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Halbereth Diagona · 07-25-2002, 07:46 AM

Why do elves never show their emotions? I know it's traditional and all that, but why? Any answers?

Arwen Imladris · 07-25-2002, 07:55 AM

Elves never show there emotions? Since when? I have never heard of that before. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 07-25-2002, 08:50 AM

In the books elves show their emotions all the time. If you're talking about the movies, they probably just wanted to make themdifferent from humans

Halbereth Diagona · 07-25-2002, 11:59 AM

Yes I am talking about the film. Likem have you ever seen Legolas get angry, or look happy? The most I've seen is Elrond raises his voice slightly.

The Silver-shod Muse · 07-25-2002, 12:05 PM

You can't go by the films, but assuming you are, PJ probably did it to show that the Elves were aloof, ancient, and the first-born and all that for the average guy that comes in and knows nothing about the elven culture and history.

obloquy · 07-25-2002, 01:22 PM

Read this.

Sarin Elfarmour · 07-25-2002, 02:49 PM

The elves had emotions, "all out comes of the war of the ring were froght with sorow" there are may other example of elves emotions, just because in the movie the're not as obvious mean nothing

Galorme · 07-27-2002, 04:53 AM

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Behold I love the earth ...the Quendi shall be the fairest of all earthly creatures and shall conceive and bring forth more beauty than all my children; and they should have the greater bliss in this world

That does not sound like creatures created to be emotionally dead. Elves feel love stronger than any creature, the love that drives them to weave magics and defy to the dark lord himself. They feel pain and anger great enough to drive themselves like a spear into the very heart of the Hells of Iron, though there be no hope of return. They alone feel the pure bliss of Valinor in the True West and the horror at the loss of the Two Trees of Light. Elves show their emotions in great ways. Arwen and Lúthien give up their imortality for love of their men , and Elros for love of his kin. Elves have and show much greater emotion than any or the mortal folk save perhaps the Valar (the wrath of Morgoth anyone?)

Halbereth Diagona · 07-27-2002, 04:59 AM

Look I only wanted to know summat, I'm not like all you people who probabaly take exams on LOTR, you don't have to shoot me down in flames, this is about what I think and what you think, not the facts. OK!!!!

Elrian · 07-27-2002, 05:37 AM

As a matter of fact it is about the facts, this is the books forum for advanced discussion of the books. There is a forum here for movie based discussion in the movie forum. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Halbereth Diagona · 07-27-2002, 07:39 AM

Is it? Oh damn it is! Sorry everyone, that's why you were all acting like you had the highest godforsaken degree in Tolkien. Right, I would close this toic, only I'm not a moderator, so I can't.

Galorme · 07-27-2002, 08:34 AM

I was not flaming you it is just that if you interesting in Arda then it is important that you get the full impression of all the Speaking Folk, and a large part of what the Elves are is the sheer power of emotion you feel. If you believe that the Eldar don’t have emotions then you miss a large part of the art of JRR Tolkien and Ea. And I don’t know about other people in these Forums but personally i am not interested in the works for academic reasons, but as that it is a work of art.

[ July 27, 2002: Message edited by: Galorme ]

07-25-2002, 07:46 AM	#1
Halbereth Diagona Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Mirkwood, duh. Why would I be anywhere else? Posts: 143	Elves Why do elves never show their emotions? I know it's traditional and all that, but why? Any answers? __________________ HALBERETH DIAGONA I'm back! Kicks computer stupid thing for breaking down. Miss me? Didn't think so...

07-25-2002, 07:55 AM	#2
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Elves never show there emotions? Since when? I have never heard of that before. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

07-25-2002, 08:50 AM	#3
Aldagrim Proudfoot Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 328	In the books elves show their emotions all the time. If you're talking about the movies, they probably just wanted to make themdifferent from humans __________________ I do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!

07-25-2002, 11:59 AM	#4
Halbereth Diagona Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Mirkwood, duh. Why would I be anywhere else? Posts: 143	Yes I am talking about the film. Likem have you ever seen Legolas get angry, or look happy? The most I've seen is Elrond raises his voice slightly. __________________ HALBERETH DIAGONA I'm back! Kicks computer stupid thing for breaking down. Miss me? Didn't think so...

07-25-2002, 12:05 PM	#5
The Silver-shod Muse Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The shoulder of a poet, TX Posts: 388	You can't go by the films, but assuming you are, PJ probably did it to show that the Elves were aloof, ancient, and the first-born and all that for the average guy that comes in and knows nothing about the elven culture and history. __________________ "'You," he said, "tell her all. What good came to you? Do you rejoice that Maleldil became a man? Tell her of your joys, and of what profit you had when you made Maleldil and death acquainted.'" -Perelandra, by C.S. Lewis

07-25-2002, 01:22 PM	#6
obloquy Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 939	Read this.

07-25-2002, 02:49 PM	#7
Sarin Elfarmour Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 43	The elves had emotions, "all out comes of the war of the ring were froght with sorow" there are may other example of elves emotions, just because in the movie the're not as obvious mean nothing __________________ Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-menu

07-27-2002, 04:59 AM	#9
Halbereth Diagona Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Mirkwood, duh. Why would I be anywhere else? Posts: 143	Look I only wanted to know summat, I'm not like all you people who probabaly take exams on LOTR, you don't have to shoot me down in flames, this is about what I think and what you think, not the facts. OK!!!! __________________ HALBERETH DIAGONA I'm back! Kicks computer stupid thing for breaking down. Miss me? Didn't think so...

07-27-2002, 05:37 AM	#10
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	As a matter of fact it is about the facts, this is the books forum for advanced discussion of the books. There is a forum here for movie based discussion in the movie forum. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

07-27-2002, 07:39 AM	#11
Halbereth Diagona Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Mirkwood, duh. Why would I be anywhere else? Posts: 143	Is it? Oh damn it is! Sorry everyone, that's why you were all acting like you had the highest godforsaken degree in Tolkien. Right, I would close this toic, only I'm not a moderator, so I can't. __________________ HALBERETH DIAGONA I'm back! Kicks computer stupid thing for breaking down. Miss me? Didn't think so...

07-27-2002, 08:34 AM	#12
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	I was not flaming you it is just that if you interesting in Arda then it is important that you get the full impression of all the Speaking Folk, and a large part of what the Elves are is the sheer power of emotion you feel. If you believe that the Eldar don’t have emotions then you miss a large part of the art of JRR Tolkien and Ea. And I don’t know about other people in these Forums but personally i am not interested in the works for academic reasons, but as that it is a work of art. [ July 27, 2002: Message edited by: Galorme ] __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!