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Mayla Took · 04-07-2002, 10:44 PM

This is just one of my odd ponderings (so please don’t mind me). Okay, have any of you ever noticed how when an author of filmmaker is depicting the future in their works, the costumes almost always seem to relate to the renaissance era? For example, the woman’s costumes in “Dune” are dresses, which are long and beautiful. But consist of more cloth than could cover a wooly mammoth? I just can’t help but notice how the characters in fantasy films and books are dressed in clothing that has not been seen since Queen Elizabeth 1, but in reality, woman’s clothing seems to consist of increasingly less material! Does that make sense? Personally, I would just cherish to wear such elegant clothing (if society would allow). Anyway, am I totally unreasonable? Or does somebody understand what I mean.

Midgardsormen · 04-08-2002, 04:30 AM

Yes, I know what you mean...I think there are two reasons...One, most movie makers are men, and face it, most men like women in skirts!! And two, I think we actually deep down love those kind of clothes...pants and a t-shirt are practical....but so BORING! It is especially boring being a guy...if you look at those 'Medieval' costumes...they are colourful, grand, and the men can dress up and wear almost as much jewellry as the lasses. I love wearing long skirts, but do not have much occasion to wear them.
What do others think??

Sîdhrîs · 04-08-2002, 07:25 AM

In my town there's a Renaissance festival every other year, and everyone dresses up as they did in that era. I really enjoy this and I'd love wearing these clothes all year round!
Maybe the filmmakers think that the return to this kind of clothes will be a "countertrend" to this "loincloth-trend" in our time. It's also obvious that they can illustrate the differences between our time and the future by using different clothes, and as we are used to wearing few, casual clothes, they use excactly the contrary. The only problem that comes along with this is that the Renaissance clothes might not be very comfortable in the global warming [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Rimbaud · 04-08-2002, 07:39 AM

Interesting points. I have noticed the alternative trend however, which started from science fiction programming from the '60s, where men and women dress identically. The Star Trek jumpsuits are the best example. On a side note, the most foolish outfit is worn by the girls in Logan's Run (a classic bad film, if you've ever had the chance). Apparently in that future, the ladies needed to show an awful lot of skin...

But seriously, on to the original point. I think a lot of costume designers, especially those with the prediliction to join fantasy and sci-fi projects are likely to be those who bemoan the current blandness of dress. Especially among the t-shirt and jeans majority. A great many of these designers, as do I, yearn for a move away from shapeless and style-less clothing.

The most striking image of the future dramas you speak of is that all the people wear the same thing. It's as if nobody can imagine a future where individuality has a place. That is a sobering concept.

[ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: Stephanos ]

[ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: Stephanos ]

Mayla Took · 04-08-2002, 08:51 AM

Stephanos, that is a very interesting view. I had totally forgotten about the Star Trek series. But, maybe the reason that this series have men and woman dressed alike is because of the feminist reasoning of equality of the sexes. Of course I have nothing against equality, I am all for it. But, for woman wearing such elaborate clothing, it does not degrade the gender. Quite on the contrary, dresses are probably one of the most enjoyable clothing for woman to be seen in (and for me I love to wear them)!
Sîdhrîs, we also have a type of renaissance fair where people dress as the era and there are productions shown of William Shakespeare’s plays. I have never gotten a chance to make it down before, but I really would love to go!

Birdland · 04-08-2002, 09:43 AM

I see no reason for characters in Sci-Fi films to wear vaguely Elizabethan dress, except it is an alternative to the tin-foil unisex look, so they went for it.

People in fantasy novels usually live in pre-industrial times, without central heating, so layers of clothes make practical sense, Castles were notoriously draughty and cold, and traveling outside in the elements would necessitate layers of clothes for protection.

I'm sure if for some reason our technology failed us, people of this age would soon "cover up."

One thing I did learn while on my first primitive camping trip, where the nearest flush toilet was 10 miles away. Fashion aside, women for most of history had a very good practical reason for wearing skirts! (Any lady in the same situation will know what I'm talkin' about. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] )

[ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: Birdland ]

Mayla Took · 04-08-2002, 09:48 AM

Ha ha ha! Well put Birdland!

Niere-Teleliniel · 04-08-2002, 07:19 PM

I argee! Thats why I LOOOOVE acting (although when we did Shakespeare I was a guy and had to wear balloon pants that stuck out 3ft on each side) If it were up to me, I'd go around as an elven maiden all the time, although my family would probably shun me [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]. I wish elaborate skirts and dresses were still the style [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I'd trade my jeans in in an instant! (Someone do me a favor and create a National Medieval Costume Month!)

Mayla Took · 04-11-2002, 08:16 PM

Amen Niere-Teleliniel! I would totaly dress in character if I had a choice!!

ElanorGamgee · 04-11-2002, 08:26 PM

It's funny, when I was really young I wanted to wear the beautiful, elaborate dresses that princesses in stories wear, and now I'm starting to wish it again. It would be so much fun [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Mayla Took · 04-11-2002, 08:30 PM

You know, maybe we should all just start wearing beautiful clothing to start a new fashion!! You think it would work? Ha ha.

ElanorGamgee · 04-11-2002, 08:36 PM

Well, we might succeed in getting a lot of strange looks and being shunned by society... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Birdland · 04-11-2002, 09:13 PM

I'd just be happy if people would start wearing decent hats again. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Mayla Took · 04-11-2002, 09:29 PM

I think we could only hope for people to start wearing some decent clothing! Lol

Nevtalathiel · 04-12-2002, 11:28 AM

It sounds strange, but if I'm ever rich and unmarried, i intend to buy a hill and build a castle on top of it, with no heating, running water mod cons etc. and live there as if i lived in the renaissance. I know it sounds wierd, but I'd love it (at least fro some of the time). I might have to have a real house too, in case i was feeling "normal"!

Araen · 04-12-2002, 12:12 PM

I love elegant dressed. I love my jeans too but there is something about being dressed up in that type of clothing that you can't beat. I would dress like that if the clothing wasn't so expensive....

Ms. Took · 04-12-2002, 04:38 PM

I totally agree. I would love to run around in a long elaborate dress, and does anybody else wish that capes were in style. I think capes are really cool.

VanimaEdhel · 04-13-2002, 05:07 PM

Actually: one thing that I have always desired is a tower. Just a tower. No castle (although it would be nice), but just a biiiiiiiiiig, taaaaaaall tower with a staircase in the middle and rooms on the side. I would live there happily!

And: I wish I could dress as an Elven maiden, personally. I like the dresses that I imagine Arwen and Galadriel wearing: pretty, flowy, light dresses.

Daegwenn · 04-13-2002, 08:58 PM

Our school production is called 'Chickenheart' It is about a tailor from the 1340's who falls in love with a noble woman but the noble woman must wed a tax collector or else she and her family will loose their estates. (I play the whiny, waily, loud mother of the noble lady...my coolest line is: I had this thing about knights in shining armor. Nice to hold, lovely to look at but they always came back in boxes before they got too old.)

It is pretty darn hard to make a costume from that era, especially since it is only a high school play and they think that hockey's more important. (Am I bitter? You bet your left toe I am!! I could drone on and on about it...but I won't [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] ) So, the cast has to put their own resources together to get up the money and materials to make it all come to life from paper. In order to keep it simple, we figured we would just stick with the renaissance. The make of the dresses are definetly easier to make than one from the 14th century!!! I mean all those ruffles!! That's inhumane!!

When we do the play, I am gonna get pictures taken, I will put one up so you can all laugh at me. -_- Just not too hard, I don't want anyone hurting themselves (or am I giving myself way too much credit [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] ).

I heard that my family clan actually has a plot of land with a castle on it. It was from my mother's side of the family, and the main head of the clan (Or the ones that are most entitled to it) live in Boston. Ah well, it's makes for pretty cool dinner conversation.

I would like a log cabin in the middle of the woods, far, far away from any civilization. That would be cool. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

~~Daegwenn

Nevtalathiel · 04-15-2002, 03:57 AM

VanimaEdhel, when I have a castle, do you want to come and live near me, so that people don't think I'm too wierd! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Sindalómiel · 04-15-2002, 04:17 AM

Can I live in the castle too, and wear gorgeous dresses?

Nevtalathiel · 04-15-2002, 04:18 AM

Yes come along, then we can get a reputation as "those mad women who live in the castle" what fun!

One day, my "episode" will be over and I'll be fine again, don't worry!

Sindalómiel · 04-15-2002, 05:28 AM

Yay! I'd love an excuse to dress in beautiful princess dresses and live in a castle.
And who cares if people think we're mad? We're happy living in our little fantasy world where we're all beautiful Elf princesses or something. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Nevtalathiel · 04-15-2002, 05:33 AM

Yeah, my mental world is so much nicer than the real one, surely its better to live in a "happy land" than a real one! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Who's mad now??? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

The-Elf-Herself · 04-15-2002, 08:41 AM

I'm of a different opinion. While I like soft flowy dresses and all the acessories that go with them, if I had a choice I'd go around in the gear of an elven scout. Very comfortable, all in greens, browns & greys(which I look rather good in), and I'd get to wear a cloak! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] I've always liked long light cloaks; now there's a trend that I'd like to see. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

04-07-2002, 10:44 PM	#1
Mayla Took Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 152	Just a thought.... This is just one of my odd ponderings (so please don’t mind me). Okay, have any of you ever noticed how when an author of filmmaker is depicting the future in their works, the costumes almost always seem to relate to the renaissance era? For example, the woman’s costumes in “Dune” are dresses, which are long and beautiful. But consist of more cloth than could cover a wooly mammoth? I just can’t help but notice how the characters in fantasy films and books are dressed in clothing that has not been seen since Queen Elizabeth 1, but in reality, woman’s clothing seems to consist of increasingly less material! Does that make sense? Personally, I would just cherish to wear such elegant clothing (if society would allow). Anyway, am I totally unreasonable? Or does somebody understand what I mean. __________________ Good Things Come in Small Packages. (And don't you forget it!) Pippin:"What is that?!?" Merry:"This, my friend, is a pint!" Pippin:"It comes in PINTS?!?....I'm getting one!" "Don't let your heads get too big for your hats! But if you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive." Bilbo to Merry and Pippin "Fool of a Took! This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!" Gandalf to Pippin in Moria E-mail me at mailto:ThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.comThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.com</A> Oh, and please rate me. THANKS!

04-08-2002, 04:30 AM	#2
Midgardsormen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 29	Yes, I know what you mean...I think there are two reasons...One, most movie makers are men, and face it, most men like women in skirts!! And two, I think we actually deep down love those kind of clothes...pants and a t-shirt are practical....but so BORING! It is especially boring being a guy...if you look at those 'Medieval' costumes...they are colourful, grand, and the men can dress up and wear almost as much jewellry as the lasses. I love wearing long skirts, but do not have much occasion to wear them. What do others think?? __________________ Midgardsormen

04-08-2002, 07:39 AM	#4
Rimbaud The Perilous Poet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Heart of the matter Posts: 1,062	Interesting points. I have noticed the alternative trend however, which started from science fiction programming from the '60s, where men and women dress identically. The Star Trek jumpsuits are the best example. On a side note, the most foolish outfit is worn by the girls in Logan's Run (a classic bad film, if you've ever had the chance). Apparently in that future, the ladies needed to show an awful lot of skin... But seriously, on to the original point. I think a lot of costume designers, especially those with the prediliction to join fantasy and sci-fi projects are likely to be those who bemoan the current blandness of dress. Especially among the t-shirt and jeans majority. A great many of these designers, as do I, yearn for a move away from shapeless and style-less clothing. The most striking image of the future dramas you speak of is that all the people wear the same thing. It's as if nobody can imagine a future where individuality has a place. That is a sobering concept. [ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: Stephanos ] [ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: Stephanos ] __________________ And all the rest is literature

04-08-2002, 08:51 AM	#5
Mayla Took Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 152	Stephanos, that is a very interesting view. I had totally forgotten about the Star Trek series. But, maybe the reason that this series have men and woman dressed alike is because of the feminist reasoning of equality of the sexes. Of course I have nothing against equality, I am all for it. But, for woman wearing such elaborate clothing, it does not degrade the gender. Quite on the contrary, dresses are probably one of the most enjoyable clothing for woman to be seen in (and for me I love to wear them)! Sîdhrîs, we also have a type of renaissance fair where people dress as the era and there are productions shown of William Shakespeare’s plays. I have never gotten a chance to make it down before, but I really would love to go! __________________ Good Things Come in Small Packages. (And don't you forget it!) Pippin:"What is that?!?" Merry:"This, my friend, is a pint!" Pippin:"It comes in PINTS?!?....I'm getting one!" "Don't let your heads get too big for your hats! But if you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive." Bilbo to Merry and Pippin "Fool of a Took! This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!" Gandalf to Pippin in Moria E-mail me at mailto:ThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.comThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.com</A> Oh, and please rate me. THANKS!

04-08-2002, 09:48 AM	#7
Mayla Took Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 152	Ha ha ha! Well put Birdland! __________________ Good Things Come in Small Packages. (And don't you forget it!) Pippin:"What is that?!?" Merry:"This, my friend, is a pint!" Pippin:"It comes in PINTS?!?....I'm getting one!" "Don't let your heads get too big for your hats! But if you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive." Bilbo to Merry and Pippin "Fool of a Took! This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!" Gandalf to Pippin in Moria E-mail me at mailto:ThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.comThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.com</A> Oh, and please rate me. THANKS!

04-08-2002, 07:25 AM	#3
Sîdhrîs Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 60	In my town there's a Renaissance festival every other year, and everyone dresses up as they did in that era. I really enjoy this and I'd love wearing these clothes all year round! Maybe the filmmakers think that the return to this kind of clothes will be a "countertrend" to this "loincloth-trend" in our time. It's also obvious that they can illustrate the differences between our time and the future by using different clothes, and as we are used to wearing few, casual clothes, they use excactly the contrary. The only problem that comes along with this is that the Renaissance clothes might not be very comfortable in the global warming [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

04-08-2002, 09:43 AM	#6
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	I see no reason for characters in Sci-Fi films to wear vaguely Elizabethan dress, except it is an alternative to the tin-foil unisex look, so they went for it. People in fantasy novels usually live in pre-industrial times, without central heating, so layers of clothes make practical sense, Castles were notoriously draughty and cold, and traveling outside in the elements would necessitate layers of clothes for protection. I'm sure if for some reason our technology failed us, people of this age would soon "cover up." One thing I did learn while on my first primitive camping trip, where the nearest flush toilet was 10 miles away. Fashion aside, women for most of history had a very good practical reason for wearing skirts! (Any lady in the same situation will know what I'm talkin' about. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ) [ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: Birdland ]

04-08-2002, 07:19 PM	#8
Niere-Teleliniel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a messy room on the third floor. Posts: 67	I argee! Thats why I LOOOOVE acting (although when we did Shakespeare I was a guy and had to wear balloon pants that stuck out 3ft on each side) If it were up to me, I'd go around as an elven maiden all the time, although my family would probably shun me [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]. I wish elaborate skirts and dresses were still the style [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I'd trade my jeans in in an instant! (Someone do me a favor and create a National Medieval Costume Month!) __________________ He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.... ~Douglas Adams

04-11-2002, 08:16 PM	#9
Mayla Took Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 152	Amen Niere-Teleliniel! I would totaly dress in character if I had a choice!! __________________ Good Things Come in Small Packages. (And don't you forget it!) Pippin:"What is that?!?" Merry:"This, my friend, is a pint!" Pippin:"It comes in PINTS?!?....I'm getting one!" "Don't let your heads get too big for your hats! But if you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive." Bilbo to Merry and Pippin "Fool of a Took! This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!" Gandalf to Pippin in Moria E-mail me at mailto:ThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.comThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.com</A> Oh, and please rate me. THANKS!

04-11-2002, 08:26 PM	#10
ElanorGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 314	It's funny, when I was really young I wanted to wear the beautiful, elaborate dresses that princesses in stories wear, and now I'm starting to wish it again. It would be so much fun [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Soli Deo Gloria

04-11-2002, 08:30 PM	#11
Mayla Took Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 152	You know, maybe we should all just start wearing beautiful clothing to start a new fashion!! You think it would work? Ha ha. __________________ Good Things Come in Small Packages. (And don't you forget it!) Pippin:"What is that?!?" Merry:"This, my friend, is a pint!" Pippin:"It comes in PINTS?!?....I'm getting one!" "Don't let your heads get too big for your hats! But if you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive." Bilbo to Merry and Pippin "Fool of a Took! This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!" Gandalf to Pippin in Moria E-mail me at mailto:ThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.comThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.com</A> Oh, and please rate me. THANKS!

04-11-2002, 08:36 PM	#12
ElanorGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 314	Well, we might succeed in getting a lot of strange looks and being shunned by society... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Soli Deo Gloria

04-11-2002, 09:13 PM	#13
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	I'd just be happy if people would start wearing decent hats again. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

04-11-2002, 09:29 PM	#14
Mayla Took Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Shire Posts: 152	I think we could only hope for people to start wearing some decent clothing! Lol __________________ Good Things Come in Small Packages. (And don't you forget it!) Pippin:"What is that?!?" Merry:"This, my friend, is a pint!" Pippin:"It comes in PINTS?!?....I'm getting one!" "Don't let your heads get too big for your hats! But if you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive." Bilbo to Merry and Pippin "Fool of a Took! This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!" Gandalf to Pippin in Moria E-mail me at mailto:ThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.comThirdAgeHobbit@hotmail.com</A> Oh, and please rate me. THANKS!

04-12-2002, 11:28 AM	#15
Nevtalathiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The depths of delusion Posts: 374	It sounds strange, but if I'm ever rich and unmarried, i intend to buy a hill and build a castle on top of it, with no heating, running water mod cons etc. and live there as if i lived in the renaissance. I know it sounds wierd, but I'd love it (at least fro some of the time). I might have to have a real house too, in case i was feeling "normal"! __________________ "You can go a long way with a smile. You can go even further with a smile and a gun." - Al Capone

04-12-2002, 12:12 PM	#16
Araen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 70	I love elegant dressed. I love my jeans too but there is something about being dressed up in that type of clothing that you can't beat. I would dress like that if the clothing wasn't so expensive.... __________________ "Where is the horse and the rider, where is the horn that was blowing, they have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow, the days are damned in the west? behind the hills? there are shadows... "

04-12-2002, 04:38 PM	#17
Ms. Took Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Great Smials Posts: 63	I totally agree. I would love to run around in a long elaborate dress, and does anybody else wish that capes were in style. I think capes are really cool. __________________ We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars -Oscar Wilde Check out my website. http://groups.msn.com/pippinfanclub

04-13-2002, 05:07 PM	#18
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	Actually: one thing that I have always desired is a tower. Just a tower. No castle (although it would be nice), but just a biiiiiiiiiig, taaaaaaall tower with a staircase in the middle and rooms on the side. I would live there happily! And: I wish I could dress as an Elven maiden, personally. I like the dresses that I imagine Arwen and Galadriel wearing: pretty, flowy, light dresses. __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

04-13-2002, 08:58 PM	#19
Daegwenn Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 82	Our school production is called 'Chickenheart' It is about a tailor from the 1340's who falls in love with a noble woman but the noble woman must wed a tax collector or else she and her family will loose their estates. (I play the whiny, waily, loud mother of the noble lady...my coolest line is: I had this thing about knights in shining armor. Nice to hold, lovely to look at but they always came back in boxes before they got too old.) It is pretty darn hard to make a costume from that era, especially since it is only a high school play and they think that hockey's more important. (Am I bitter? You bet your left toe I am!! I could drone on and on about it...but I won't [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] ) So, the cast has to put their own resources together to get up the money and materials to make it all come to life from paper. In order to keep it simple, we figured we would just stick with the renaissance. The make of the dresses are definetly easier to make than one from the 14th century!!! I mean all those ruffles!! That's inhumane!! When we do the play, I am gonna get pictures taken, I will put one up so you can all laugh at me. -_- Just not too hard, I don't want anyone hurting themselves (or am I giving myself way too much credit [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] ). I heard that my family clan actually has a plot of land with a castle on it. It was from my mother's side of the family, and the main head of the clan (Or the ones that are most entitled to it) live in Boston. Ah well, it's makes for pretty cool dinner conversation. I would like a log cabin in the middle of the woods, far, far away from any civilization. That would be cool. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ~~Daegwenn __________________ "And still of a winter’s night, they say, when the wind is in the trees, When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas, When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor, A highwayman comes riding— Riding—Riding— A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door. Over the cobbles he clatters and clangs in the dark inn-yard. And he taps with his whip on the shutters, but all is locked and barred. He whistles a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there But the landlord’s black-eyed daughter, Bess, the landlord’s daughter, Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair" Highwayman Alfred Noyes

04-15-2002, 03:57 AM	#20
Nevtalathiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The depths of delusion Posts: 374	VanimaEdhel, when I have a castle, do you want to come and live near me, so that people don't think I'm too wierd! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ "You can go a long way with a smile. You can go even further with a smile and a gun." - Al Capone

04-15-2002, 04:17 AM	#21
Sindalómiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 109	Can I live in the castle too, and wear gorgeous dresses? __________________ http://www.webspawner.com/users/rineee/Sidhwen.jpg An Eru mîriant i-Ardhon E-anniant În Iôn Er-edonnant, an er-pen aphadiant ú-gwanno, garir i-guil uireb

04-15-2002, 04:18 AM	#22
Nevtalathiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The depths of delusion Posts: 374	Yes come along, then we can get a reputation as "those mad women who live in the castle" what fun! One day, my "episode" will be over and I'll be fine again, don't worry! __________________ "You can go a long way with a smile. You can go even further with a smile and a gun." - Al Capone

04-15-2002, 05:28 AM	#23
Sindalómiel Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 109	Yay! I'd love an excuse to dress in beautiful princess dresses and live in a castle. And who cares if people think we're mad? We're happy living in our little fantasy world where we're all beautiful Elf princesses or something. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ http://www.webspawner.com/users/rineee/Sidhwen.jpg An Eru mîriant i-Ardhon E-anniant În Iôn Er-edonnant, an er-pen aphadiant ú-gwanno, garir i-guil uireb

04-15-2002, 05:33 AM	#24
Nevtalathiel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The depths of delusion Posts: 374	Yeah, my mental world is so much nicer than the real one, surely its better to live in a "happy land" than a real one! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] Who's mad now??? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ "You can go a long way with a smile. You can go even further with a smile and a gun." - Al Capone

04-15-2002, 08:41 AM	#25
The-Elf-Herself Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mithlond Posts: 74	I'm of a different opinion. While I like soft flowy dresses and all the acessories that go with them, if I had a choice I'd go around in the gear of an elven scout. Very comfortable, all in greens, browns & greys(which I look rather good in), and I'd get to wear a cloak! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] I've always liked long light cloaks; now there's a trend that I'd like to see. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Go here http://www.geocities.com/sunlit_rain/home_page for songs translated into elvish.~Eruantale Aranìs Oronlamba~