The Halls of Mandos and the Return of the Elves! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Cazoz · 03-31-2003, 08:16 PM

What is known about the time period of Elven rembodiment after they've spent time in the Halls of Mandos? Would the period of time spent 'dead' differ depending on the way they had died, and how they had conducted themselves when alive?

For instance, I guess that Feanor and to a lesser extent, his sons, might have been in the Halls for longer than an Elf with a valiant death, say Ecthelion. How about Elves who'd maybe made bad choices and committed crimes, but not deliberately and personally against the Valar, like Eol for example?

Are there any chronologically documented examples of this? How long did Glorfindel spend in pergatory? Didn't he return to ME at about the same time as the Istari? But how long might he have been embodied before sailing East?

This was bugging me in bed last night, thanks.

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Voralphion · 03-31-2003, 08:22 PM

Elves were in Mandos for as long as either Mandos doomed for them as a punishment, or until their spirit had resolved any issues that troubled them. Feanor and his sons for example would be there for a very long time as they committed many bad deeds while they were alive. Others who didn't do anything wrong such as the Teleri killed by the Noldor during the kinslaying probablly would have been re-embodied quickly.

Inderjit Sanghera · 04-01-2003, 01:59 AM

Feanor and Finwe would be there till the end. Namo ordained several Elven spirits to be released early because of their deeds, i.e Finrod and Glorfindel.

Deathwail · 04-01-2003, 02:02 AM

Would be fair to think that Elves like Ecthelion and Glorfindel and Beleg would come back even more powerful in spirt as they died in the act of great deeds.
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03-31-2003, 08:16 PM	#1
Cazoz Haunting Spirit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 71	The Halls of Mandos and the Return of the Elves! What is known about the time period of Elven rembodiment after they've spent time in the Halls of Mandos? Would the period of time spent 'dead' differ depending on the way they had died, and how they had conducted themselves when alive? For instance, I guess that Feanor and to a lesser extent, his sons, might have been in the Halls for longer than an Elf with a valiant death, say Ecthelion. How about Elves who'd maybe made bad choices and committed crimes, but not deliberately and personally against the Valar, like Eol for example? Are there any chronologically documented examples of this? How long did Glorfindel spend in pergatory? Didn't he return to ME at about the same time as the Istari? But how long might he have been embodied before sailing East? This was bugging me in bed last night, thanks. [ March 31, 2003: Message edited by: Cazoz ]

03-31-2003, 08:22 PM	#2
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	Elves were in Mandos for as long as either Mandos doomed for them as a punishment, or until their spirit had resolved any issues that troubled them. Feanor and his sons for example would be there for a very long time as they committed many bad deeds while they were alive. Others who didn't do anything wrong such as the Teleri killed by the Noldor during the kinslaying probablly would have been re-embodied quickly. __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

04-01-2003, 01:59 AM	#3
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Feanor and Finwe would be there till the end. Namo ordained several Elven spirits to be released early because of their deeds, i.e Finrod and Glorfindel. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

04-01-2003, 02:02 AM	#4
Deathwail Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Door of Night Posts: 99	Would be fair to think that Elves like Ecthelion and Glorfindel and Beleg would come back even more powerful in spirt as they died in the act of great deeds. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ He who arises in Might.