toms outlet

[carpinteyroxhc]

i tom

i sell stuff

buy tom stuff

[Aganzir]

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[Nerwen]

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[Estelyn Telcontar]

Spammer banned, but the following posts are worth leaving up for a day or so - enjoy!

[Galadriel55]

i talk in sentences of 3 syllables or less.

make that:

i tlk 'n sntncs 'f three sllbles or lss.

[alatar]

Originally Posted by carpinteyroxhc

i tom

i sell stuff

buy tom stuff

Thanks for banning the spam Esty, as with advertising like that, how could anyone possibly resist?

i esty

i ban spam

i ban tom

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by alatar

Thanks for banning the spam Esty, as with advertising like that, how could anyone possibly resist?

Well, you know, some try to do it in chinese...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by alatar

Thanks for banning the spam Esty, as with advertising like that, how could anyone possibly resist?

i esty

i ban spam

i ban tom

I was disappointed when I first opened this thread though, because I thought for a second that it would be about Tom Bombadil and it obviously wasn't.

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I was disappointed when I first opened this thread though, because I thought for a second that it would be about Tom Bombadil and it obviously wasn't.

Well I was disappointed that this wannabe Tom--erm, "i Tom"--lacks the finesse with language which the original Tom has.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Well I was disappointed that this wannabe Tom--erm, "i Tom"--lacks the finesse with language which the original Tom has.

I tom,
sell tom tom
buy bombadillo!

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I tom,
sell tom tom
buy bombadillo!

Or perhaps:

"I Tom
Buy Tom
Sell spamadillo" ?

[Mithalwen]

Well I think that this Tom is a better poet..touch of the William Carlos Williams quality.

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Well I think that this Tom is a better poet..touch of the William Carlos Williams quality.

Do I foresee a duel--(red) wheelbarrows at dawn?

Poetry of course is 9/10ths taste, but for me the really interesting aspect of the original Bombadillo--well, there are several--is the fact that even his prose is rhythmic, metred. Nonsense as he is, there's quite a bit to old Tom if one scratches the surface, like much in Tolkien.

[Nerwen]

I think Mith has a point, though. There is something to be said for the simple directness with which “i tom” conveys his message...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

This is one of the reasons I love the Downs so much - our witty members can take trash and make it so enjoyable that it turns into a jewel of humour!

[Mithalwen]

Bombadil's poetry is sub~vogon and makes Pam Ayers seem like TS Eliot in comparison.

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Estelyn Telcontar

Spammer banned, but the following posts are worth leaving up for a day or so - enjoy!

Couldn't the thread be left up as a worthy rival to the other spambot thread? The Lucy one, I think it was?

[Inziladun]

You know, why should this be all about Bombadil? There's another Tom in Middle-earth!

Tom the Troll says: "What's a spambot anyways? And can yer cook 'em?"

[Pervinca Took]

"Up came Tom with his big boots on
Said he to Troll, "Pray, what is yon?"

Was the Tom of Sam's troll-song actually Tom Bombadil? I'd never thought of that before.

Also, I'm sure at least one of the Cottons was called Tom. (Maybe short for Tolman; I don't recall exactly).

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

"Up came Tom with his big boots on
Said he to Troll, "Pray, what is yon?"

Was the Tom of Sam's troll-song actually Tom Bombadil? I'd never thought of that before.

Also, I'm sure at least one of the Cottons was called Tom. (Maybe short for Tolman; I don't recall exactly).

Where was the discussion about Tom Bombadil's influence on Sam? Was this mentioned there, or is it something I was going to post but never did?

Because when B-berry linked Sam's sudden bursts of poetry to Tom Bombadil, the choice of the name 'Tom' in the poem seems hardly coincidental.

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Where was the discussion about Tom Bombadil's influence on Sam? Was this mentioned there, or is it something I was going to post but never did?

Because when B-berry linked Sam's sudden bursts of poetry to Tom Bombadil, the choice of the name 'Tom' in the poem seems hardly coincidental.

Well, there was my paper on "Tolkien and Nonsense" at RotR *coughs* where Tom's influence on Sam was discussed and I do believe I have mentioned it once or twice here on the Downs.

It is no accident that Tom is linked with folk nonsense verse. (And for that reason--the relation of Bombadil to early folk nonsense--I would reject Mithalwen's claim that Tom's poetry is "sub~vogon".)

Originally Posted by Inzil

You know, why should this be all about Bombadil? There's another Tom in Middle-earth!

Tom the Troll says: "What's a spambot anyways? And can yer cook 'em?"

By jove, you've got it!

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Well, there was my paper on "Tolkien and Nonsense" at RotR *coughs* where Tom's influence on Sam was discussed and I do believe I have mentioned it once or twice here on the Downs.

Oh yes! And more recently in some thread here, I believe - anyway I managed to connect it to you despite my rubbish memory.

[Pervinca Took]

Tom B wouldn't have a "nuncle," I suppose - "He would fall, last as he was first," I think Elrond says. And not in the sense that Lear's Fool uses the term, either, since he serves no-one. But in nonsense rhyme such things wouldn't matter.

[Galadriel55]

You guys don't get anything! He's neither Tom B, Tom the troll, or Sam's Tom! He's actually Gollum. He just has a conflict of identities. One side of his character says, "i tom". The other side responds immediately, "i sell stuff". How can someone named Tom also be named Sell Stuff? Nay, this here is clearly a battle between the Gollum and the Smeagol!

[Aiwendil]

I note that according to the OED, 'tom' can be a verb meaning 'to practise prostitution' - which could perhaps also be euphemistically described as 'selling stuff'. Clearly, then, the post was intended as a kind of confession; 'carpinteyroxhc' (probably a pseudonym) usually keeps his/her occupation secret but needed an 'outlet'.

Edit: I never would have guessed my 2,000th post would be in a thread started by a spambot.

[Mithalwen]

Oh come on Behberry! Ombadil gives the impressiion he chooses his gaudy wardrobe to fit his ghastly rhymes.

There is another Tom. One of the fringe casualties of the war of the ring at Bree, Tom Pickthorn and not forgetting Tomfools whether Tooks or chief's men... or tom tap in Moria

[tomtom]

bombadil not poet
tom poet
tom poetbot
buy tom verse

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Oh come on Behberry! Ombadil gives the impressiion he chooses his gaudy wardrobe to fit his ghastly rhymes.

Oh come on Mithalwen!

Tinkly Zinky
Tilly-loo!
and Yonghy-Bonghy-Bo
Uncle Arly

How pleasant to know Mr. Bombadil.

But I do rather like "Ombadil". Om, the universal mantra.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Oh come on Mithalwen!

Tinkly Zinky
Tilly-loo!
and nghy-Bonghy-Bo
Uncle Arly

How pleasant to know Mr. Bombadil.

But I do rather like "Ombadil". Om, the universal mantra.

Still can't type well on micro keyboard and hate Bombadil ... and his stupid poetry.

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Still can't type well on micro keyboard and hate Bombadil ... and his stupid poetry.

Well, I'd say it's just plain silly, but I won't quibble with you.

Here's a bit more from Mr. Lear that might provide more nonsense context.

Originally Posted by Mr and Mrs Discobbolos

So Mr and Mrs Discobbolos
Stood up, and began to sing,
'Far away from hurry and strife
Here we will pass the rest of life,
Ding a dong, ding dong, ding!
We want no knives nor forks nor chairs,
No tables nor carpets nor household cares,
From worry of life we've fled -
'Oh! W! X! Y! Z!
There is no more trouble ahead
Sorrow or any such thing -
For Mr and Mrs Discobbolos!'

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by tomtom

bombadil not poet
tom poet
tom poetbot
buy tom verse

OK, out with it. Who's having all this fun? Nerwen? Agan? alatar? ...Inzil???

[Mithalwen]

Lear is just as bad then. Id prefer the ning nang nong.

Galadriel it is quite obvious that tomtom is in league with our friend from San Seriffe the Herald of Mandos

[Herald_of_Mandos]

Sprung! Curses!

[Mithalwen]

Shh we will only speak of it in a small light font. But always happy to see you especially off season. Pineapples and swarfega all round!

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

OK, out with it. Who's having all this fun? Nerwen? Agan? alatar? ...Inzil???

Not me, but I've been asking myself the same question! Especially as the original poster didn't actually speak in rhyme - I was assuming a modly intervention gave them the gift of poetry.

[Mithalwen]

The poetry of the original wa perceived, by me as it happens, rather than intentional I think..like that of Donald Rumsfeld