Arda Cup Soccer 2008- Phantasy- er, I Mean Fantasy Thread

[the phantom]

Okay, we almost have full rosters, so I figured I'd go ahead and lay down the rules for this.

You must select a total of 11 players. You must have a goalie, and then after that you can use any of these formations-

(DF-MF-FW)
5-4-1
4-5-1
3-6-1
4-4-2
4-3-3

The system for gaining points-

SCORING A GOAL
FW = 4 pts
MF = 5 pts
DF/G = 6 pts

SCORING AN ASSIST
FW/MF/DF/G = 3 pts

ALLOWING THE OPPENENT ZERO GOALS
DF/G = 4 pts
MF = 1 pts

ALLOWING THE OPPONENT ONE GOAL
DF/G = 2 pts

MAKING 3 SAVES
G = 1 pt

In addition to those normal methods of scoring fantasy points, there are bonus points available to everyone for making accurate predictions.

Please predict-
1) A winner for every group (each worth 2 pts)
2) A runner up for every group (each worth 1 pt)
Note: If you have the two reversed you will be awarded a point
3) The player who will score the most goals (worth 10 pts)
4) The player who will score the most assists (worth 10 pts)
5) The player who will score the most fantasy points (worth 10 pts)
6) The team that will win it all. (worth 10 pts)

In each round of the playoffs you can predict the winner of each match. For every one you get right you will be awarded a fantasy point.

There will be three rounds of matches during group play. Before each round you are allowed to swap in and out anyone you want on your fantasy roster. But after the final round of group play you will only be allowed six trades, thus you had better have your team at least half-set for the playoffs before the final round of group play.

After each playoff round you will be allowed three trades.

When you have your team, post it like this-

TEAM NAME
G- Player
DF- Player
DF- Player
DF- Player
DF- Player
MF- Player
MF- Player
MF- Player
MF- Player
FW- Player
FW- Player

And when you make a trade, please do NOT edit your team (in case we are still busy adding fantasy points). Simply announce your trade and before the next round begins either Nog or I will post a list of updated fantasy team rosters.

All right, that should do it for now. As soon as I have the full Tol-In-Gaurhoth roster I will post the final rosters here, as well as some tips to keep in mind when selecting your fantasy team.

[the phantom]

Full rosters!

Congrats to Gwath and Hookbill for rounding out the Tol-In-Gaurhoth team.

ALQUALONDE
G- Olwe
DF- Earwen
DF- Cirdan
DF- Frodo
DF- Elwing
MF- Eriol
MF- Lindo
MF- Bilbo
MF- Uinen
FW- Osse
FW- Gil-Galad

AMON RHUD
G- Ebor
DF- Sagroth
DF- Forweg
DF- Forhend
MF- Avranc
MF- Ragnir
MF- Asgon
MF- Gethron
MF- Grithnir
MF- Algund
FW- Androg

ANGBAND
G- Carcharoth
DF- Balrog 2
DF- Uldor
DF- Balrog 3
DF- Balrog 4
MF- Balrog 5
MF- Balrog 6
MF- Ulfast
MF- Melkor
FW- Gothmog
FW- Ancalagon

ANNUMINAS
G- Arvedui
DF- Tarcil
DF- Elendur
DF- Earendur
DF- Tarandor
MF- Arveleg
MF- Argeleb
MF- Eldacar
MF- Arantar
MF- Valandur
FW- Araphor

ARMENELOS
G- Elros
DF- Tar Atanamir
DF- Tar Ciryatan
DF- Tar-Telperien
MF- Ar Zimrathan
MF- Tar Calmacil
MF- Ar Adunakhor
MF- Ar Gimilzor
FW- Tar Ancalimon
FW- Tar Minastir
FW- Ar Pharazon

BREELAND
G- Old Man Willow
DF- Bob
DF- Goldberry
DF- Nob
MF- Odo Proudfoot
MF- Sardoc Brandybuck
MF- Harry
MF- Butterbur
MF- The Barrow-Wight
FW- Bill Ferny
FW- Tom Bombadil

BRETHIL
G- Hardang
DF- Hundad
DF- Nienor
DF- Handir
MF- Brandir
MF- Manthor
MF- Dorlas
MF- Halmir
MF- Hunthor
MF- Haleth
FW- Haldir

DORIATH
G- Melian
DF- Elured
DF- Luthien
DF- Elurin
DF- Saeros
MF- Nellas
MF- Daeron
MF- Dior
MF- Elwe
FW- Mablung
FW- Beleg

EDORAS
G- Theoden
DF- Aldor
DF- Folcwine
DF- Frealaf
MF- Thengel
MF- Folca
MF- Theodred
MF- Brytta
MF- Eowyn
FW- Eomer
FW- Eorl

EREBOR
G- Bain
DF- Nain
DF- Thorin
DF- Thror
DF- Brand
MF- Dain
MF- Thrain
MF- Girion
MF- Beorn
MF- Bard
FW- Smaug

FORMENOS
G- Huan
DF- Celegorm
DF- Caranthir
DF- Curufin
DF- Celebrimbor
MF- Amrod
MF- Amras
MF- Maglor
MF- Aredhel
FW- Maedhros
FW- Feanor

FORNOST
G- Aragost
DF- Aravir
DF- Argonui
DF- Arador
DF- Amlaith
MF- Aranuir
MF- Arahad
MF- Aranarth
MF- Arassuil
FW- Arahael
FW- Arathorn

GONDOLIN
G- Tuor
DF- Salgant
DF- Galdor
DF- Meleth
DF- Turgon
MF- Rog
MF- Idril
MF- Penlod
MF- Eol
FW- Ecthelion
FW- Maeglin

GONDOR
G- Beregond
DF- Anardil
DF- Atanatar I
DF- Minalcar
DF- Dervorin
MF- Golasgil
MF- Hirluin
MF- Valacar
MF- Calmacil
FW- Faramir
FW- Imrahil

HELM’S DEEP
G- Erkenbrand
DF- Gram
DF- Walda
DF- Goldwine
MF- Brego
MF- Hama
MF- Fengel
MF- Frea
MF- Elfwine
MF- Eomund
FW- Helm

HITHLUM
G- Huor
DF- Galdor
DF- Marach
DF- Gundor
DF- Hador
MF- Angrod
MF- Aegnor
MF- Fingon
MF- Hurin
FW- Fingolfin
FW- Turin

ISENGARD
G- Beechbone
DF- Snaga
DF- Deor
DF- Skinbark
MF- Mauhur
MF- Treebeard
MF- Lugdush
MF- Freawine
MF- Quickbeam
FW- Ugluk
FW- Saruman

LOTHLORIEN
G- Galadriel
DF- Gollum
DF- Arwen
DF- Gimli
DF- Celebrian
MF- Nimrodel
MF- Rumil
MF- Orophin
MF- Amroth
MF- Haldir
FW- Eldarion

MICHEL DELVING
G- Sam
DF- Bungo
DF- Drogo
DF- Gerontius
DF- Lotho
MF- Ted Sandyman
MF- Fatty
MF- Gaffer
FW- Merry
FW- Pippin
FW- Bullroarer

MINAS TIRITH
G- Ecthelion II
DF- Calimehtar
DF- Ondoher
DF- Earnil II
DF- Beregond
MF- Turin II
MF- Denethor II
MF- Telumehtar
MF- Boromir I
MF- Mardil
FW- Earnur

MIRKWOOD
G- Oropher
DF- Lagduf
DF- Galion
DF- Muzgash
DF- Gorbag
MF- Nazgul #8
MF- Grishnakh
MF- Grimbeorn
FW- Thranduil
FW- Legolas
FW- Scatha

MORDOR
G- Shelob
DF- Nazgul #7
DF- Shagrat
DF- Gothmog II
DF- Nazgul #6
MF- Nazgul #5
MF- Nazgul #4
MF- Nazgul #3
MF- The Mouth
FW- Khamul
FW- The Witch King

MORIA
G- Watcher
DF- Kili
DF- Ohtar
DF- Oin
DF- Great Goblin
MF- Narvi
MF- Balin
MF- Bolg
MF- Durin
MF- Durin’s Bane
FW- Azog

NARGOTHROND
G- Beor
DF- Bregolas
DF- Bregor
DF- Belegund
DF- Gelmir
MF- Baragund
MF- Barahir
MF- Glaurung
MF- Finrod
MF- Beren
FW-Gwindor

OSGILIATH
G- Romendacil
DF- Meneldil
DF- Siriondil
DF- Cemendur
MF- Telemnar
MF- Narmacil
MF- Earnil
MF- Ostoher
MF- Falastur
MF- Eldacar
FW- Hyarmendacil

RIVENDELL
G- Elrond
DF- Gildor
DF- Celeborn
DF- Erestor
DF- Gandalf
MF- Valandil
MF- Elladen
MF- Elrohir
MF- Aragorn
MF- Boromir II
FW- Glorfindel

ROMENA
G- Amandil
DF- Tar Meneldur
DF- Tar Elendil
DF- Vardamir
DF- Tar Aldarion
MF- Anarion
MF- Tar Miriel
MF- Tar Surion
MF- Tar Palantir
MF- Elendil
FW- Isildur

TANIQUETIL
G- Mandos
DF- Este
DF- Vana
DF- Nessa
DF- Aule
DF- Yavanna
MF- Nienna
MF- Thorondor
MF- Varda
MF- Manwe
FW- Lorien

TUNA
G- Orodreth
DF- Elenwe
DF- Guilen
DF- Ingwe
DF- Duilin
MF- Egalmoth
MF- Finarfin
MF- Nerdanel
FW- Mahtan
FW- Finwe
FW- Miriel

UMBAR
G- Pelendur
DF- Calimehtar
DF- Ulrad
DF- Brodda
DF- Folcred
MF- Angamaite
MF- Sangahyando
MF- Fastred
FW- Beruthiel
FW- Nazgul #9
FW- Castamir

VALIMAR
G- Ungolient
DF- Ulmo
DF- Alatar
DF- Pallando
DF- Radagast
MF- Arien
MF- Orome
MF- Tilion
MF- Earendil
FW- Tulkas
FW- Eonwe

TOL-IN-GAURHOTH
G- Drauglin
DF- Hookbill
DF- Gwathagor
DF- Cailin
MF- Lhuna
MF- Thuringwethil
MF- Eomer
MF- the phantom
FW- Formendacil
FW- Nogrod
FW- Sauron

[the phantom]

When selecting your team, look at the order in which the players are listed (particularly midfielders).

In general, the MFs that are listed farther down closer to the FWs tend to get involved more in the offense, while the MFs listed higher up are more defensive minded. This is not a guarantee that the lower MFs will score more fantasy points, however there is a greater probability of them scoring more fantasy points.

In other words, I would generally slant my selections towards those MFs lower on the list, but don't get upset if one of yours gets shut down and the one above him scores a bunch. There are no guarantees.

[the phantom]

Here is a very general guide to the teams and groups. I'm hoping this will help you make good fantasy picks (if all the teams in a group are defensive, don't pick FWs from there, etc.).

GROUP A
FORNOST - a very balanced team, excellent teamwork and spirit
MICHEL DELVING - they like to outscore opponents to counter their suspect defense, have been legally allowed to use Ent-draught on their players
RIVENDELL (H) - fantastic team defense, plus they'll have the home crowd
ROMENA - boring defensive style, but talented athletes

GROUP B
BREELAND - very capable of scoring, but falls asleep defensively
EDORAS (H) - attacking, will score a bit but leaves goal open to counter-attack, has the home crowd behind them
MIRKWOOD - will try to outscore opponents plain and simple
TOL-IN-GAURHOTH - mega-aggressive, leaves defenders exposed and counts on their individual talent to keep opponent from scoring more than twice, TIG thinks they can always score at least two goals

GROUP C
ALQUALONDE - good talent up and down the field, conventional style, very pretty uniforms
DORIATH (H) - solid all over, count on Melian too much at times, have home crowd
FORMENOS - superior athletes top to bottom, lockdown defense and effective scorers
ISENGARD - good talent, but have team chemistry problems

GROUP D
LOTHLORIEN - very good defense, untested offense
NARGOTHROND - very solid, no obvious weakness
OSGILIATH (H) - methodical and boring but know how to win, plus home crowd
UMBAR - very diverse team and relatively untested

GROUP E
EREBOR - good defense and capable of scoring
GONDOLIN (H) - can score with anyone, have home crowd
GONDOR - good teamwork, plays smart
TUNA - likely to give away goals, also likely to score a lot

GROUP F
AMON RHUD - patchwork team, very defensive
ARMENELOS - good talent top to bottom, amazing athletes
HELM'S DEEP - defensive specialists, like low scoring contests
TANIQUETIL (H) - legendary names, play ultra-conservatively, home crowd

GROUP G
HITHLUM - can definitely score, defense usually good enough
MINAS TIRITH - good balance and work together well
MORDOR (H) - even without Sauron still a dangerous team, impossible to keep off scoreboard, especially at home
MORIA - strong talent up front, but weaker at the back

GROUP H
ANGBAND (H) - amazing talent all over, no weakness, playing at home
ANNUMINAS - capable defense and good offensive talent
BRETHIL - no outstanding weakness or strength, try to keep games low scoring
VALIMAR - outstanding players up and down the roster, equally good defense and offense

[the phantom]

Okay, you can start posting your fantasy teams any time now.

Follow the format in my first post please.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

G - Elrond (Rivendell)

DF - Este (Taniquetil)
DF - Aule (Taniquetil)
DF - Cailin (T-I-G)
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)

MF - Arien (Valimar)
MF - Melkor (Angband)
MF - the phantom (T-I-G)

FW - Feanor (Formenos)
FW - Gothmog (Angband)
FW - Tulkas (Valimar)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Group A: 1st - Rivendell / 2nd - Fornost

Group B: 1st - Edoras / 2nd - Tol-in-Gaurhoth

Group C: 1st - Formenos / 2nd - Doriath

Group D: 1st - Nargothrond / 2nd - Osgiliath

Group E: 1st - Gondolin / 2nd - Erebor

Group F: 1st - Armenelos / 2nd - Taniquetil

Group G: 1st - Hithlum / 2nd - Mordor

Group H: 1st - Angband / 2nd - Valimar





Most goals: Gothmog (Angband)

Most assists: Melkor (Angband)

Most points: Gothmog (Angband)

Winner: Angband



I don't think there will be an upset this year, there are just too many very strong teams. Angband look the strongest to me, and their will, not just to win, but to defeat and crush their opponents, could well see them crowned champions.

[Cailín]

G - Old Man Willow (Breeland)

DF - Vana (Taniquetil)
DF - Luthien (Doriath)
DF - Yavanna (Taniquetil)

MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (T-i-G)
MF - Treebeard (Isengard)
MF - Aredhel (Formenos)
MF - Aragorn (Rivendell)
MF - Boromir II (Rivendell)
MF - Bilbo (Alqualonde)

FW - The Witch King (Mordor)

[Cailín]

A: 1st - Rivendell, 2nd - Michel Delving

B: 1st - Tol in Gaurhoth, 2nd - Mirkwood

C: 1st - Alqualonde, 2nd - Formenos

D: 1st - Osgiliath, 2nd - Lothlorien

E: 1st - Erebor, 2nd - Gondor

F: 1st - Taniquetil, 2nd - Armenelos

G: 1st - Mordor, 2nd - Hithlum

H: 1st - Angband, 2nd - Valimar



Most goals: The Witch King (Mordor)

Most assists: Eomer of the Rohirrim (Tol in Gaurhoth)

Most points: Lhunardawen (Tol in Gaurhoth)

Winner: Mirkwood

[the phantom]

All right- that's two teams and predictions thus far- Eomer and Cailin.

Formy, Valesse, Ang, Lhuna, McCaber, Gwath, Tuor, Skip, and Hook- you've all posted on the thread. I'd love to see you submit predictions and a fantasy team. It doesn't take much time. I have all of the next two months to get this tournament in, but I'd like to get started sooner rather than later.

PM people that you think might be interested in this sort of thing. Once I have enough people I'll start the matches, and that's when the fun will really start!

[Gwathagor]

G- Erkenbrand (Helm’s Deep)
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
MF- the phantom (TIG)
MF- Ar-Gimilzor (Armenelos)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)



I'll get to the predictions in a bit.

[Elmo]

I've got this and the Euro Championships to keep an eye on. A lot of football. Scotland aren't in either

G- Melian (Does she get to use her girdle in the goal?)
DF- Forweg
DF- Aule
DF- Gram
DF- Elendur
MF- Melkor
MF- Denethor II
MF- Eomer (The only Aberdonian playing in an international championship this summer)
FW- Azog
FW- Ecthelion
FW- Finwe

[Gwathagor]

Group A – Rivendell / Fornost

Group B – Mirkwood / Tol-In-Gaurhoth

Group C – Formenos / Doriath

Group D – Nargothrond / Osgiliath

Group E – Gondor / Gondolin

Group F – Armenelos / Helm's Deep

Group G – Mordor / Hithlum

Group H – Valimar / Angband



Most goals: Sauron

Most assists: the phantom

Most fantasy points: Earendil

Winner: Valimar

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Elmo

MF- Eomer (The only Aberdonian playing in an international championship this summer)

It's nae like Darren Mackie would get in the Scotland team.

(Or indeed any player, no matter how good, who played for Aberdeen. )

[Anguirel]

Can you use a player already on someone else's roster? Am a little confused still

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Aye, Ang, that can.

[the phantom]

Quite right, Eomer. Players can be drafted onto multiple teams.

[skip spence]

Allright...

GK Mandos (Taniquetil)
DC Ulmo (Valimar)
DC Aule (Taniquetil)
DC Tar-Aldarion (Romena)
MR Eöl (Gondolin)
MC Durin's Bane (Moria)
MC Melkor (Angband)
ML Earendil (Valimar)
FC Turin (Hithlum)
FC Nogrod (T-I_G)
FC Ancalagon (Angband)

Rohirrim Group A: 1st - Rivendell / 2nd - Romena

Group B: 1st - Edoras / 2nd - Tol-in-Gaurhoth

Group C: 1st - Formenos / 2nd - Alqualonde

Group D: 1st - LOTHLORIEN / 2nd NARGOTHROND

Group E: 1st - Gondolin / 2nd - Tuna

Group F: 1st - Taniquetil/ 2nd - Armenelos

Group G: 1st - Mordor / 2nd - Hithlum

Group H: 1st - Angband / 2nd - Valimar


Most goals: Turin (Hithlum)

Most assists: Melkor (Angband)

Most points: Gothmog (Angband)

Winner: TOL-IN-GAURHOTH

[Anguirel]

Fantasy team

G – Galadriel (Lothlorien)
DF – Goldberry (Breeland)
DF – Luthien (Doriath)
DF – Celegorm (Formenos)
DF – Curufin (Formenos)
MF – Daeron (Doriath)
MF – Maglor (Formenos)
MF – Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW – Maedhros (Formenos)
FW – Maeglin (Gondolin)
FW – Eomer (Edoras)

Predictions (already documented in more depth on other thread)

Group A - 1st Rivendell/2nd Romena

Group B - 1st Mirkwood/2nd Tol-in-Gaurhoth

Group C - 1st Formenos (yeah)/2nd Doriath

Group D - 1st Lothlorien/2nd Nargothrond

Group E - 1st Gondolin/2nd Tuna

Group F - 1st Taniquetil/2nd Armenolos

Group G - 1st Hithlum/2nd Minas Tirith

Group H - 1st Angband/2nd Valimar


Most goals: Maeglin (Gondolin) (including own goals, possibly. The Sharpboot is very skilled, but erratic)

Most assists: Finrod (Nargothrond)

Most points: Maedhros (Formenos)

WINNER: Formenos…(of course)

[the phantom]

Elmo, are you going to give group and scoring predictions as well? Remember, that can score you extra fantasy points.

All right, we have six entries so far. Excellent. I'll start sending some pms to people who have posted on the threads but haven't made predictions or picked teams.

[Elmo]

GROUP A

1st RIVENDELL
2nd ROMENA

GROUP B
1st EDORAS
2nd TOL-IN-GAURHOTH

GROUP C
DORIATH 1st
FORMENOS 2nd

GROUP D

OSGILIATH 1st
NARGOTHROND 2nd



GROUP E

GONDOLIN 1st
EREBOR - 2nd

GROUP F

ARMENELOS 1st
TANIQUETIL 2nd

GROUP G

MORDOR 1st
MINAS TIRITH 2nd

GROUP H
ANGBAND1st
VALIMAR 2nd

Most goals: Denethor II

Most Assists: Melkor

Most points: Melkor

Winner: Angband

Do we get to pick team names?

[Lhunardawen]

Sorry phantom, I haven't forgotten this thread. I'll put up my predictions and whatnot soon - in a few days, maybe.

[Lhunardawen]

G - Huan (Formenos)

DF - Luthien (Doriath)
DF - Ulmo (Valimar)
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)

MF - Fingon (Hithlum)
MF - Eowyn (Edoras)
MF - Finrod (Nargothrond)
MF - Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - Varda (Taniquetil)

FW - Fingolfin (Hithlum)


GROUP A: Rivendell (1st), Fornost (2nd)
GROUP B: Tol-in-Gaurhoth (1st), Edoras (2nd)
GROUP C: Formenos (1st), Doriath (2nd)
GROUP D: Lothlorien (1st), Nargothrond (2nd)
GROUP E: Gondolin (1st), Gondor (2nd)
GROUP F: Taniquetil (1st), Armenelos (2nd)
GROUP G: Mordor (1st), Minas Tirith (2nd)
GROUP H: Valimar (1st), Angband (2nd)


Most goals: Ulmo (Valimar)
Most assists: Finrod (Nargothrond)
Most points: Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

Winner: Taniquetil

[Formendacil]

Making predictions isn't quite my things... I'd rather sit around and snipe at other people's, but the phantom's PM has sat in my PM box for the last couple weeks or so while I've been gallivanting around the continent, and I feel guilty...

With no more ado, then...

I'm not seeing this in the rules anywhere, but I'm unclear: is my fantasy roster supposed to be composed entirely of players that no one else owns? That seems to be the idea, but I'm rather too lazy to cross-check every player everyone's picked.

[Elmo]

No you can pick players others have picked. I couldn't be bothered with it if you couldn't.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

G- Melian (Doriath) (Nothing gets past her. )

DF- Lúthien (Doriath)
DF- Cailín (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF- Aulë (Taniquetil)
DF- Yavanna (Taniquetil)

MF- Lhunardawen (Tol-in-Gaurhoth) ( )
MF- Tar-Míriel (Rómena)
MF- Elwë (Doriath)
MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)

FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond) (He can get past anything. )
FW- Túrin (Hithlum)

GROUP A: Michel Delving, Rivendell
**(Rivendell vs Rómena will be the closest fight in the group stages.)
GROUP B: Tol-in-Gaurhoth, Edoras
GROUP C: Doriath, Alqualondë
GROUP D: Nargothrond, Lothlórien
GROUP E: Gondolin, Erebor
GROUP F: Armenelos, Taniquetil (Ooh.)
GROUP G: Hithlum, Mordor
GROUP H: Angband, Valimar

Most goals: Túrin (Hithlum)
Most assists: Finrod (Nargothrond)
Most points: Beren (Nargothrond)

Overall winner: Nargothrond

[the phantom]

All right, the following have entered in the Fantasy Challenge-

Eomer
Cailin
Gwathagor
Elmo
Skip
Anguirel
Lhuna
Nilp

And Form- you can pick any players you want. It doesn't matter if they've been picked already.

As soon as I have predictions from both Form and Nogrod I shall begin the first round, so if you know anyone who wants to participate please tell them to get a move on.

[Formendacil]

Right then... late as I am getting to this, I'm still beating Nogrod out. I hope...

Anyway, I too think the redoubtable Melian is THE goalie to beat, so...

G- Melian

DF- Lúthien
DF- Gandalf
DF- Hookbill the Goomba
DF- Frodo

MF- Amrod
MF- Amras
MF- Aragorn II

FW- Sauron
FW- Isildur
FW- Glorfindel


For my predictions regarding the first round:

GROUP A
RIVENDELLl 1st, Fornost 2nd

GROUP B
TOL-IN-GAURHOTH 1st, Edoras 2nd

GROUP C
DORIATH 1st, Formenos 2nd

GROUP D
NARGOTHROND -1st, Lothlórien 2nd

GROUP E
GONDOLIN 1st, Erebor 2nd

GROUP F
ARMENELOS 1st, Taniquetil 2nd

GROUP G
MORDOR 1st, Hithlum 2nd

GROUP H
ANGBAND 1st, Valimar 2nd

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It's cheating to have 12 players, Form.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

It's cheating to have 12 players, Form.

Wha...

Oh.

I miscounted.

This is what comes of posting too late... my arithmetic fails me. I shall fix that.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Right then... late as I am getting to this, I'm still beating Nogrod out.

You are indeed. But I'll have my squad ready tomorrow and it will hopefully beat yours in the game...

[Nogrod]

Here it comes then.

Goalkeeper:
Huan (Formenos)

Defence:
Saeros (Doriath)
Caranthir (Formenos)
Gelmir (Nargothrond)
Meneldil (Osgiliath)

Midfielders:
Idril (Gondolin)
Nienna (Taniquetil)
Nerdanel (Tuna)

Forwards:
Ancalagon (Angband)
Smaug (Erebor)
Nogrod (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

That was such a hard one! It was indeed sad I was myself in the line-up for a forward for I couldn't help but choosing myself just for the tragedy of it... and just think of the alternatives!!!

My predictions for the first round then...

GROUP A
1. Rivendell
2. Michel Delving

GROUP B
1. Tol-in-gaurhoth
2. Edoras

GROUP C
1. Formenos
2. Doriath

GROUP D
1. Nargothrond
2. Osgiliath

GROUP E
1. Gondolin
2. Gondor

GROUP F
1. Taniquetil
2. Armenelos

GROUP G
1. Mordor
2. Minas Tirith

GROUP H
1. Angband
2. Valimar


I'll throw the last predictions after I have given them some thought...

But we're off now!

Sorry to have kept you waiting...

[Nogrod]

Btw.

How does the change into the round robins take place after the group-phase?

Is it like:

Game I : 1st group A - 2nd group H
Game II: 1st group B - 2nd group G
Game III: 1st group C - 2nd group F
Game IV: 1st group D - 2nd group E
Game V: 1st group E - 2nd group D
Game VI: 1st group F - 2nd group C
Game VII: 1st group G - 2nd group B
Game VIII: 1st group H - 2nd group A

Or like:

Game I : 1st group A - 2nd group D
Game II: 1st group B - 2nd group C
Game III: 1st group C - 2nd group B
Game IV: 1st group D - 2nd group A

Game V: 1st group E - 2nd group H
Game VI: 1st group F - 2nd group G
Game VII: 1st group G - 2nd group F
Game VIII: 1st group H - 2nd group E


Or some other way?

Just curious...

[Nogrod]

The rest of my predictions...

Top scorer:
Gothmog (Angband)

Most assists:
The Mouth (Mordor)

Most fantasy points:
Formendacil (Tol-in-gaurhoth)

The winning team... is:
Gondolin

[the phantom]

All right- we have ten competing fantasy teams! I have on paper a master list of all of your pre-tournament predictions.

Fantasy teams are locked in now. After the first sixteen matches I will announce the next round of match-ups and you will be allowed unlimited trades. The same goes for after that round. But remember that after the third and final round of group play you will only be allowed six trades. And once the playoffs begin only three trades per round are allowed.

Originally Posted by Elmo

Do we get to pick team names?

Absolutely!

If you have a name for your team just post it here.

[the phantom]

Sorry, Skip, but I just noticed you aren't using one of the approved fantasy formations. Same thing I did last year.

The formations are listed in the first post.

For now, here's what we have.

EOMER
G - Elrond (Rivendell)
DF - Este (Taniquetil)
DF - Aule (Taniquetil)
DF - Cailin (T-I-G)
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)
MF - Arien (Valimar)
MF - Melkor (Angband)
MF - the phantom (T-I-G)
FW - Feanor (Formenos)
FW - Gothmog (Angband)
FW - Tulkas (Valimar)

CAILIN
G - Old Man Willow (Breeland)
DF - Vana (Taniquetil)
DF - Luthien (Doriath)
DF - Yavanna (Taniquetil)
MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (T-i-G)
MF - Treebeard (Isengard)
MF - Aredhel (Formenos)
MF - Aragorn (Rivendell)
MF - Boromir II (Rivendell)
MF - Bilbo (Alqualonde)
FW - The Witch King (Mordor)

GWATH
G- Erkenbrand (Helm’s Deep)
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
MF- the phantom (TIG)
MF- Ar-Gimilzor (Armenelos)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)

ELMO
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Gram (Helm's Deep)
DF- Elendur (Annumunas)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
FW- Azog (Moria)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
FW- Finwe (Tuna)

SKIP
G- Mandos (Taniquetil)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)
DF- Tar-Aldarion (Romena)
MF- Eöl (Gondolin)
MF- Durin's Bane (Moria)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Earendil (Valimar)
FW- Turin (Hithlum)
FW- Nogrod (T-I_G)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)

ANG
G – Galadriel (Lothlorien)
DF – Goldberry (Breeland)
DF – Luthien (Doriath)
DF – Celegorm (Formenos)
DF – Curufin (Formenos)
MF – Daeron (Doriath)
MF – Maglor (Formenos)
MF – Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW – Maedhros (Formenos)
FW – Maeglin (Gondolin)
FW – Eomer (Edoras)

LHUNA
G - Huan (Formenos)
DF - Luthien (Doriath)
DF - Ulmo (Valimar)
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)
MF - Fingon (Hithlum)
MF - Eowyn (Edoras)
MF - Finrod (Nargothrond)
MF - Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - Varda (Taniquetil)
FW - Fingolfin (Hithlum)

NILP
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)
DF- Cailín (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF- Aulë (Taniquetil)
DF- Yavanna (Taniquetil)
MF- Lhunardawen (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF- Tar-Míriel (Rómena)
MF- Elwë (Doriath)
MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond)
FW- Túrin (Hithlum)

FORM
G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG)
DF- Frodo (Alqualonde)
MF- Amrod (Formenos)
MF- Amras (Formenos)
MF- Aragorn II (Rivendell)
FW- Sauron (TIG)
FW- Isildur (Romena)
FW- Glorfindel (Rivendell)

Nog
G- Huan (Formenos)
DF- Saeros (Doriath)
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)
DF- Gelmir (Nargothrond)
DF- Meneldil (Osgiliath)
MF- Idril (Gondolin)
MF- Nienna (Taniquetil)
MF- Nerdanel (Tuna)
FW- Ancalagon (Angband)
FW- Smaug (Erebor)
FW- Nogrod (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)

[the phantom]

There has been one change to the fantasy point system. I edited my first post. The goalie can now earn additional points for saves.

If you think that will greatly impact your choice you may replace your goalie at this time. When you do trades please just post who is leaving your team and who is joining your team.

[Formendacil]

Player who will score the most goals - Míriel
Player who will score the most assists - Eönwë
Player who will score the most fantasy points - Túrin Turambar
Team that will win the whole tournament - Angband

[McCaber]

All right, here's my team.

G- Melian (Doriath)
DF- Turgon (Gondolin)
DF- Gimli (Lothlorien)
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)
MF- Melkor (Angband)
MF- Boromir I (Minas Tirith)
MF- Elrohir (Rivendell)
FW- Gothmog (Angband)
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)

Most goals: Gothmog (Angband)
Most assists: Melkor (Angband)
Most fantasy points: Gothmog (Angband)
Most saves: Melian (Doriath)

Group A: Rivendell / Fornost
Group B: Tol-in-Gaurhoth / Edoras
Group C: Formenos / Doriath
Group D: Lothlorien / Osgiliath
Group E: Gondolin / Gondor
Group F: Tanequetil / Armenos
Group G: Minas Tirith / Mordor
Group H: Angband / Valimar

Victor: Angband

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Team names? Fun! My team shall be known as The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs.