, 10:18 PM

I found a Lembas site but it is in German. Can anyone tell us about it?Lembas

I also found a
Lembas Cafe.

And a

Lembas Restaurant.

And of course, you can't leave out this amusing

Lembas Poem.

[ December 15, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ]

Tigerlily Gamgee · 12-16-2002, 12:04 AM

Lembas Recipe!!!!

Estelyn Telcontar · 12-16-2002, 03:49 AM

Raefindel, I looked up that German site. It is a university student's cookbook, recipes that have nothing to do with Middle-earth. They have been collected to be simple to prepare and nourishing to eat, hence the title "Lembas" for the cookbook. Unfortunately, no lembas recipe is included! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Thanks, both of you, for the interesting links!

Neferchoirwen · 12-16-2002, 11:24 AM

The cafe looks more like the Shire, and lembas are great for the Shire!

Raefindel · 12-16-2002, 04:52 PM

Thanks Estelyn, I was hoping you'd come and tell us all about it. My curiosity is sated. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Have a day · 12-21-2002, 12:07 AM

All in all... Lembas rule!

Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood · 12-21-2002, 12:34 AM

My friend made lembas for one of her parties, using one of those online recipe things. I thought them to be very good!

arelendil · 12-24-2002, 12:48 PM

My Lembas always taste great put are very full of sugar and genrally look like cinammon cookies(which my parents tried to ice - you DON'T ice Lembas)

What do you think the rcipe was that they used in the films. My sister said it was probably just toast put I don't think it was any ideas?

Kirsanne_Tolebrass · 12-26-2002, 03:22 PM

Thanks for the lembas recipe, my friend will love it!

busybee · 12-27-2002, 08:23 AM

Cool!Is it just as filling? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

mark12_30 · 12-27-2002, 08:38 AM

What about wheat-free, gluten-free lembas? No, I'm not kidding... seriously, this is a plea for help. I'm allergic to gluten and wheat and dairy. I've been hankering for a while now to find a good bagel substitute. (I **really** miss bagels. Like Bolco does.)

So... Breadlike products can be baked with a combination of bean flour, corn starch, and tapioca flour, with xanthan gum. I've made bread before, with reasonable results. And I look at those Lembas in the movie, and my mouth waters. Can it be done? Which recipe would you use? I'm not interested in raisins, exotic fruit, whatnot. Just a basic, simple, enjoyable bread. Honey would be good to add. But I have NO idea where to begin.

Does anybody have any suggestions? (please...?)

Mark12_30 aka Helen aka Daffodil Furrow aka ***REALLY MISSES BAGELS wants lembas***

doug*platypus · 12-29-2002, 07:32 AM

That's classic, dude -

Quote:

you DON'T ice Lembas

cracks me up, I love this forum.

I dunno what they made it out of in the film, but I think it may have contained traces of nuts - watch out if you're the allergic type. Tell ya what, though, they were a LOT bigger than I thought they would be!

King Turgon · 12-31-2002, 12:18 PM

I am just curious, what are mallorn leaves? I would like to make lembas for New Years.

Raefindel · 12-31-2002, 12:47 PM

Hellen, You're gonna make me cry!
I have no idea what I'd do if i was forbidden to eat certain foods! I'd go NUTS!

What do you usually use in place of wheat flour? Rice flour? does it measure the same? You might try searchingALLrecipes.com to see what you can come up with. I'm afraid I really bite it at attempting to convert recipes until I have a really good understanding of the dietary boundaries. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] As far as Lembas goes, I've always just used one of my won recipes and called it Lemabs.

I did find a recipe for eggnog bread that sounded good.

eggnog bread

I also found lots of Bagle recipes , if it helps you at all.

King Turgon, Mallorn leaves do not exist in todays world. If you are attempting to wrap slices of bread in leaves, Giant maple leaves would probablly work well, as they are so large. However, I have no idea what is available in your area. Here the leaves are all off the trees, anyway.

[ December 31, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ]

Nevolosse Maehayanda · 01-02-2003, 03:16 PM

hmmm...I always thought that lembas was pretty decent of a size. About the same size as your average oak leaf! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] And then the mallorn leaves were humongous. But in the movie, they were...toast size...interesting...anybody else think differently?

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
Nev'

Sadbh · 01-02-2003, 04:08 PM

This is a really odd song parody I just thought of. I have no idea if its any good or not... oh well. Oh, and it's song to the 'Chiqita Banana' song. The ch-ch sounds are not me frothing at the mouth, they're maraca sounds. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I'm Chiqita Lembasa,
And I'm here to say
That you must eat lembas in a
Certain Way.

When you feel hungry,
And your stomache does too,
A bite of lembas is the best for you.

You don't put them in a salad,
Ch-ch ch-ch,(maraca like sound)
They'd make a really weird pie-aiya-aiya

But if you just nibble and eat them,
Ch-ch ch-ch,
It's impossible to beat them,
Ch-ch ch-ch.

But Lembas like the climate
Of the temperate Golden Woods
So don't put them in a fridge,
With other Elven food goods,
Oh no no no!

Cha cha cha!
notnull

mark12_30 · 01-02-2003, 08:06 PM

Rae,

Thanks for responding! You're so cheery, it does my soul good. And thanks for the links; I will check them out.

What I normally use for flour is this: (ready? it's wierd but it works really well...) One-third corn starch, one-third bean flour (soy, garbanzo...) and one-third tapioca flour. And then you add "some" xanthan gum to make up for the lack of gluten.

Last Saturday I made the recipe for "Journey Cake" (posted by Lostgariel) using the above flour mixture for the all-purpose-flour, a quarter teaspoon xanthan gum for good measure, (and I think I added a teaspoon of Molasses; also I used butter instead of shortening...) I baked it in an iron skillet. And----- YEE HAAAAH! it's EDIBLE! (Glory to the Living God who endures Forever, I have a ***working edible recipe***!) And, thank you, Lostgaeriel!!!

So... next time, I'll try it in thinner "cakes" (This was about as thick as cornbread; it tasted like cornbread too, but sweeter, and it toasts nicely, so I'll try it sort of "cookie" style and see if I think it's like Lembas. (In my dreams? Why not...)

In the meantime-- I think I do need to try bagels. I wonder if you could make a lembas, wafer-ish-style, and still boil it, bagel-style. (I love the outside of bagels. Bagels rule breadland...)

Thanks again, Rae. And Lostgaeriel if you're out there still, thanks again, too! (The funny thing is, the recipe you posted is from Rhode Island-- and so am I. Not very many things are from Rhode Island, so you can understand my amazement. )

Lady_Báin · 01-06-2003, 08:26 AM

well i thought that mallorn leaves were roughly the size of banana leaves, and the lembas in the movie was about the same size as i imagined. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

mark12_30 · 01-06-2003, 09:29 AM

Update from most recent dairy & wheat & gluten free lembas baking session:

Pouring the batter thinly (about pancake thickness, 1/4 to 1/3 inch max) works very nicely. I used cast iron frying pans (I have four of various sizes) and I also used a pizza stone which worked quite well. (My lembas therefore comes out in pie-sized rounds which get cut into pie-shaped slices.)

They come out on the moist side. I loosen them from the pans (butter pans well), cut them, cool them on racks and put them in tins, and when I want one, I toast them in the toaster oven til the edges turn golden-brown.

I'm hooked. Breakfast, lunch, dinner... bedtime snack...

(them Rhode Island elves knew what they was doin'...)

Here's the (Rhode Island Journey-Cake) recipe I'm using:
2 cups corn meal
1 cup flour (normally all-purpose; but I use 1/3 cup bean flour, 1/3 c tapioca flour, 1/3 c. cornstarch, plus 1/4 tsp xanthan gum)
1 cup brown sugar
2 tsp baking powder
2 cups milk (I use vanilla Silk soymilk, works great)
1/4 cup butter, melted

...Then I add one teaspoon molasses (not in the orig recipe.)

Also, enough butter to grease the skillets/ pizza stones.

I suppose you could try to be healthy and use ... olive oil or something, but these are so sweet it seems silly.

I do think I'll try this again with less corn meal and more "flour", and then maybe I'll use oil and play with the recipe some more, and shoot for something more bread-like and less cookie-like, for variety's sake.

[ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ]

Lindril Arvilya · 01-06-2003, 06:46 PM

I saw a documentary on The Two Towers the other day- apparently the lembas bread they used was pita bread. Elijah and Sean got really sick of eating it. It can get kinda flavourless after awhile, I suppose.

[ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: Lindril Arvilya ]

Raefindel · 01-06-2003, 08:47 PM

I'm glad you found something that works, Helen. I usually use either a coffee cake recipe and slice it, or use a white cookie recipe (both of which I've posted before). I have also served shortbread as lembas, though there aren't too many lembas-eaters here.

mark12_30 · 01-06-2003, 09:19 PM

Rae, could you tell me where you posted those? "white cookie" intrigued me... might work with my particular substitutions, maybe. But I searched in M-E Mayhem and in Books, no luck? Thanks, --Mark12_30

Raefindel · 01-06-2003, 10:25 PM

They are really good but are actually a poor "Lembas" as they have cornflakes and coconut in them. Party Planning

Arda Recipe Book
I have a whole bunch of recipes posted on this page so you may have to look for it.

[ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: Raefindel ]

Nimrodel · 01-16-2003, 09:29 PM

I've made Eggnog Bread before, Raefindel, and it would make a good Lembas.

polices · 05-22-2003, 08:41 PM

I hate lembas.

12-15-2002, 10:18 PM	#1
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Lembas I found a Lembas site but it is in German. Can anyone tell us about it?Lembas I also found a Lembas Cafe. And a Lembas Restaurant. And of course, you can't leave out this amusing Lembas Poem. [ December 15, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

12-16-2002, 12:04 AM	#2
Tigerlily Gamgee Hostess of Spirits Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Meduseld Posts: 1,055	Lembas Recipe!!!! __________________ ~ ExerciseJunky.com (Hobbits fitness of choice!)~ ~Lady of Rohan: An Eowyn Fansite ~ ~The NEW/OLD Barrow Downs Photo Page~

12-16-2002, 03:49 AM	#3
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Raefindel, I looked up that German site. It is a university student's cookbook, recipes that have nothing to do with Middle-earth. They have been collected to be simple to prepare and nourishing to eat, hence the title "Lembas" for the cookbook. Unfortunately, no lembas recipe is included! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Thanks, both of you, for the interesting links! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

12-16-2002, 11:24 AM	#4
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 512	The cafe looks more like the Shire, and lembas are great for the Shire! __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

12-16-2002, 04:52 PM	#5
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Thanks Estelyn, I was hoping you'd come and tell us all about it. My curiosity is sated. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

12-21-2002, 12:07 AM	#6
Have a day Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 15	All in all... Lembas rule! __________________ Laugh at me now, laugh at me later, laugh at me as I smash your face into a table "There once was an alliance between the preps and the punks..." From my unholy mockery 'Lord of the scrunchie'

12-21-2002, 12:34 AM	#7
Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mirkwood, my kingdom Posts: 404	My friend made lembas for one of her parties, using one of those online recipe things. I thought them to be very good! __________________ Thengise Greenleaf daughter of Legolas Greenleaf. My heart and soul belong to Judge Simon.

12-24-2002, 12:48 PM	#8
arelendil Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Eryn Lasgalen Posts: 202	My Lembas always taste great put are very full of sugar and genrally look like cinammon cookies(which my parents tried to ice - you DON'T ice Lembas) What do you think the rcipe was that they used in the films. My sister said it was probably just toast put I don't think it was any ideas? __________________ Nai Vardo eleni ilye lumenn' enomentielvo siluvar!

12-26-2002, 03:22 PM	#9
Kirsanne_Tolebrass Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bree Posts: 17	Thanks for the lembas recipe, my friend will love it! __________________ Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Ignore me, everyone else does. :( @~'~,~

12-27-2002, 08:23 AM	#10
busybee Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood, Lothlorien...dream...actually the middle of nowhere...Mumbai Posts: 89	Cool!Is it just as filling? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Pleeze does anyone know of a magical doorway or something to Middle Earth!?!?

12-27-2002, 08:38 AM	#11
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	What about wheat-free, gluten-free lembas? No, I'm not kidding... seriously, this is a plea for help. I'm allergic to gluten and wheat and dairy. I've been hankering for a while now to find a good bagel substitute. (I really miss bagels. Like Bolco does.) So... Breadlike products can be baked with a combination of bean flour, corn starch, and tapioca flour, with xanthan gum. I've made bread before, with reasonable results. And I look at those Lembas in the movie, and my mouth waters. Can it be done? Which recipe would you use? I'm not interested in raisins, exotic fruit, whatnot. Just a basic, simple, enjoyable bread. Honey would be good to add. But I have NO idea where to begin. Does anybody have any suggestions? (please...?) Mark12_30 aka Helen aka Daffodil Furrow aka *REALLY MISSES BAGELS wants lembas* __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

12-31-2002, 12:18 PM	#13
King Turgon Pile O'Bones Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Gondolin Posts: 11	I am just curious, what are mallorn leaves? I would like to make lembas for New Years.

12-31-2002, 12:47 PM	#14
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Hellen, You're gonna make me cry! I have no idea what I'd do if i was forbidden to eat certain foods! I'd go NUTS! What do you usually use in place of wheat flour? Rice flour? does it measure the same? You might try searchingALLrecipes.com to see what you can come up with. I'm afraid I really bite it at attempting to convert recipes until I have a really good understanding of the dietary boundaries. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] As far as Lembas goes, I've always just used one of my won recipes and called it Lemabs. I did find a recipe for eggnog bread that sounded good. eggnog bread I also found lots of Bagle recipes , if it helps you at all. King Turgon, Mallorn leaves do not exist in todays world. If you are attempting to wrap slices of bread in leaves, Giant maple leaves would probablly work well, as they are so large. However, I have no idea what is available in your area. Here the leaves are all off the trees, anyway. [ December 31, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

01-02-2003, 03:16 PM	#15
Nevolosse Maehayanda Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: in my mind...(mua ha ha ha) Posts: 17	hmmm...I always thought that lembas was pretty decent of a size. About the same size as your average oak leaf! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] And then the mallorn leaves were humongous. But in the movie, they were...toast size...interesting...anybody else think differently? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Nev' __________________ "Who says you can't headbang to classical music?" ~Alex Vollrath-Smith

01-02-2003, 04:08 PM	#16
Sadbh Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 67	This is a really odd song parody I just thought of. I have no idea if its any good or not... oh well. Oh, and it's song to the 'Chiqita Banana' song. The ch-ch sounds are not me frothing at the mouth, they're maraca sounds. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I'm Chiqita Lembasa, And I'm here to say That you must eat lembas in a Certain Way. When you feel hungry, And your stomache does too, A bite of lembas is the best for you. You don't put them in a salad, Ch-ch ch-ch,(maraca like sound) They'd make a really weird pie-aiya-aiya But if you just nibble and eat them, Ch-ch ch-ch, It's impossible to beat them, Ch-ch ch-ch. But Lembas like the climate Of the temperate Golden Woods So don't put them in a fridge, With other Elven food goods, Oh no no no! Cha cha cha! notnull __________________ Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we take the Standerdized Tests.

01-02-2003, 08:06 PM	#17
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Rae, Thanks for responding! You're so cheery, it does my soul good. And thanks for the links; I will check them out. What I normally use for flour is this: (ready? it's wierd but it works really well...) One-third corn starch, one-third bean flour (soy, garbanzo...) and one-third tapioca flour. And then you add "some" xanthan gum to make up for the lack of gluten. Last Saturday I made the recipe for "Journey Cake" (posted by Lostgariel) using the above flour mixture for the all-purpose-flour, a quarter teaspoon xanthan gum for good measure, (and I think I added a teaspoon of Molasses; also I used butter instead of shortening...) I baked it in an iron skillet. And----- YEE HAAAAH! it's EDIBLE! (Glory to the Living God who endures Forever, I have a *working edible recipe*!) And, thank you, Lostgaeriel!!! So... next time, I'll try it in thinner "cakes" (This was about as thick as cornbread; it tasted like cornbread too, but sweeter, and it toasts nicely, so I'll try it sort of "cookie" style and see if I think it's like Lembas. (In my dreams? Why not...) In the meantime-- I think I do need to try bagels. I wonder if you could make a lembas, wafer-ish-style, and still boil it, bagel-style. (I love the outside of bagels. Bagels rule breadland...) Thanks again, Rae. And Lostgaeriel if you're out there still, thanks again, too! (The funny thing is, the recipe you posted is from Rhode Island-- and so am I. Not very many things are from Rhode Island, so you can understand my amazement. ) __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-06-2003, 08:26 AM	#18
Lady_Báin Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Peterborough, England Posts: 250	well i thought that mallorn leaves were roughly the size of banana leaves, and the lembas in the movie was about the same size as i imagined. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ pæling.

01-06-2003, 09:29 AM	#19
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Update from most recent dairy & wheat & gluten free lembas baking session: Pouring the batter thinly (about pancake thickness, 1/4 to 1/3 inch max) works very nicely. I used cast iron frying pans (I have four of various sizes) and I also used a pizza stone which worked quite well. (My lembas therefore comes out in pie-sized rounds which get cut into pie-shaped slices.) They come out on the moist side. I loosen them from the pans (butter pans well), cut them, cool them on racks and put them in tins, and when I want one, I toast them in the toaster oven til the edges turn golden-brown. I'm hooked. Breakfast, lunch, dinner... bedtime snack... (them Rhode Island elves knew what they was doin'...) Here's the (Rhode Island Journey-Cake) recipe I'm using: 2 cups corn meal 1 cup flour (normally all-purpose; but I use 1/3 cup bean flour, 1/3 c tapioca flour, 1/3 c. cornstarch, plus 1/4 tsp xanthan gum) 1 cup brown sugar 2 tsp baking powder 2 cups milk (I use vanilla Silk soymilk, works great) 1/4 cup butter, melted ...Then I add one teaspoon molasses (not in the orig recipe.) Also, enough butter to grease the skillets/ pizza stones. I suppose you could try to be healthy and use ... olive oil or something, but these are so sweet it seems silly. I do think I'll try this again with less corn meal and more "flour", and then maybe I'll use oil and play with the recipe some more, and shoot for something more bread-like and less cookie-like, for variety's sake. [ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ] __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-06-2003, 06:46 PM	#20
Lindril Arvilya Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In a box at the end of Harrison Ford's street, with a pair of binoculars Posts: 332	I saw a documentary on The Two Towers the other day- apparently the lembas bread they used was pita bread. Elijah and Sean got really sick of eating it. It can get kinda flavourless after awhile, I suppose. [ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: Lindril Arvilya ] __________________ Neo, watch out! Trinity's going to steal your pants! Pants thief! Pants thief!

01-06-2003, 08:47 PM	#21
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	I'm glad you found something that works, Helen. I usually use either a coffee cake recipe and slice it, or use a white cookie recipe (both of which I've posted before). I have also served shortbread as lembas, though there aren't too many lembas-eaters here. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

01-06-2003, 09:19 PM	#22
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Rae, could you tell me where you posted those? "white cookie" intrigued me... might work with my particular substitutions, maybe. But I searched in M-E Mayhem and in Books, no luck? Thanks, --Mark12_30 __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

01-06-2003, 10:25 PM	#23
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	They are really good but are actually a poor "Lembas" as they have cornflakes and coconut in them. Party Planning Arda Recipe Book I have a whole bunch of recipes posted on this page so you may have to look for it. [ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: Raefindel ] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

01-16-2003, 09:29 PM	#24
Nimrodel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Golden Wood Posts: 48	I've made Eggnog Bread before, Raefindel, and it would make a good Lembas. __________________ Beside the falls of Nimrodel,By water clear and cool, Her voice as falling silver fell Into the shining pool

05-22-2003, 08:41 PM	#25
polices Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2003 Location: a little place called "Stuck in a pot" Posts: 48	I hate lembas. __________________ "The time of the elfs has ended."Elrond "It is also the end of the men..."ME! "It is the time of the... SUPER-ROBOTIC-FLYING-GENETICALLY-MODIFIED-SUPER-DARVES!"