Battle of Evermore. - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the witch king · 05-14-2003, 05:44 AM

Have any of you guys heard the Battle of Evermore by Led Zepplin? Its a great song all about the Battle of Pelennor fields worth a listen to even of your not a fan!

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05-14-2003, 08:41 AM

Yeah I've heard it. One of my favourite songs, actually. Very recommendable.

Aule · 05-14-2003, 09:10 AM

It is a cool song, yet nothng compared to Stairway to Heaven. I'm sure a lot of you know that there are a few Led Zepp songs inspired by LotR.
Also crazy German band Blind Guardian have whole albums dedicated to the Silm and Lotr. The songs are very cool, i recomend you lot listen to a few. Its a bit different.

eleanor_niphredil · 05-14-2003, 10:55 AM

is that the one that is supposed to be told by gollum? Someone said that if you replace the word "baby" with "precious", the whole song makes sooo much more sense!

But yeah, Stairway to Heaven beats it hands down. My dad got his first guitar with that song. he asked for one, and his mum said "But you cant play the guitar" so he picked one up and played that song. So she had to buy him one then. Its "The best song in the world" and has its own "Tribute". If you dont get what i mean, then dont ask. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

hobbit punk · 05-14-2003, 08:17 PM

I worship the ground Blind Guardian walks on. Never before has music touched me in the profound way that their's has. God bless power metal. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

PS: I will check out the zepplin song. They are a pretty decent band. And I know if it is about LOTR I will like it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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Scott · 05-14-2003, 08:58 PM

Zepplin Rules!
Well that's about it... although I have to say that Kashmir rings a much more profound chord in my heart than Stairway to Heaven ever could. The Battle of Evermore takes second place.
~Scott

the witch king · 05-15-2003, 07:18 AM

The Battle of Evermore:

Queen of Light took her bow,
And then she turned to go.
The Prince of Peace embraced the gloom,
And walked the night alone.

Dance in the dark of night,
Sing to the morning light.
The dark Lord rides in force tonight,
And time will tell us all.

Throw down your plow and hoe,
Rest not to lock your homes.
Side by side we wait the might,
Of the darkest of them all.

I hear the horses' thunder down in the valley below.
I'm waiting for the angels of Avalon,
Waiting for the eastern glow.

The apples of the valley hold,
The seas of happiness.
The ground is rich from tender care,
Repay do not forget.

Dance in the dark of night,
Ssing to the morning light.
The apples turn to brown and black,
The tyrant's face is red.

Oh the war is common cry,
Pick up you swords and fly.
The sky is filled with good and bad,
That mortals never know.

Oh well the night is long the beads of time pass slow.
Tired eyes on the sunrise,
Waiting for the eastern glow.

The pain of war cannot exceed,
The woe of aftermath.
The drums will shake the castle wall,
The ring wraiths ride in black.

Sing as you raise your bow,
Shoot straighter than before.
No comfort has the fire at night,
That lights the face so cold.

Dance in the dark of night,
Sing to the morning light.
The magic runes are writ in gold,
To bring the balance back.

At last the sun is shining,
The clouds of blue roll by.
With flames from the dragon of darkness,
The sunlight blinds his eyes.

eleanor_niphredil · 05-15-2003, 12:21 PM

nope, not the one i was thinking of. but a good one all the same.

MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie · 05-15-2003, 09:31 PM

Led Zeppelin songs have some references to Middle-earth. I think that they're an alright band. I used to like them more, but now I'm more settled on what bands I like and the ones I really like. My favorite zepellin song is Kashmir, and the one I hate the most is Rock and Roll, and I hold Cadillac responsible.

Legolas · 05-16-2003, 09:56 AM

What kind of sense does basing your musical (dis)tastes on the songs used by advertisements? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Anyway, the Battle of Evermore doesn't appear to be specifically about Pelennor Fields. The lyrics are just inspired by Middle-earth. Someone mentioned that there are quite a few Zeppelin songs inspired by Middle-earth. There aren't, though, really - there are a few that make allusions to Middle-earth, but I'd hardly call it inspiration. The songs would've been written, with or without the allusions.

eleanor_niphredil · 05-16-2003, 11:48 AM

How can we know whether or not those songs where inspired by Middle-earth? You need to ask the writer to know that. Sometimes, even the writer doesnt know what inspired him.

the witch king · 05-16-2003, 11:51 AM

Look at this, think he has some good points about Tolkien and Zepplin dont you?

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Oddwen · 05-17-2003, 04:27 AM

My Dad and I think 'Evermore' sounds more like the battle of Helms' Deep.
I like Kashmir too, the guitar riff at the end of the Matrix reminds me of it.

06-10-2003, 04:46 AM

Why does it say 'newly deceased' after my name further up the list of replies?

Estelyn Telcontar · 06-10-2003, 05:09 AM

daisy, please read the Forum FAQ thread (Along with the Forum Policies thread, it's at the top of the Novices and Newcomers forum main page.) for the answer to your question.

ambi · 06-13-2003, 02:54 AM

I like this song by Led Zeppelin. Robert Plant's voice is amazing.

But I like Blind Guardian even before. Any of you guys here registered in www.blind-guardian.com?

06-15-2003, 05:04 PM

Yep. The Battle of Evermore is awesome. Along with Ramble On, Misty Mountain Hop, and Stairway to Heaven. All make several allusions to Tolkien. They are one of my favorite bands. There's nothing quite like rocking out to Led, is there?

Finwe · 06-16-2003, 12:22 PM

Led Zeppelin's become one of my favorite bands, just because there are a lot of Tolkien allusions in there. I think Battle of Evermore is just about my favorite song, with Stairway to Heaven coming in a close second.

Aule · 06-16-2003, 08:03 PM

The books must have inspired them at some point, maybe not for the whole song, but for bits and pieces of it. They sing about he Dark Lord, Misty Mountains etc...

I know Page was in love with all these fantasy things, Lotr, that santanist Crowley guy. And you cannot like something this much without it having some effect on your life.

QuickSlash · 06-16-2003, 11:03 PM

Loved that song. Big fan of Led, and especially Kashmir. It's all beautiful. They do have many ME/fantasy-inspired songs. I never thought the Battle of Evermore to be about anything more than a fantasy battle, though.

And Ramble On is the song with 'In the deepest depths of Mordor,' and then 'Gollum and the Evil One.' Never heard that about replacing 'precious' in it. Thanks!

05-14-2003, 05:44 AM	#1
the witch king Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minas Morgul, Morgul Vale, Mordor Posts: 201	Battle of Evermore. Have any of you guys heard the Battle of Evermore by Led Zepplin? Its a great song all about the Battle of Pelennor fields worth a listen to even of your not a fan! [ May 14, 2003: Message edited by: the witch king ] __________________ 'Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.'~ Che Guevara.

05-14-2003, 09:10 AM	#3
Aule Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hammering away in Valinor Posts: 126	It is a cool song, yet nothng compared to Stairway to Heaven. I'm sure a lot of you know that there are a few Led Zepp songs inspired by LotR. Also crazy German band Blind Guardian have whole albums dedicated to the Silm and Lotr. The songs are very cool, i recomend you lot listen to a few. Its a bit different. __________________ For him that is pitiless, the deeds of pity are ever strange and beyond reckoning - of Melkor before his final downfall

05-14-2003, 10:55 AM	#4
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	is that the one that is supposed to be told by gollum? Someone said that if you replace the word "baby" with "precious", the whole song makes sooo much more sense! But yeah, Stairway to Heaven beats it hands down. My dad got his first guitar with that song. he asked for one, and his mum said "But you cant play the guitar" so he picked one up and played that song. So she had to buy him one then. Its "The best song in the world" and has its own "Tribute". If you dont get what i mean, then dont ask. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

05-14-2003, 08:17 PM	#5
hobbit punk Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 86	I worship the ground Blind Guardian walks on. Never before has music touched me in the profound way that their's has. God bless power metal. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] PS: I will check out the zepplin song. They are a pretty decent band. And I know if it is about LOTR I will like it. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [ May 14, 2003: Message edited by: hobbit punk ] [ May 14, 2003: Message edited by: hobbit punk ] __________________ "The alphabet does not go "A B C D What? When? How? but it does go "V W X Why? Z." -Douglas Adams

05-14-2003, 08:58 PM	#6
Scott Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio/Grey Havens Posts: 183	Zepplin Rules! Well that's about it... although I have to say that Kashmir rings a much more profound chord in my heart than Stairway to Heaven ever could. The Battle of Evermore takes second place. ~Scott __________________ Those who the Gods would destroy, They first make mad. ~Those Crazy Greeks

05-14-2003, 08:41 AM	#2
daisy_deepdelver_of_brockenborings Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah I've heard it. One of my favourite songs, actually. Very recommendable.

05-15-2003, 07:18 AM	#7
the witch king Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minas Morgul, Morgul Vale, Mordor Posts: 201	The Battle of Evermore: Queen of Light took her bow, And then she turned to go. The Prince of Peace embraced the gloom, And walked the night alone. Dance in the dark of night, Sing to the morning light. The dark Lord rides in force tonight, And time will tell us all. Throw down your plow and hoe, Rest not to lock your homes. Side by side we wait the might, Of the darkest of them all. I hear the horses' thunder down in the valley below. I'm waiting for the angels of Avalon, Waiting for the eastern glow. The apples of the valley hold, The seas of happiness. The ground is rich from tender care, Repay do not forget. Dance in the dark of night, Ssing to the morning light. The apples turn to brown and black, The tyrant's face is red. Oh the war is common cry, Pick up you swords and fly. The sky is filled with good and bad, That mortals never know. Oh well the night is long the beads of time pass slow. Tired eyes on the sunrise, Waiting for the eastern glow. The pain of war cannot exceed, The woe of aftermath. The drums will shake the castle wall, The ring wraiths ride in black. Sing as you raise your bow, Shoot straighter than before. No comfort has the fire at night, That lights the face so cold. Dance in the dark of night, Sing to the morning light. The magic runes are writ in gold, To bring the balance back. At last the sun is shining, The clouds of blue roll by. With flames from the dragon of darkness, The sunlight blinds his eyes. __________________ 'Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.'~ Che Guevara.

05-15-2003, 12:21 PM	#8
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	nope, not the one i was thinking of. but a good one all the same. __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

05-15-2003, 09:31 PM	#9
MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 573	Led Zeppelin songs have some references to Middle-earth. I think that they're an alright band. I used to like them more, but now I'm more settled on what bands I like and the ones I really like. My favorite zepellin song is Kashmir, and the one I hate the most is Rock and Roll, and I hold Cadillac responsible. __________________ Do Not Touch -Willie

05-16-2003, 09:56 AM	#10
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	What kind of sense does basing your musical (dis)tastes on the songs used by advertisements? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Anyway, the Battle of Evermore doesn't appear to be specifically about Pelennor Fields. The lyrics are just inspired by Middle-earth. Someone mentioned that there are quite a few Zeppelin songs inspired by Middle-earth. There aren't, though, really - there are a few that make allusions to Middle-earth, but I'd hardly call it inspiration. The songs would've been written, with or without the allusions. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

05-16-2003, 11:48 AM	#11
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	How can we know whether or not those songs where inspired by Middle-earth? You need to ask the writer to know that. Sometimes, even the writer doesnt know what inspired him. __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

05-16-2003, 11:51 AM	#12
the witch king Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minas Morgul, Morgul Vale, Mordor Posts: 201	Look at this, think he has some good points about Tolkien and Zepplin dont you? [ May 16, 2003: Message edited by: the witch king ] __________________ 'Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.'~ Che Guevara.

05-17-2003, 04:27 AM	#13
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,145	My Dad and I think 'Evermore' sounds more like the battle of Helms' Deep. I like Kashmir too, the guitar riff at the end of the Matrix reminds me of it. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

06-10-2003, 04:46 AM	#14
daisy_deepdelver_of_brockenborings Guest Posts: n/a	Why does it say 'newly deceased' after my name further up the list of replies?

06-10-2003, 05:09 AM	#15
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	daisy, please read the Forum FAQ thread (Along with the Forum Policies thread, it's at the top of the Novices and Newcomers forum main page.) for the answer to your question. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

06-13-2003, 02:54 AM	#16
ambi Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: India Posts: 21	I like this song by Led Zeppelin. Robert Plant's voice is amazing. But I like Blind Guardian even before. Any of you guys here registered in www.blind-guardian.com? __________________ I'm a hungry signature virus. Feed me! Or else I'll invade your signatures.

06-15-2003, 05:04 PM	#17
soul_of_the_rose Guest Posts: n/a	Yep. The Battle of Evermore is awesome. Along with Ramble On, Misty Mountain Hop, and Stairway to Heaven. All make several allusions to Tolkien. They are one of my favorite bands. There's nothing quite like rocking out to Led, is there?

06-16-2003, 12:22 PM	#18
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Led Zeppelin's become one of my favorite bands, just because there are a lot of Tolkien allusions in there. I think Battle of Evermore is just about my favorite song, with Stairway to Heaven coming in a close second. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-16-2003, 08:03 PM	#19
Aule Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hammering away in Valinor Posts: 126	The books must have inspired them at some point, maybe not for the whole song, but for bits and pieces of it. They sing about he Dark Lord, Misty Mountains etc... I know Page was in love with all these fantasy things, Lotr, that santanist Crowley guy. And you cannot like something this much without it having some effect on your life. __________________ For him that is pitiless, the deeds of pity are ever strange and beyond reckoning - of Melkor before his final downfall

06-16-2003, 11:03 PM	#20
QuickSlash Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not here. Posts: 121	Loved that song. Big fan of Led, and especially Kashmir. It's all beautiful. They do have many ME/fantasy-inspired songs. I never thought the Battle of Evermore to be about anything more than a fantasy battle, though. And Ramble On is the song with 'In the deepest depths of Mordor,' and then 'Gollum and the Evil One.' Never heard that about replacing 'precious' in it. Thanks! __________________ We're here and now, but will we ever be again? / 'Cause I have found / All that shimmers in this world is sure to fade, away, again. -Shimmer, Fuel