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Daegwenn · 03-31-2002, 10:37 AM

Who did Elros marry?
~~Daegwenn

Olorin_The_Grey · 03-31-2002, 10:50 AM

According to my sources, Elros did not marry. I got this information from the complete Guide to Middle-earth.

Lush · 03-31-2002, 01:19 PM

But Elros was the ancestor of the Kings of Númenor! He must have married someone, she was probably left nameless (as many women are in Tolkien's works)...Unless he was a free-lovin' fella. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Mhoram · 03-31-2002, 01:24 PM

I had always assumed that Vardamir Nolimon was Elros' son, but now i'm not sure. In UT it lists the Kings of Numenor and the first sentence in each description of the kings tells who his father was. Vardamir Nolimon tells his date of birth but does not name his father.

I havn't read anything that specifically states that Elros had no wife, and I don't know of any evidence that shows clearly that Vardamir was not Elros' son.

Merendis · 03-31-2002, 01:43 PM

Vardamir was the son of Elros. In UT; Aldarion and Erendis, there is a family tree showing Elros to be Vardamir's dad, but it doesn't show his wife

Mhoram · 03-31-2002, 01:55 PM

Ahhh yes, good job. I forgot about this chart. And we can be sure that it's father/son and not simply king to king because it lists Elros' other children.

Aralaithiel · 03-31-2002, 03:40 PM

YEAH!!!! The mystery is solved! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I had just finished UT and was gonna quote my new found knowledge, but y'all beat me to it. [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] Now, to read Lost Tales I!

Daegwenn · 03-31-2002, 09:35 PM

Thank you very much for your answers. I was worried that I might have missed something when I was looking up the charts and names and I kept on drawing blanks where ever I looked. ^_^

~~Daegwenn

03-31-2002, 10:37 AM	#1
Daegwenn Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 82	If Elrond married Celebrian... Who did Elros marry? ~~Daegwenn __________________ "And still of a winter’s night, they say, when the wind is in the trees, When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas, When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor, A highwayman comes riding— Riding—Riding— A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door. Over the cobbles he clatters and clangs in the dark inn-yard. And he taps with his whip on the shutters, but all is locked and barred. He whistles a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there But the landlord’s black-eyed daughter, Bess, the landlord’s daughter, Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair" Highwayman Alfred Noyes

03-31-2002, 10:50 AM	#2
Olorin_The_Grey Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 14	According to my sources, Elros did not marry. I got this information from the complete Guide to Middle-earth. __________________ Ash nazg durbatuluk, Ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatuluk, Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul (One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them)

03-31-2002, 01:19 PM	#3
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	But Elros was the ancestor of the Kings of Númenor! He must have married someone, she was probably left nameless (as many women are in Tolkien's works)...Unless he was a free-lovin' fella. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

03-31-2002, 01:43 PM	#5
Merendis Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: An hour from Eden and the Stairway to Hell Posts: 45	Vardamir was the son of Elros. In UT; Aldarion and Erendis, there is a family tree showing Elros to be Vardamir's dad, but it doesn't show his wife __________________ Merendis Mthe Mmariner's Mwife Riding one day in the forest of the Westlands he saw a woman, whose dark hair flowed in the wind, and about her was a green cloak...and he knew her for Erendis...then suddenly he knew in himself the love that he bore her, and he felt the emptiness of his days.

03-31-2002, 03:40 PM	#7
Aralaithiel Ghost Eldaran Queen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A remote mountain in Valinor Posts: 353	YEAH!!!! The mystery is solved! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I had just finished UT and was gonna quote my new found knowledge, but y'all beat me to it. [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] Now, to read Lost Tales I! __________________ A lelyat, wen! (Quenya Elvish for "You go, girl!"

03-31-2002, 01:24 PM	#4
Mhoram Dead and Loving It Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The land of fast cars and loud guitars. Posts: 361	I had always assumed that Vardamir Nolimon was Elros' son, but now i'm not sure. In UT it lists the Kings of Numenor and the first sentence in each description of the kings tells who his father was. Vardamir Nolimon tells his date of birth but does not name his father. I havn't read anything that specifically states that Elros had no wife, and I don't know of any evidence that shows clearly that Vardamir was not Elros' son.

03-31-2002, 01:55 PM	#6
Mhoram Dead and Loving It Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The land of fast cars and loud guitars. Posts: 361	Ahhh yes, good job. I forgot about this chart. And we can be sure that it's father/son and not simply king to king because it lists Elros' other children.

03-31-2002, 09:35 PM	#8
Daegwenn Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 82	Thank you very much for your answers. I was worried that I might have missed something when I was looking up the charts and names and I kept on drawing blanks where ever I looked. ^_^ ~~Daegwenn __________________ "And still of a winter’s night, they say, when the wind is in the trees, When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas, When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor, A highwayman comes riding— Riding—Riding— A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door. Over the cobbles he clatters and clangs in the dark inn-yard. And he taps with his whip on the shutters, but all is locked and barred. He whistles a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there But the landlord’s black-eyed daughter, Bess, the landlord’s daughter, Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair" Highwayman Alfred Noyes