Khazad-dûm in the First Age - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Birdland · 07-21-2002, 07:41 PM

OK, I just got The Atlas of Middle Earth, but I can't find the answer to this question. Khazad-dûm was founded in the First Age in Beleriand, right? Now I thought the only part of Beleriand to survive its destruction were parts of the Blue Mountains and Ossiriand, which became the western-most parts of Middle Earth in the Second and Third Age.

So where exactly was Khazad-dûm, how did it survive the sinking, and how did it wind up in the middle of Middle Earth?

Elrian · 07-21-2002, 08:07 PM

Khazad-dum has always been in the Misty Mts.

[ July 21, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ]

Bêthberry · 07-21-2002, 08:12 PM

Hi Birdie,

The best answer I can make out comes from the chapter "Of the Sindar" (chapter 10) in The Silm.

Quote:

It came to pass during the second age of the captivity of Melkor that Dwarves came over the Blue Mountains of Ered Luin into Beleriand.... Far to the east were the most antient dwellings of the Naugrim [Dwarves]....Greatest of all the mansions of the Dwarves was Khazad-dum, the Dwarrowdelf, ...that was afterwards in the days of its darkness called Moria; but it was far off in the Mountains of Mist beyond the wide leagues of Eriador, and to the Eldar came but as a name and a rumour fromthe worlds of the Dwarves of the Blue Mountain.

Thus, it was not in Beleriand, but farther east, in the Misty Mountains. The dwarves had migrated west into Beleriand after founding it.

Gosh I hope this makes sense. Let's just say that I'm still taking Geo 101: Early Middle Earth. *grin*

Bethberry

07-21-2002, 07:41 PM	#1
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	Khazad-dûm in the First Age OK, I just got The Atlas of Middle Earth, but I can't find the answer to this question. Khazad-dûm was founded in the First Age in Beleriand, right? Now I thought the only part of Beleriand to survive its destruction were parts of the Blue Mountains and Ossiriand, which became the western-most parts of Middle Earth in the Second and Third Age. So where exactly was Khazad-dûm, how did it survive the sinking, and how did it wind up in the middle of Middle Earth?

07-21-2002, 08:07 PM	#2
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	Khazad-dum has always been in the Misty Mts. [ July 21, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ] __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~