HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

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Place all future questions from History of Middle-Earth in this thread. Keep all questions in this thread to with answers found in History of Middle-Earth.

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

Ok; I'll ask this one again (simply because I think it would spark an interesting discussion in another thread):

Who in HISTORY is shown to be born an out-of-wedlock child, but not 'elaborated' upon as such text-wise.

I believe my original question mentioned this as a dark untold tale.
Since this one went un-answered the first time; I'll add an aid.
The answer is found in HISTORY Vol. 12 (The Heirs of Elendil).

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

As discovered in Books Section: Aranarth.

Jes; suggest Grond as a suitable question maker here as he correctly answered a previously unanswered question regarding Elanor's daughter.

I retire from this thread altogether.

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

An easy question to re-open this thread:
What was the name of the black ship that carried the deaths to the island of Mandos?

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

Should I ask a new question?

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Re: Mandos

Should've been answered before now. Mornie, Grond.

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Re: Mandos

Correct, of course. Your turn, Gwaihir.

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Re: Mandos

Explain why the moon appears to have darker patches on it.

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Re: Mandos

It could be from when it was attacked by spirits of shadow sent by Morgoth. But it was probably from straying to close to Arien, the Sun.

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Re: Mandos

Since Gwaihir is on vacation and I believe your latter answer is correct, go ahead Durelen. Hmmm, I just realized your nick is supposed to be black star, correct?

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Re: Mandos

I guess you could say that is what my name means. I will think of a question in a little bit, I don't know any to ask at the moment.

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Re: Mandos

What were the gates of Gondolin made of, and in what order where they?

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Re: Mandos

1 Wood
2 Stone
3 Bronze
4 Iron
5 Silver
6 Gold
7 Steel (The Great Gate of)

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Re: Mandos

That is correct. It is your turn, HerenIstarion.

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allright

'Hateful art thou, O Land of Threes!
May fear and silence on thee seize!

said (chanted?) he (on ewhom I ask you to name)
and mirth had left Doriath, and the wood stood silent and grim

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Re: allright

Don't know that one, Mith (I'm probably not up to the HoME book it's in yet). But I'd just like to point out that Durelen's answer was not quite right. Lorien would not not pick Silpion's last flower, and waited for iit to fall before he touched it; the bruising of the flower can be seen clearly on the moon.

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Re: allright

<img src=eek.gif ALT=":eek"> ?

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Re: allright

Thus spake Dairon in anger learning of Luthien's love for Beren, and thereafter in the Land of Trees music he played not.

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Re: allright

correct. Carry on Mith

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Re: allright

HoME 5 discusses a maia clothed as a captain of the glamhoth, the orcs. He is also discussed elsewhere. Name this maia/orc captain.

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Re: allright

Boldog, probably?

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Re: allright

Indeed. Your serve HI.

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Re: allright

one of the members of an &quot;order&quot; - translate it to Quenya

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Re: allright

I know what you are saying but I don't think I quite understand. Heren Istarion?

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Re: allright

Heren?

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Alright: Gandalf is of the Order of Istari, and the Quenya name given to him by the Elves of Valinor is Olorin. Somehow I don't think that's what you meant, though, Heren?

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hmm, I think Gwaihir didn't even realize that that was my guess, Heren Istarion is Quenyen for The Order of Wizards, so order would be Heren. Is that what you are looking for H-I?

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I think you'll find that HI said 'the member'. Give him a break, Durelen! He's only been gone for a day or two! <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

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Re: allright

*breaths deeply* thank you for a break Gwaihir <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

ok, i need a singular form

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> one of the members...<hr></blockquote>

ps, you are almost hitting the mark

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Er... taking the last letter off a word? Istari becomes Istar when sigularlising (???), Noldor Noldo, Maiar Maia and so on.

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aha, rigth, istar was the word I was looking for. ask away

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I thought you were looking for the quenya word for order. istar would be wizard, and heren is be order. Another question that I should have gotten right if i just looked at it a little longer.

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Re: allright

Ulmo's 'car' bears resemblance to one's hands after a spot of angling in what way? (apart from the wet)

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

Alright, this was rather a toughie. The answer is that their both 'fishy' (somewhere I remember reading 'And Ulmo in his fishy car...') Vey obscure.

Ask another, whoever wants to.

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

I'd like, as you don't mind seemingly <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

what was the name that orcs in the first age applied to Noldor?

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

White skins? I know its not good - but I really want to know the answer!

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HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

Was it something like tark?

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

I must confess I totally forgot the thing and can't remember where did I stumbled upon it. Sorry for inconvinience

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

Tark was an Orkish word meaning Man of Gondor.

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Re: HISTORY OF MIDDLE-EARTH - Trivia Thread #1

Ask a new one H-I

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