Uderzo of the Downs, or, Asterix meets Middle-earth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Bêthberry · 01-23-2007, 12:01 PM

Tolkien once complained about his translators, that they just couldn't get the names right. A similar problem exists in the Asterix comicbook, which has been translated into about a gazillion languages, with the intent to maintain the humourous puns in the names. This results in several characters having different names in different languages. (She who I know as Panacea is Falbala to Estelyn.)

So, well, what would we Barrow Downers become if we journied to that little Gaulish village?

Now, it is just too obvious to make Rune into Runix and Boromir88 into Borix. Any good ones for them? (Well, Rune could be Marx. hee hee) Here's some other suggestions to start you off:

Fordim: Canonix or Mastix

Mister Underhill: Flix

Hookbill: Syndix

Estelyn: Patientia

piosenniel: Medicinia

Child: Historia

Nogrod: Philosophix

Squatter: Slapstix or Doubleclix

davem: gnostix

Lalwende: Woodbinia

Mithalwen: Furiosa

SaucepanMan: Yardstix

Macalaure: Heimlix

me? I'm obviously Rpgina.

C'mon; there's lots of Downers out there who need a passport to that other celtic country.

Nogrod · 01-23-2007, 01:20 PM

Fun!

Staying with the Gaul-names, Lommy should be Penguinix, of course. But if we could took her as a Roman she should be Diluvia Borealia or with an anglisised version of it (as the translators of Asterix tend to go for): Flodentia.

Child should be Mater Paternalia (in a positive sense of it) or then just Bella Organisatorix

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-24-2007, 07:22 AM

Great fun indeed - I'm a big Asterix fan! Here are my suggestions:

Guinevere: Palantíria

littlemanpoet: Bardix

Formendacil: Serioustix

thephantom: Mysterix

alatar: Sequencix

Kuruharan: Khazâdix

narfforc: Parodix

HerenIstarion: Istarix

Aiwendil: Silmarix

...afterthought - Do you think we should let Lush have "Dominatrix"?

Bêthberry · 01-24-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

But if we could took her as a Roman she should be Diluvia Borealia or with an anglisised version of it (as the translators of Asterix tend to go for): Flodentia.

Ohhh, great idea, Noggie, to go for the Latin possibilities also. I will be back with some too!

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Originally Posted by Estelyn Telcontar

...afterthought - Do you think we should let Lush have "Dominatrix"?

Great contributions, Esty! It's a pity that Asterixish is a gendered language where the -ix signifies a male name. Still that is rather appropriate for our resident feminist, no?

Mithalwen · 01-24-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Mithalwen: Furiosa

Now feel a bit Lachrymosa and Dolorosa..

I played Assurancetourix (Cacafonix) in the Frogsoc Christmas Show at Uni... I still have my cunningly crafted gaulish helmet somewhere....

Bêthberry · 01-24-2007, 06:58 PM

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Now feel a bit Lachrymosa and Dolorosa..

Aww. But I like the Furies. They are three of my favourite ancient dieties, for they are so like modern defenders of victims and unavenged crimes and so undeserving of their nasty phallocentric reputation. Plus add in a bit of these folks: Il Furiosi . (It fits some of your profile.) Would La Bella Furiosa be more becoming--put you in the Roman camp? Or perhaps a riff off one of your fav writers, Jane Austen? Hmm, must ponder that.

On to others now...

Thenamir :: Numismatickrisis

dancing spawn :: insectus twirlicus

davem :: mondroiticus (new one, Roman vs Gaul)

THE Ka :: Aesthetix

Legolas :: Pharmafix

mormegil :: Primus Bananicus

Tolkien :: Catholix

working on something for Hilde and some others . . . Yes, I have too much Asterix in my head. Hey, I even devoted one entire day of a two week tour of France to Parc Asterix. Rode the Menhir Express and everything.

Mithalwen · 01-25-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Aww. But I like the Furies. They are three of my favourite ancient dieties, for they are so like modern defenders of victims and unavenged crimes and so undeserving of their nasty phallocentric reputation. Plus add in a bit of these folks: Il Furiosi . (It fits some of your profile.) Would La Bella Furiosa be more becoming--put you in the Roman camp? Or perhaps a riff off one of your fav writers, Jane Austen? Hmm, must ponder that.

Nah you've sold it to me... I (as often) took it literally as enraged ..which I can be but don't regard it as a permanent state - however as a feminisation of the musical direction "tempestuous and vigorous" it would be fair enough judgement

Mithalwen · 01-26-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Now, it is just too obvious to make Rune into Runix and Boromir88 into Borix. Any good ones for them? (Well, Rune could be Marx. hee hee) Here's some other suggestions to start you off:

Surely Boromir would be simply Laconix?

***Thenamir*** · 01-30-2007, 01:30 PM

I prefer to be known as Gnostix...

Bêthberry · 01-31-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Surely Boromir would be simply Laconix?

Well, not literally of course, Miz Mithalwen.

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I prefer to be known as Gnostix...

Well, I can't see that davem has laid any claim to that offered name, although I'm rather surprised at your choice, as the name connotes the heresy, in Christian churches, of gnosticism. I will have to refrain from secretly thinking of you as Heretix.

***Thenamir*** · 01-31-2007, 10:24 PM

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I will have to refrain from secretly thinking of you as Heretix.

Alas, so true. Considering some of my...right-leaning...posts, perhaps I should be Politix.

littlemanpoet · 02-02-2007, 10:20 AM

Uh....

Bêthberry: Daughtrix ad Goldberiosa (or some such grammatical construction)

Celuien: Ribitix

Eomer: Aimix

Macalaure · 03-15-2007, 03:49 PM

Hmm,.. what else?

Boromir ~ Devilfix

Lommy ~ Penguine

Celuien ~ Amphibia

morm ~ Chimpanzix

alatar ~ Filmcritix

Kuruharan ~ Pompus Maximus

Raynor ~ Archivix

Roa_Aoife · 03-15-2007, 06:21 PM

This looks like fun. However, what is Asterix, and how does this naming work?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-15-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

This looks like fun. However, what is Asterix, and how does this naming work?

Ditto.

And can littlemanpoet be Limerix? Or should I wait to find out more before letting my mind go play?

Bêthberry · 03-15-2007, 08:38 PM

Asterix is the plucky little hero of the magnificent series of comix that bear his name. It is largely through his efforts (with a little help from an ancient Druidic brew) and those of his buddy Obelix--a delivery man for large standing stones-- that the great and not so great Legions of Rome have been unable to subdue their little Gaulish village.

So, natch, the comix were originally in French and display a particularly Gaulic sense of humour. Lots of slapstick and running jokes along with witty word play, puns, allusions, parodies of parodies and a little deflating of cultural stereotypes. The comix have undergone translation into about every language on Earth except American and some of the characters' names have been changed to preserve puns in the translated language. Ah, the names.

The chief in English is Vitalstastistix; his wife is Impedimenta.; his nephew is Justforkix.
The druid is Getafix.
An old man is Geriatrix.
The bard is Cacaphonix.
The fishmonger is Unhygenix; his wife is Bacteria.
Obelix's dog is Dogmatix.
The village hot tamale is Estelyn Telcontar.

opps, scotch that. It's Panacea, who these days looks alot like our Modess.

Anyhow, you get the pix? Female names end in 'a' -- check out a Wiki list for more fun.

There's lots of Latin puns and for true history it provides often amazing specifix while overcoming the usual history soporifix. There's even an explanation for Stonehenge.

The official website offers fun.

I would proffer some more examples, but the night is late and there is somum not so bonum laborium still to be done.

Limerix for elempi? Hmm. I didn't know he wrote naughty verse.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-16-2007, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Limerix for elempi? Hmm. I didn't know he wrote naughty verse.

My memory fails so frequently, but not on this one. And... since when has it been almost two years?

Bêthberry · 03-17-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry
Limerix for elempi? Hmm. I didn't know he wrote naughty verse.

My memory fails so frequently, but not on this one. And... since when has it been almost two years?

Ah, but once, twice, even thrice, that hardly represents a telling trait or idiosyncracy, especially given all the sonnets he's posted recently. He really needs to produce more limericks to deserve that name. Unless you name him ironically.

Forsaking the Gauls, here's some Roman nomenclature:

Hookbill: Pundit vis comica

Feanor: Frivola

Jenny Hallu: Connubia Blissfilia

Roa : Matrimonia

narfforc: Parodum NonFinitum, or, more simply, parodix

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-17-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Unless you name him ironically.

That too.

Bêthberry · 03-17-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fea

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Unless you name him ironically.

That too.

Ah. I had considered "limn" as a possible derivation for Limerix in addition to limericks, which would fit our Rohan Innkeeper, as he does have a way with words, illuminating or describing things, and it is an archaic word, which he plays with there.

Limnerix?

Or just a plain old spelling conundrum of -icks or ics and -x. Then we could have

Essex : Ex

Of course, we would have to divise a way to differentiate an Essex from a Middlesex, should we ever have a member of that name. Would the Middle one be Sx? Now there's the rub.

Anguirel · 03-18-2007, 03:10 AM

Eomer - Kiltix

Lalaith - Amoria

Mithalwen - Magna Maternalia

Fea - Artemisia (seemed right for a noted Hunter and Dark Lady)

Kath - Mataharia

Cailin - Orangina (sorry, Dutch pun, couldn't resist)

Lord, Werewolf lengends have a massive trend towards the female ... let's see if I can redress this...

The Saucepan Man - Prolix

Kuruharan - Luminarix

the phantom - Pompeius Magnus

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-18-2007, 08:37 AM

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Fea - Artemisia (seemed right for a noted Hunter and Dark Lady)

This is wicked unsettling. I woke up a half hour ago thinking of the plant out of nowhere.

01-23-2007, 12:01 PM	#1
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 5,997	Uderzo of the Downs, or, Asterix meets Middle-earth Tolkien once complained about his translators, that they just couldn't get the names right. A similar problem exists in the Asterix comicbook, which has been translated into about a gazillion languages, with the intent to maintain the humourous puns in the names. This results in several characters having different names in different languages. (She who I know as Panacea is Falbala to Estelyn.) So, well, what would we Barrow Downers become if we journied to that little Gaulish village? Now, it is just too obvious to make Rune into Runix and Boromir88 into Borix. Any good ones for them? (Well, Rune could be Marx. hee hee) Here's some other suggestions to start you off: Fordim: Canonix or Mastix Mister Underhill: Flix Hookbill: Syndix Estelyn: Patientia piosenniel: Medicinia Child: Historia Nogrod: Philosophix Squatter: Slapstix or Doubleclix davem: gnostix Lalwende: Woodbinia Mithalwen: Furiosa SaucepanMan: Yardstix Macalaure: Heimlix me? I'm obviously Rpgina. C'mon; there's lots of Downers out there who need a passport to that other celtic country. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

01-23-2007, 01:20 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Fun! Staying with the Gaul-names, Lommy should be Penguinix, of course. But if we could took her as a Roman she should be Diluvia Borealia or with an anglisised version of it (as the translators of Asterix tend to go for): Flodentia. Child should be Mater Paternalia (in a positive sense of it) or then just Bella Organisatorix __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-24-2007, 07:22 AM	#3
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Great fun indeed - I'm a big Asterix fan! Here are my suggestions: Guinevere: Palantíria littlemanpoet: Bardix Formendacil: Serioustix thephantom: Mysterix alatar: Sequencix Kuruharan: Khazâdix narfforc: Parodix HerenIstarion: Istarix Aiwendil: Silmarix ...afterthought - Do you think we should let Lush have "Dominatrix"? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...' Last edited by Estelyn Telcontar; 01-24-2007 at 08:52 AM.

01-30-2007, 01:30 PM	#9
*Thenamir* Spectre of Capitalism Join Date: May 2001 Location: Battling evil bureaucrats at Zeta Aquilae Posts: 987	I prefer to be known as Gnostix... __________________ The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~~ Marcus Aurelius

03-15-2007, 06:21 PM	#14
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	This looks like fun. However, what is Asterix, and how does this naming work? __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

02-02-2007, 10:20 AM	#12
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Uh.... Bêthberry: Daughtrix ad Goldberiosa (or some such grammatical construction) Celuien: Ribitix Eomer: Aimix

03-15-2007, 03:49 PM	#13
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Hmm,.. what else? Boromir ~ Devilfix Lommy ~ Penguine Celuien ~ Amphibia morm ~ Chimpanzix alatar ~ Filmcritix Kuruharan ~ Pompus Maximus Raynor ~ Archivix

03-15-2007, 08:38 PM	#16
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 5,997	Hic transit glorius Mundix Asterix is the plucky little hero of the magnificent series of comix that bear his name. It is largely through his efforts (with a little help from an ancient Druidic brew) and those of his buddy Obelix--a delivery man for large standing stones-- that the great and not so great Legions of Rome have been unable to subdue their little Gaulish village. So, natch, the comix were originally in French and display a particularly Gaulic sense of humour. Lots of slapstick and running jokes along with witty word play, puns, allusions, parodies of parodies and a little deflating of cultural stereotypes. The comix have undergone translation into about every language on Earth except American and some of the characters' names have been changed to preserve puns in the translated language. Ah, the names. The chief in English is Vitalstastistix; his wife is Impedimenta.; his nephew is Justforkix. The druid is Getafix. An old man is Geriatrix. The bard is Cacaphonix. The fishmonger is Unhygenix; his wife is Bacteria. Obelix's dog is Dogmatix. The village hot tamale is Estelyn Telcontar. opps, scotch that. It's Panacea, who these days looks alot like our Modess. Anyhow, you get the pix? Female names end in 'a' -- check out a Wiki list for more fun. There's lots of Latin puns and for true history it provides often amazing specifix while overcoming the usual history soporifix. There's even an explanation for Stonehenge. The official website offers fun. I would proffer some more examples, but the night is late and there is somum not so bonum laborium still to be done. Limerix for elempi? Hmm. I didn't know he wrote naughty verse. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

03-18-2007, 03:10 AM	#21
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Asterix and the Werewolves... Eomer - Kiltix Lalaith - Amoria Mithalwen - Magna Maternalia Fea - Artemisia (seemed right for a noted Hunter and Dark Lady) Kath - Mataharia Cailin - Orangina (sorry, Dutch pun, couldn't resist) Lord, Werewolf lengends have a massive trend towards the female ... let's see if I can redress this... The Saucepan Man - Prolix Kuruharan - Luminarix the phantom - Pompeius Magnus __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso