How Many of You Know Sindarin? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

07-15-2002, 12:23 PM

I just wanted to take a 'survey'. I know Sindarin and I just wanted to see who else knew it.

Child of the 7th Age · 07-16-2002, 07:57 AM

You might get more feedback on this in the languages forum.

I'm also curious. If you "know" Sindarin, how did you actually learn it? Was there a particular website or resource that helped you? I remember Aradalambion, for example, had a detailed course on Quenya, but a bit less on Sindarin.

And what level of expertise do you mean by "knowing" the language? To me,when a person says they "know" a language, it means they're very comfortable with it, inside and out.

Don't get me wrong. I do not "know" either Quenya or Sindarin, so whatever you've learned is a great deal more than I've mastered! People who learn one of Tolkien's languages definitely fascinate me, since I've never managed to do that, even though I've been familiar with the books for many years. I'd just like you to give us some background behind your question.

sharon, the 7th age hobbit

burrahobbit · 07-16-2002, 11:03 AM

Nobody knows Sindarin. This is partly because it is pretend.

MallornLeaf · 07-17-2002, 09:37 PM

<font color="aqua">Why are you such a kill-joy burrahobbit? <font color="white">I have also learned (the politically correct way... instead of saying "know" its "learned") to write Sindarin. In the appendices at the back of the ROTK you can find a complete, almost, grammar guide to Sindarin. A little time of figuring and you can have the whole alphabet translated.<font color="aqua"> [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img], that, my dear burrahobbit is how you can "Know" Sindarin. <font color="white"> I always sign my name in sindarin, for those who want to know.

burrahobbit · 07-17-2002, 09:47 PM

Dunno, just am. I think that I'm about to do it again, too. You are confusing Sindarin with the Tengwar. Tengwar are the letters that you write with, Sindarin is the language.

[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: burrahobbit ]

Estel the Descender · 07-18-2002, 07:24 PM

I know a little Sindarin--I just haven't any basic proficiency yet, but am learning.

[img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] I need somebody to talk to in the 'noble tongue.'

GreatWarg · 07-18-2002, 07:33 PM

One question tha Child mentioned: Did you get this off of a site? If so, then it may not be true Tolkien Elvish. True Tolkien Elvish would be only found in the books. And if you mean by 'know' Sindarin as in you can speak it and write a bit in full sentences, but not fluently then I will say I can. But I prefer to take my Elvish straight from the books, so I know it is the true Tolkien Elvish. And if you mean 'fluently' as in can speak and write quickly, then I believe few people will ever know it as much as Tolkien did.

If you want more references to Tolkien Elvish, then check in the back of the Silmarillion. There shuld be a small dictionary with commonly used Elvish prefixes and suffixes.

burrahobbit · 07-18-2002, 07:36 PM

That's the spirit, Estel! You'll never know it like you could know English, though, as it was never finished. You wouldn't be able to have a real conversation, but you could write some poetry.

Thulorongil · 08-11-2002, 06:27 PM

I've also obsessed over the elements of words in the Sil and writing in the Tengwar and in Dwarvish runes. I have no idea how, but my dad (another obsessor) downloaded seven LotR fonts onto our computer. It still is more fun to use my calligraphy pens with 'em, though

Durialion · 08-13-2002, 12:42 PM

Where can you download the fonts please tell me. Thanks!

Davin · 08-13-2002, 12:52 PM

You can download Tolkien fonts here at the Barrow-Downs. Just go to the fonts section. They have them for both Macs and Windows.

Raefindel · 08-13-2002, 01:41 PM

"Not I" said the little red-head.

08-15-2002, 10:02 PM

I am learning to speak (and correctly pronounce!) both Sindarin and Quenya. I found this wonderful little book by Ruth S. Noel called The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth; it includes both forms of Elvish as well as Tengwar and runes, and some Dwarvish, Black Speech, and various other tid-bits of "all fourteen of the languages Tolkien invented."

07-15-2002, 12:23 PM	#1
Telemundowen Guest Posts: n/a	How Many of You Know Sindarin? I just wanted to take a 'survey'. I know Sindarin and I just wanted to see who else knew it.

07-16-2002, 07:57 AM	#2
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	You might get more feedback on this in the languages forum. I'm also curious. If you "know" Sindarin, how did you actually learn it? Was there a particular website or resource that helped you? I remember Aradalambion, for example, had a detailed course on Quenya, but a bit less on Sindarin. And what level of expertise do you mean by "knowing" the language? To me,when a person says they "know" a language, it means they're very comfortable with it, inside and out. Don't get me wrong. I do not "know" either Quenya or Sindarin, so whatever you've learned is a great deal more than I've mastered! People who learn one of Tolkien's languages definitely fascinate me, since I've never managed to do that, even though I've been familiar with the books for many years. I'd just like you to give us some background behind your question. sharon, the 7th age hobbit __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

07-16-2002, 11:03 AM	#3
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	Nobody knows Sindarin. This is partly because it is pretend. __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

07-17-2002, 09:37 PM	#4
MallornLeaf Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2002 Location: who cares? Posts: 76	<font color="aqua">Why are you such a kill-joy burrahobbit? <font color="white">I have also learned (the politically correct way... instead of saying "know" its "learned") to write Sindarin. In the appendices at the back of the ROTK you can find a complete, almost, grammar guide to Sindarin. A little time of figuring and you can have the whole alphabet translated.<font color="aqua"> [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img], that, my dear burrahobbit is how you can "Know" Sindarin. <font color="white"> I always sign my name in sindarin, for those who want to know. __________________ ". . . All we must decide is what to do with the time that is given us." "I pass the test, I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel."

07-17-2002, 09:47 PM	#5
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	Dunno, just am. I think that I'm about to do it again, too. You are confusing Sindarin with the Tengwar. Tengwar are the letters that you write with, Sindarin is the language. [ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: burrahobbit ] __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

07-18-2002, 07:24 PM	#6
Estel the Descender Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 55	I know a little Sindarin--I just haven't any basic proficiency yet, but am learning. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] I need somebody to talk to in the 'noble tongue.' __________________ Qui desiderat pacem, præparet bellum. E i anîra hîdh, tangado an auth.

07-18-2002, 07:33 PM	#7
GreatWarg Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: East of the Misty Mountains Posts: 339	One question tha Child mentioned: Did you get this off of a site? If so, then it may not be true Tolkien Elvish. True Tolkien Elvish would be only found in the books. And if you mean by 'know' Sindarin as in you can speak it and write a bit in full sentences, but not fluently then I will say I can. But I prefer to take my Elvish straight from the books, so I know it is the true Tolkien Elvish. And if you mean 'fluently' as in can speak and write quickly, then I believe few people will ever know it as much as Tolkien did. If you want more references to Tolkien Elvish, then check in the back of the Silmarillion. There shuld be a small dictionary with commonly used Elvish prefixes and suffixes. __________________ "What shall we do, what shall we do!" he cried. "Escaping goblins to be caught be wolves!"

07-18-2002, 07:36 PM	#8
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	That's the spirit, Estel! You'll never know it like you could know English, though, as it was never finished. You wouldn't be able to have a real conversation, but you could write some poetry. __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

08-11-2002, 06:27 PM	#9
Thulorongil Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: wherever the road may take me Posts: 97	I've also obsessed over the elements of words in the Sil and writing in the Tengwar and in Dwarvish runes. I have no idea how, but my dad (another obsessor) downloaded seven LotR fonts onto our computer. It still is more fun to use my calligraphy pens with 'em, though __________________ I sit beside the fire and think of people long ago, And people who will see a world that I shall never know.

08-13-2002, 12:42 PM	#10
Durialion Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 42	Where can you download the fonts please tell me. Thanks! __________________ Durialion the High Elf "I wish the ring had never come to me and this adventure had never happened." Frodo "So do all who live to see these times, but you have to decide what to do when the time comes." Gandalf

08-13-2002, 12:52 PM	#11
Davin Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 166	You can download Tolkien fonts here at the Barrow-Downs. Just go to the fonts section. They have them for both Macs and Windows. __________________ So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. »»The Telmena««

08-13-2002, 01:41 PM	#12
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	"Not I" said the little red-head. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

08-15-2002, 10:02 PM	#13
hildenyarvaEru Guest Posts: n/a	I am learning to speak (and correctly pronounce!) both Sindarin and Quenya. I found this wonderful little book by Ruth S. Noel called The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth; it includes both forms of Elvish as well as Tengwar and runes, and some Dwarvish, Black Speech, and various other tid-bits of "all fourteen of the languages Tolkien invented."