Phantasy Thread: Arda Cup Football 2009

[the phantom]

Welcome to the Phantasy Team Competition!

You will select your team members from the rosters available below, and will be awarded points according to how your players fare in their tournament games.

You must have one GK (goal keeper) and then you can use one of the following formations found below. (Formations listed as DF-MF-FW)

• 5-4-1
• 4-5-1
• 3-6-1
• 4-4-2
• 4-3-3

In other words, if you choose 4-4-2, then you want to place 4 defenders, 4 midfielders, and 2 fowards on your team along with the goalie of your choice.

In addition, during group play you may not choose more than 3 players from one team.

Rules for gaining points are as follows.

• Goal by FW- 4 pts
• Goal by MF- 5 pts
• Goal by DF- 6 pts
• Assist- 3 pts
• Shutout, GK- 4 pts
• Shutout, DF- 4 pts
• Shutout, MF- 1 pt
• Allows 1 goal, GK- 2 pts
• Allows 1 goal, DF- 2 pts
• 3 GK saves- 2 pts
• Yellow Card- -1 pts
• Red Card- -3 pts

And just like last time you can gain extra points for pretourney and playoff predictions!

And this year we're going to have a star system for drafting your team. Players with a star by them are considered by Arda Kicker Magazine to be solid players with a higher liklihood of scoring than other players at their position. Players with 2 stars are the cream of the crop, and are the most likely to gain points at their position. The team they play on and their name recognition can contribute slightly to their star status. And of course, there is no guarantee that star players will score more. It's just more likely.

The team that you select may not exceed SIX total stars. (number may change after conversation with co-mods, and it might go up for the playoffs as well)

If you have any questions, please ask. It's not as complicated as it looks.

Rosters and groupings coming up next!

Note on the rosters- If a MF or DF is listed lower down the roster (towards the FWs), then they are more likely to be involved in the offense than those MFs or DFs listed higher up towards the GK. Of course, there is no guarantee MFs closer to FWs will score more, but their chances are generally better.

Note on trades- After the first two rounds of group play, you can draft a completely new team. Unlimited trades. After the third and final round of group play, you are allowed six trades. After each playoff round, you are allowed only two trades. Do not under any circumstances edit your old teams once play has started. If you want to trade someone, make a new post stating the trade and list your new team.

[the phantom]

Here are the teams and groups for the tournament. The teams with (H) next to them will be hosting their group games.

GROUP A
ALQUALONDE
ANGBAND
MINAS TIRITH
MORIA (H)

GROUP B
ARNOR
HELM'S DEEP
MIRKWOOD (H)
NARGOTHROND

GROUP C
GONDOLIN
HITHLUM
ISENGARD (H)
MINAS MORGUL

GROUP D
EREBOR (H)
EREGION
MORDOR
OSGILIATH

GROUP E
ARMENELOS
DORIATH
DOR LOMIN
LOTHLORIEN (H)

GROUP F
DORTHONION
EDORAS
SHIRE (H)
TANIQUETIL

GROUP G
BRETHIL
GONDOR
TOL IN GAURHOTH
TUNA (H)

GROUP H
AMON SUL
BREE (H)
ROMENNA
VALIMAR

[the phantom]

And here are the complete rosters, with stars included.

ALQUALONDE
-GK- Olwe
-DF- Lindo
-DF- Elwing
*DF- Frodo
-MF- Eriol
-MF- Earwen
-MF- Amandil
-MF- Idril
*MF- Uinen
*FW- Cirdan
*FW- Osse

AMON SUL
*GK- Aragost
-DF- Aravir
-DF- Arador
-DF- Aravorn
*DF- Araglas
-MF- Arahad
-MF- Aranarth
-MF- Arasuil
-MF- Arathorn
*MF- Arahael
*FW- Elendil

ANGBAND
*GK- Carcharoth
-DF- Balrog #5
-DF- Ulfast
*DF- Uldor
*DF- Drauglin
-MF- Telvildo
-MF- Gwindor
-MF- Thuringwethil
*MF- Hurin
*FW- Maeglin
**FW- Ancalagon

ARMENELOS
*GK- Tar Atanamir
-DF- Ar Zimrathan
*DF- Tar Cirytan
*DF- Tar Telperien
-MF- Tar Calmacil
-MF- Ar Gimilzor
-MF- Tar Ancalimon
*MF- Ar Adunakhor
-FW- Tar Minastir
*FW- Sauron
*FW- Ar Pharazon

ARNOR
*GK- Arvedui
*DF- Tarcil
*DF- Elendur
*DF- Earendur
*DF- Tarandor
-MF- Argeleb
-MF- Eldacar
-MF- Valandur
-MF- Arantar
*FW- Isildur
-FW- Araphor

BREE
*GK- Old Man Willow
-DF- Butterbur
-DF- Pippin
*DF- Merry
-MF- Bob
-MF- Nob
-MF- Harry
-MF- Goldberry
*MF- Barrow-Wight
-FW- Ferny
**FW- Tom Bombadil

BRETHIL
*GK- Hardang
-DF- Asgon
-DF- Hundad
-DF- Handir
-MF- Brandir
-MF- Manthor
-MF- Dorlas
-MF- Halmir
-MF- Hunthor
*MF- Haleth
-FW- Haldir

DORIATH
*GK- Melian
-DF- Ellurid
-DF- Ellurin
-DF- Saeros
*DF- Nimloth
-MF- Daeron
-MF- Nellas
-MF- Dior
*MF- Elwe
*MF- Eol
*FW- Maglor

DOR-LOMIN
-GK- Huor
-DF- Gundor
-DF- Gloredhel
-DF- Galdor
*DF- Marach
-MF- Morwen
-MF- Nienor
-MF- Hador
-MF- Tuor
*FW- Beleg
**FW- Turin

DORTHONION
*GK- Beor
-DF- Belegund
-DF- Baragund
-DF- Gorlim
-DF- Rian
-MF- Bregor
-MF- Bregolas
-MF- Andreth
*MF- Aegnor
*MF- Angrod
*FW- Barahir

EDORAS
-GK- Theoden
-DF- Frealaf
-DF- Elfwine
*DF- Shadowfax
*DF- Felarof
-MF- Brego
-MF- Aldor
-MF- Thengel
-FW- Eowyn
-FW- Eomer
*FW- Eorl

EREBOR
-GK- Bain
-DF- Thrain
-DF- Brand
-DF- Girion
*DF- Beorn
-MF- Nain
-MF- Dain
-MF- Bard
-MF- Nazgul #7
-FW- Bolg
**FW- Smaug

EREGION
**GK- Elrond
*DF- Gildor
*DF- Erestor
*DF- Celebrimbor
**DF- Gandalf
-MF- Valandil
-MF- Elladen
-MF- Elrohir
-MF- Earendil
*MF- Gil Galad
*FW- Glorfindel

GONDOLIN
*GK- Rog
-DF- Salgant
-DF- Elenwe
*DF- Galdor
*DF- Turgon
-MF- Voronwe
-MF- Penlod
-MF- Duilin
*MF- Egalmoth
*FW- Gothmog
*FW- Ecthelion

GONDOR
-GK- Calmacil
-DF- Valacar
-DF- Anardil
-DF- Atanatar I
-MF- Minalcar
-MF- Ioreth
-MF- Dervorin
-MF- Hirluin
*MF- Imrahil
*FW- Faramir
*FW- Boromir II

HELM’S DEEP
*GK- Gram
-DF- Theodred
-DF- Folcwine
-DF- Freawine
-DF- Brytta
-MF- Deor
-MF- Eomund
-MF- Folca
-MF- Hama
-MF- Haleth
*FW- Helm

HITHLUM
*GK- Huan
*DF- Annael
*DF- Balrog #1
*DF- Caranthir
*DF- Ulmo
-MF- Finrod
-MF- Fingon
*MF- Fingolfin
-FW- Aredhel
*FW- Maedhros
**FW- Feanor

ISENGARD
*GK- Lugdush
-DF- Wormtongue
-DF- Lurtz
-DF- Mauhur
-MF- Skinbark
-MF- Beechbone
-MF- Wulf
-MF- Freca
*MF- Saruman
-FW- Quickbeam
-FW- Ugluk

LOTHLORIEN
**GK- Galadriel
-DF- Orophin
-DF- Eldarion
*DF- Rumil
*DF- Amroth
-MF- Gimli
-MF- Celebrian
-MF- Nimrodel
-MF- Arwen
*FW- Celeborn
*FW- Haldir

MINAS MORGUL
-GK- The Mouth
-DF- Nazgul #1
-DF- Gothmog II
-DF- Nazgul #2
*DF- Khamul
-MF- Sangahyando
-MF- Angamaite
-MF- Beruthiel
-FW- Earnur
-FW- Castamir
**FW- Witch King

MINAS TIRITH
-GK- Ecthelion II
-DF- Ondoher
-DF- Denethor II
-DF- Earnil II
*DF- Nazgul #5
-MF- Telumehtar
-MF- Calimehtar
-MF- Beregond
-MF- Mardil
-FW- Boromir I
**FW- Aragorn II

MIRKWOOD
-GK- Oropher
-DF- Radagast
-DF- Treebeard
*DF- Grimbeorn
-MF- Bilbo
-MF- Galion
-MF- Fram
-MF- Nazgul #6
*FW- Legolas
-FW- Thranduil
**FW- Scatha

MORDOR
*GK- Shelob
-DF- Nazgul #3
-DF- Nazgul #4
-DF- Gorbag
-DF- Snaga
-MF- Radbug
-MF- Muzgash
-MF- Lagduf
-MF- Gollum
-MF- Shagrat
*FW- Grishnakh

MORIA
*GK- The Watcher
-DF- Gwaihir
-DF- Durin
-DF- Ohtar
*DF- Great Goblin
-MF- Thror
-MF- Balin
-MF- Thorin
-MF- Narvi
**MF- Durin’s Bane
*FW- Azog

NARGOTHROND
-GK- Orodreth
*DF- Celegorm
*DF- Mim
*DF- Luthien
*DF- Curufin
-MF- Gelmir
-MF- Arminas
-MF- Finduilas
*MF- Glaurung
*FW- Beren
*FW- Mablung

OSGILIATH
*GK- Romendacil
*DF- Meneldil
*DF- Siriondil
*DF- Cemendur
-MF- Telemnar
-MF- Narmacil
-MF- Ostoher
-MF- Falastur
-MF- Eldacar
*MF- Anarion
*FW- Hyarmendacil

ROMENNA
*GK- Elros
*DF- Tar Ancalime
*DF- Tar Elendil
*DF- Tar Amandil
*DF- Tar Aldarion
-MF- Tar Anarion
-MF- Tar Surion
-MF- Tar Meneldur
-MF- Vardamir
-MF- Tar Miriel
-FW- Tar Palantir

SHIRE
*GK- Samwise
-DF- Cotton
-DF- Fili
-DF- Kili
*DF- Maggot
-MF- Lobelia
-MF- Ted
-MF- Fatty
-MF- Nori
-MF- Halbarad
*FW- Bullroarer

TANIQUETIL
*GK- Mandos
*DF- Este
*DF- Vana
*DF- Nessa
*DF- Yavanna
*DF- Nienna
-MF- Lorien
-MF- Manwe
-MF- Varda
*MF- Thorondor
*FW- Orome

TUNA
-GK- Aule
-DF- Amrod
-DF- Amras
-DF- Indis
*DF- Ingwe
-MF- Guillen
-MF- Mahtan
*MF- Finarfin
-FW- Nerdanel
*FW- Finwe
**FW- Miriel

VALIMAR
*GK- Ungolient
*DF- Alatar
*DF- Pallando
*DF- Balrog #2
*DF- Balrog #3
-MF- Balrog #4
-MF- Arien
-MF- Tilion
**MF- Melkor
-FW- Tulkas
*FW- Eonwe

TOL-IN-GAURHOTH
*GK- Mormwolf
*DF- Kuruwolf
*DF- Runewolf
*DF- Skipwolf
*MF- Wereomer
*MF- Lomwolf
*MF- Borowolf
*MF- Phantomwolf
*FW- Nogwolf
*FW- Gwathwolf
*FW- SPMwolf

[the phantom]

Just like last year, you can gain bonus points for accurate predictions. Along with submitting your team, please predict-

Who will score the most goals in the tournament?

Who will have the most assists in the tournament?

Who will score the most total points in the tournament?

Which team will win the tournament?

Each of those will be worth TEN bonus points.

And then, predict the winner and runner up from each of the eight groups. Predicting the winner is worth 3 points. The runner up is worth 1. If you select the correct two teams but have their positions reversed, you will be awarded 2 points. So that's a possible THIRTY-TWO points right there!

[mormegil]

So if I understand correctly I can pick a Players? If so I would like Turin first please. How does this draft work?

[the phantom]

No draft, sir. Any player may be owned by anyone. Everyone can have Turin on their team. You have complete freedom of selection (except for you must have a valid formation and not exceed the star cap).

[Gwathagor]

Ok, here's my squad:


GK – Orodreth (Nargothrond)

DF – Elenwe (Gondolin)
DF – Ulfast (Angband)
DF – Eldarion (Lothlorien)

MF – Haleth* (Brethil)
MF – Arahael* (Amon Sul)
MF – Anarion* (Osgiliath)
MF – Gil Galad* (Eregion)
MF – Thorondor* (Taniquetil)
MF – Eol* (Doriath)

FW – Araphor (Arnor)

Predictions will be upcoming.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Are you allowed more than one player from the same team? (i.e. Sam and Farmer Maggot)

[Boromir88]

Name - TBD

GK- Theoden (Edoras)

DF- Skipwolf * (TIG)
DF- Gwaihir (Moria)
DF- Pippin (Bree)
DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)

MF- Hurin * (Angband)
MF- Glaurung * (Nargothrond)
MF- Eol * (Doriath)
MF- Varda (Taniquetil)
MF- Goldberry (Bree)

FW- Feanor ** (Hithlum)

[mormegil]

GK- *Carcharoth (Angband)

DF- *Kuruwolf(Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF- Brand (Erebor)
DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)

MF- **Melkor (Valimar)
MF- Goldberry (Bree)
MF- Hama (Helm’s Deep)
MF- Gimli (Lothlorien)

FW- **Turin (Dor-Lomin)
FW- Eowyn (Edoras)

Don't know if we have 'team names' but my general fantasy team name is monkey stink.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Are you allowed more than one player from the same team? (i.e. Sam and Farmer Maggot)

Sorry, I completely forgot to post that rule. *fixes first post*

You may not have more than 3 players from one team during group play.

[Boromir88]

Predictions:

GROUP A
Angband - Ancalagon, amazing 'fire' power and the best player in the entire group. Plus solid defense, should win group easily.
Alqualonde - I think they will upset the host Moria, who from what I remember typically has some team problems. Osse and Cirdan should be good enough to move them past the 1st round, but no further.
Moria (H) - They have Durin's Bane, but hey suspect defense and team chemistry will be a problem. And I doubt even being the host team will help...their fans are more likely to slay their own players, let alone cheer for them.
Minas Tirith - Aren't going anywhere. Only weapon is Aragorn and when all your defenders are older than the shelf life of twinkies you have a problem.

Group B
Mirkwood (H) - Scatha will lead the team...I really love dragons as players.
Nargothrond - See above, they have Glaurung, plus Beren and Mablung, but Scatha will still dominate the group. Solid defense that will help Orodreth.
Arnor - Will be the best defensive team of the group, but lack the scoring ability of Mirkwood and Nargothrond.
Helm's Deep - Won't win a game, this is a tough group, but even if they were in the D-lister league these guys still wouldn't win one.

Group C
Hithlum - Feanor, hands down the best player in the whole tournament, this team will go deep into the tourney.
Gondolin - Have the talent to win a group, but not a group that has Hithlum.
Minas Morgul - The WK and...?
Isengard (H) - They would probably be able to beat Helm's Deep, but won't beat anyone in this group

Group D
Eregion - They will win a lot of games 1-0, but they will win a lot of games.
Erebor (H) - Smaug...have to continue to go with the teams that have dragons.
Osgiliath - The defense could be good enough to upset Erebor, but no one will beat Eregion.
Mordor - These guys really have fallen apart from the past years that I remember at least.

Group E
Lothlorien (H) - probably the weakest and most wide open group, anyone can win it. But with Galadriel it is Lothlorien's to lose.
Doriath - Her protege, Galadriel has turned out stronger, but Melian is someone who will be difficult to score on.
Dor-Lomin - I am not sold on Turin, as someone who can carry a team past the 1st round
Armenelos- Sauron is one of the most overrated players in the tournament and being paired with Ar-Pharazon, the chemistry will not work.


Group F
Taniquetil - Solid team all around, they will win the group handily.
Edoras - my early round upset pick. They don't have any glaring superstars, but will work well together. Eorl will provide the offense, Eomer and Eowyn are underrated.
Dorthonion - Most people might pick Dorthonion over Edoras, but that won't happen.
The Shire (H) - The only reason I have the hobbits 4th in their group is because they have no talent and will have to rely on the referees to do anything. It is well known that they always get preferential treatment from the refs, and that should continue, but they still won't win...that's how bad the talent is on this team.

Group G
Tol-In Gaurhoth - Should win this group, but it will be a battle, they have yet to field their entire team, which means they will not have had many days to practice together.
Gondor - The quick strike attack and combo from Boromir, Faramir, and Imrahil will get Gondor past the first round, but no farther.
Tuna (H) - Overrated, plus they will lose Finarfin to injury after running into TIG and Eomer.
Brethil - One of the worst teams

Group H
Valimar - Stout defense and early reports say Melkor has become a much better team player, if so, this group will be tough to beat, even past group play.
Bree (H) - Nothing will get past the might tree goal-tending and the painfully annoying Tom Bombadil will cause many of Bree's opponents to run on their own swords.
Romenna - With Valimar and Bree in their group, Romenna won't be able to score.
Amon Sul - only difference maker is Elendil, and that will not be enough.

Most Goals - Feanor
Most Assists - Hurin
Most Total points - Maedhros
Champion - Hithlum, will be the 2nd best defensive team (behind Eregion) but Feanor and Maedhros will scare more teams than Glorfindel and Gil-Galad

[the phantom]

I added a note on rosters to the bottom of my first post. It may or may not be useful to you.

[Hakon]

GK- Theoden (Edoras)


-DF- Thrain(Erebor)
-DF- Fili(Shire)
-DF- Gorbag(Mordor)
-DF- Orophin(Lothlorien)

-MF- Balrog #4 (Valimar)
-MF- Finrod(Hithlum)
-MF- Fingon(Hithlum)

**FW- Scatha(Mirkwood)
**FW- Tom Bombadil (Bree)
**FW- Feanor(Hithlum)

[mormegil]

Turin will score the most goals
Finduilas will have the most assists
Melkor will score the most total points
Behind a stout defense and adequate offense Eregion will win the tourney.

[Eönwë]

My team:

*GK- Ungolient (Valimar)

*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-DF- Butterbur (Bree)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
-DF- Durin (Moria)

*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum)
-MF- Tuor (Dor-Lomin)
-MF- Goldberry (Bree)

**FW- Tom Bombadil (Bree)
*FW- Cirdan (Alqualonde)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I know that phantom will have fun keeping track of all this data, with his notebook and pen.

I will give you first my group predictions.

Group - 1st place - 2nd place


A: Angband, Moria
B: Nargothrond, Arnor
C: Hithlum, Gondolin
D: Eregion, Osgiliath
E: Armenelos, Lothlorien
F: Taniquetil, The Shire
G: Tol-in-Gaurhoth, Tuna
H: Valimar, Bree

[Gwathagor]

Predictions


Feanor will score the most goals.
Fingolfin will have the most assists.
Melkor will score the most total points.
Hithlum will win the tournament.

1st/2nd place for each group:
A: Angband/Moria
B: Nargothrond/Arnor
C: Hithlum/Gondolin
D: Eregion/Osgiliath
E: Armenelos/Lothlorien
F: Taniquetil/Dorthonion
G: Tol in Gaurhoth/Tuna
H: Valimar/Romenna

[mormegil]

GROUP A
ANGBAND 1st
MORIA 2nd

GROUP B
NARGOTHROND 1st
ARNOR 2nd

GROUP C
HITHLUM 1st
GONDOLIN 2nd

GROUP D
EREGION 1st
OSGILIATH 2nd

GROUP E
ARMENELOS 1st
DOR LOMIN 2nd

GROUP F
TANIQUETIL 1st
DORTHONION 2nd

GROUP G
TOL IN GAURHOTH 1st
TUNA 2nd

GROUP H
VALIMAR 1st
BREE 2nd

[the phantom]

Here is a list of everyone who has declared their participation. I'm going to PM a couple of other people that I thought might play. If you have any friends who want to play, get them on board quick. The games will begin in a few days. The schedule of matches will be up soon.

• Eomer (team, predictions, group predictions)
• Elmo
• Gwath (team, predictions, group predictions)
• Nogrod (team, predictions, group predictions)
• TGEW (team, predictions, group predictions)
• Morm (team, predictions, group predictions)
• McCaber (team)
• Boro (team, predictions, group predictions)
• Skip (team, predictions)
• Hakon (team)
• Eonwe (team, predictions, group predictions)
• Shasta (team, predictions, group predictions)
• Wilwa (team, predictions, group predictions)

If you don't see team, predictions, or groups predictions next to your name, that means you need to get it done. The TIG team is completed, so there should be no problems. I'll be PMing people to make sure they get things done.

[skip spence]

Here's my team:

GK Huor (Dor-lomin)

DF Snaga (Mordor)
DF Salgant (Gondolin)
DF Saeros (Doriath)
DF Maggot* (Shire)

MF Finrod (Hithlum)
MF Fingon (Hithlum)
MF The Barrow-Wight * (Bree)

F Ugluk (Isengaard)
F Túrin ** (Dor-lomin)
F Fëanor ** (Hithlum)

Predictions to come later!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

GK - Elrond** (Eregion)

DF - Luthien* (Nargothrond)
DF - Durin (Moria)
DF - Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos)
DF - Ulfast (Angband)

MF - Finrod (Hithlum)
MF - Fingon (Hithlum)
MF - Gimli (Lothlorien)
MF - Vardi (Taniquetil)

FW - Ancalagon** (Angband)
FW - SPMwolf* (T-I-G)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? - Ancalagon (Angband)

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? - Melkor (Valimar)

Who will score the most total points in the tournament? - Elrond (Eregion)

Which team will win the tournament? - Eregion

[Gwathagor]

I'd like to edit my team a bit, if that's all right.

GK – Orodreth (Nargothrond)

DF – Elenwe (Gondolin)
DF – Ulfast (Angband)
DF – Eldarion (Lothlorien)

MF – Arantar (Arnor)
MF – Melkor** (Valimar)
MF – Anarion* (Osgiliath)
MF – Gil Galad* (Eregion)
MF – Thorondor* (Taniquetil)
MF – Tar-Miriel (Romenna)


FW – Ancalagon** (Angband)

[skip spence]

Winner: Hithlum

Top goalscorer: Fëanor (Hithlom)

Most assists: The Phantom (T-I-G)

Most Total Points: Fëanor (Hithlom)

[the phantom]

Gwath- it looks like you have one star too many.

TGEW has sent in her picks. Here they are on the thread, just to make it official.

Originally Posted by TGEW

GK- Old Man Willow
DF- Balrog #5
DF- Rian
DF- Thrain
DF- Ulmo
MF- Hunthor
MF- Eol
MF- Tar-Minastir
FW- Tom Bombadil
FW- Turin
FW- Eowyn

Group predictions:
A) Alquoalonde, Angband
B) Nargothrond, Mirkwood
C) Hithlum, Gondolin
D) Mordor, Eregion
E) Dor-lomin, Doriath
F) Shire, Edoras
G) Tol in Gaurhoth, Brethil
H) Romenna, Bree

Tournament Predictions:
1) Who will score the most goals:
Tom Bombadil

2)Who will have the most assists in the tournament:
Smaug

3)Who will score the most total points in the tournament:
Gwathwolf

4)Which team will win the tournament:
Dor-lomin.

[Eönwë]

Tom Bombadil will score the most goals
Gandalf will have the most assists
Melkor will score the most total points
Hithlum will win the tournament

Groups (1= winners, 2= runners up):

Group A:
1. Angband- They have a flying dragon! Oh, and generally their team is full of some hidden talent.
2. Moria- After a close contest with Alqualonde (requiring Durin's bane to step up to the challenge), they will pass through to the next round.

Group B:
1. Nargothrond- An team with most players playing at a high level.
2. Arnor- After an early goal by Scatha, Arnor finally sort themselves out.

Group C:
1. Hithlum - everyone on their team is good, and most are amazing. If they don't win, they'll definately come close.
2. Gondolin - most of their players are reasonably good, but there might be some rivavlry between Ecthelion and Gothmog.

Group D:
1. Eregion - Score one goal at the beginning, then a mithril defence for the rest of the game. 1-0 on all games.
2. Osgiliath - Most players of a high standard. Their relatively strong defence counteracts Smaug's well-played but isolated attacks.

Group E:
1. Lothlorien - Many saves, but few goals scored.
2. Armenelos - Spread of good players.

Group F:
1. Taniquetil- One of the best all-star (almost) teams in the tournament.
2. Dorthonion- After a tense equalised game, Dorthonion beat the Shire.

Group G:
1. Tol-in-Gaurhoth- One of the best teams there, but haven't had much time to play together
2. Tuna - Finwe and Miriel make a deadly combination and can only be defeated by the amassed quality of the TiG team.

Group H:
1. Valimar - Really an all-star team. They're the Valar! Melkor will turn score a lot - By his own designs, though, which will render the team useless at some points. When he doesn't have the ball, Eonwe who is well known for his team play will easily score a few more.
2. Bree - Old Man Willow has the largest reach of any of the other players, while Tom Bombadil's singing while scoring an incredible number of goals should boost his team's morale, while lowering everyone else's.

[McCaber]

For my team, I shall go with the 4-3-3.

GK: Melian (Doriath)
DF: Balrog #5 (Angband)
DF: Elfwine (Edoras)
DF: Turgon (Gondolin)
DF: Anatar I (Gondor)
MF: phantomwolf (T-i-G)
MF: Bard (Erebor)
MF: Tuor (Dor-Lomin)
FW: Maedhros (Hithlum)
FW: Elendil (Amon Sul)
FW: Glorfindel (Eregion)

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Gwath- it looks like you have one star too many.

Blast, you caught me! I mean - blast, you're right! Stupid math.

[Gwathagor]

All fixed.

Gwath's Lynch Mob

GK – Orodreth (Nargothrond)

DF – Elenwe (Gondolin)
DF – Ulfast (Angband)
DF – Eldarion (Lothlorien)

MF – Arantar (Arnor)
MF – Melkor** (Valimar)
MF – Anarion* (Osgiliath)
MF – Gil Galad* (Eregion)
MF – Thorondor* (Taniquetil)
MF – Hurin* (Angband)

FW – Araphor (Arnor)

[Gwathagor]

Ok, two more trades, and then I'm really finished.

In the DF spot, Indis (Tuna) for Elenwe (Gondolin), and Balrog #5 (Angband) for Eldarion (Lothlorien).

So:

GK – Orodreth (Nargothrond)

DF – Indis (Tuna)
DF – Ulfast (Angband)
DF – Balrog #5 (Angband)

MF – Arantar (Arnor)
MF – Melkor** (Valimar)
MF – Anarion* (Osgiliath)
MF – Gil Galad* (Eregion)
MF – Thorondor* (Taniquetil)
MF – Hurin* (Angband)

FW – Araphor (Arnor)


And we can make trades between rounds, right?

[Nogrod]

Here are my predictions of the group-stage:

A
1. Angband
2. Alqualonde

B.
1. Nargothrond
2. Mirkwood

C.
1. Hithlum
2. Isengard

D.
1. Eregion
2. Erebor

E.
1. Armenelos
2. Doriath

F.
1. Taniquetil
2. Dorthonion

G:
1. T-I-G
2. Tuna

H.
1.Valimar
2. Romenna

[Nogrod]

My team: The Noggerball is here.

4-3-3

GK Huan * (Hithlum)

DF Elenwë (Gondolin)
DF Celebrimbor * (Eregion)
DF Saeros (Doriath)
DF Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)

MF Varda (Taniquetil)
MF Idril (Alqualonde)
MF Glaurung * (Nargothrond)

FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
FW Miriel ** (Tuna)
FW Nogwolf * (T-I-G)

I need to believe in myself this year. Last year it was just hideous - and all the T-I-G -team points are overestimations anyway. But one needs to stick into principles...

[Nogrod]

And the other predictions...

Most goals in the tournament: Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)

Most assists in the tournament: Aredhel (Hithlum)

Top total points: Ungoliant (Valimar)

Winning the tournament: Valimar

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Here's what I have - Team Shastafarian. Blame Phantom for dragging me in on this.

4-3-3

GK - Carcharoth (Angband) *

DF - Butterbur (Bree)
DF - Belegund (Dorthonion)
DF - Valacar (Gondor)
DF - Orophin (Lothlorien)

MF - Arantar (Arnor)
MF - Arwen (Lothlorien)
MF - Phantomwolf (Tol-In-Gaurhoth) *

FW - Hyarmendacil (Osgiliath) *
FW - Miriel (Tuna) **
FW - SPMwolf (Tol-In-Gaurhoth) *

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Predictions 1:

Who will score the most goals in the tournament?

- Feanor (Hithlum)

Who will have the most assists in the tournament?

- Phantomwolf (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)

Who will score the most total points in the tournament?

- Melkor (Valimar)

Which team will win the tournament?

- Tol-in-Gaurhoth

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Predictions 2:

Group - Win/Runner

A - Angband/Alqualonde

B - Nargothrond/Mirkwood

C - Hithlum/Gondolin

D - Eregion/Osgiliath

E - Lothlorien/Armenelos

F - Taniquetil/Dorthonion

G - Tol-In-Gaurhoth/Tuna

H - Bree/Valimar

[Nerwen]

Do you still need more people, tp?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Do you still need more people, tp?

The more, the merrier!

It would be nice to have you along Nerwen!

[wilwarin538]

I suppose I shall give this a try, though I have a feeling I'm gonna be very bad at this, most of these names were just chosen because I went "Oooooh, I love that person"......anyway, here's my list and predictions, no logic was put into this what so ever, haha:

4-3-3

GK: Mormwolf (T-I-G) *

DF: Pippin (Bree)
DF: Kili (Shire)
DF: Rumil (Lothlorien) *
DF: Nessa (Taniquetil) * (had to, cause that's my name!)

MF: Arathorn (Amon Sul)
MF: Morwen (Dor-lomin)
MF: Elrohir (Eregion)

FW: Tom Bombadil (Bree) **
FW: Eowyn (Edoras)
FW: Gothmog (Gondolin) *

Score most goals: Miriel
Most assists: Thorondor
Most points: Gandalf
Win: Taniquetil

A: Minas Tirith, Alqualonde
B: Arnor, Nargothrond
C: Hithlum, Gondolin
D: Eregion, Mordor
E: Dor Lomin, Armenelos
F: Taniquetil, Shire
G: Tuna, T-I-G
H: Bree, Valimar

Did I do it right???