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10-28-2002, 08:36 AM | #1 |
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Sauron
was Sauron actually a real person? or a large metal robot-thing?
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If any of this loses you, please go to the Encyclopedia of Arda.
It's a good resource and can answer many basic questions about Middle-earth. You can look up any of the terms below in it if they are unfamiliar to you. Sauron is what is known as Maiar...or used to be, before he turned evil. Nonetheless, he is not a human, elf, dwarf, warg, orc, troll, or ent. He is an Ainu, an immortal spirit that existed before the world of Arda (that Middle-earth exists in). From The Silmarillion, Quote:
From Tolkien's Letter No. 20, on the nature of Ainur (the Valar and Maiar): Quote:
The 14 Valar are Manwe, Mandos, Varda, Nessa, Vana, Tulkas, Irmo, Ulmo, Orome, Aule, Yavanna, Vaire, and Este. Maiar that Tolkien told us about: Ilmare, Eonwe, Osse, Uinen, Melian, Olorin (Gandalf/Mithrandir), Sauron (Gorthaur the Cruel), Salmar, Arien, Tilion, Curunir (Curumo/Saruman), Radagast, Alatar, Pallando, and "the Valaraukar, the scourges of fire that in Middle-earth were called the Balrogs, demons of terror." Sauron was a Maia of Aule, but Morgoth, the first Dark Lord who was originally a Vala himself, corrupted him. Sauron was his second-in-command until Morgoth was thrown into the void. If you're asking what he looked like, he could actually change appearance. In The Silmarillion, he takes the form of a wolf in one instance, but most of the time, he looks like a man. One thing you might not know is that the wizards, too, were Maiar...not humans. That's why Gandalf was able to come back. The spirits of the wizards were sent in the form of old men to help Middle-earth battle Sauron. Gandalf's mission was not complete when his physical body gave out after the fight with the balrog, so the Valar sent him back to Middle-earth. (He was obviously the only one that stuck to the mission.) [ October 28, 2002: Message edited by: Legalos ]
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10-28-2002, 10:03 AM | #3 |
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Sauron isn't either one. I don't believe it is ever explicitly spelled out what he is, but there are a lot of characteristics, that at least partially imply that he is related to the same race as the wizards, which aren't human either, by the way. I need to be quick to point out though that Sauron's nature is nothing similar to that of anything found within the free peoples and known allies of Middle-Earth. I believe he would be closest to a Lich type figure. A powerful and ancient reincarnation of a foul and corrupted being, he has become the embodiment of evil and greed. He has but one motivation, and that is to rule, and bring ruin to all existance. Yours is a good question and one worth researching, though in the end I believe Tolkien left it open to the interpretation of the reader for the most part. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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10-28-2002, 10:14 AM | #4 |
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k, ty [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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10-28-2002, 10:26 AM | #5 |
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"though in the end I believe Tolkien left it open to the interpretation of the reader for the most part."
Thist isn't accurate at all. What he looked like exactly is left up the reader some, but of Sauron's nature, he told us all about these things in his other books. Galadhrion's answer is mostly right, until the last sentence. [ October 28, 2002: Message edited by: Legalos ]
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On Sauron's appearance, Letter No. 246:
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