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Voralphion · 11-07-2002, 05:56 PM

One of the gifts given to men by Eru was that they were not subject to what was played in the music as the elves were, ie they were not subject to fate, but it is seen in the Silmarillion and LOTR that many of the men in the tales seem to be controlled by fate.
My question is, were the early men subject to the music, as in the third theme of the music one of the movements was obviously men, and the gift didn't set in until the ages of the dominion of men, or did the men set their own destiny and it just appeared to be governed by fate.

littlemanpoet · 11-09-2002, 09:55 PM

My understanding is that those Men who involved themselves in the affairs of Elves tied their destinies to the Fate of Elves. Tuor and Turin are the most obvious examples of this - Earendil, too, I suppose. Hope that helps.

11-07-2002, 05:56 PM	#1
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	Music One of the gifts given to men by Eru was that they were not subject to what was played in the music as the elves were, ie they were not subject to fate, but it is seen in the Silmarillion and LOTR that many of the men in the tales seem to be controlled by fate. My question is, were the early men subject to the music, as in the third theme of the music one of the movements was obviously men, and the gift didn't set in until the ages of the dominion of men, or did the men set their own destiny and it just appeared to be governed by fate. __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

11-09-2002, 09:55 PM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	My understanding is that those Men who involved themselves in the affairs of Elves tied their destinies to the Fate of Elves. Tuor and Turin are the most obvious examples of this - Earendil, too, I suppose. Hope that helps.