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10-18-2017, 05:29 PM | #1 |
Wight
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New Lands Settled?
After the sinking of numenor and changing of the world's shape new lands were created in place of Aman and the Land of the Sun.
Apparently Mariners did reach these lands and were rather disappointed as they were mundane and mortal unlike Aman. My question is-these lands were surely uninhabited at the time of their creation and if Gondorian and Arnorian sailors(and perhaps easterlings coming from the other direction) could reach them why weren't they settled? Or were they ever settled? As an aside some fans have interpreted these lands as the Americas or what would become the Americas-yet apparently during the third age reaching them was possible. |
10-18-2017, 08:07 PM | #2 | |
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Is there any evidence that they weren't? By somebody, if not the Dśnedain? I don't think the text says anything either way, unless I'm forgetting something.
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04-17-2018, 06:51 AM | #3 | |
Overshadowed Eagle
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If Arda is Earth, then we know who settled the Americas, and more importantly, who Tolkien would have thought of as doing so. The 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica's article on America says this:
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The choice then becomes whether the Easterlings - perhaps some group fleeing Sauron, further into the east - crossed an ice bridge in the north-east, or whether the Northmen of Middle-earth struck out west, passing over the ruins of Beleriand to reach new lands. The former seems more likely - the suspects for the latter would have to be the Forodwaith, who don't come across as probable explorers. But you never know. Memory says that Tolkien placed the end of the Third Age around 6000 years ago, which would make the appearance of the New World about 9000 years ago. That's slightly too recent for the Clovis Culture, until recently the dominant theory on the first American settlers; but it's within margin of error for what people may have thought a hundred years ago. Of course, the huge problem with merging Middle-earth with prehistory is that the Clovis Culture was a stone-age society lacking any of the kinds of technology that, eg, Sauron would've given to his armies during his great war with the survivors of Numenor... maybe they shot all their swords into the sun? hS |
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