What important scenes were missed out of the movies? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

10-21-2005, 02:16 PM

I know that LOTR is a hell of a lot to fit into 9-and-a-half hours, or even, what, 12? hours for the extended trilogy, but i was so disappointed not to see Eomer's coronation and Eowyn and Faramir's wedding.

What does everybody else think? What else do you feel was missing?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 10-21-2005, 04:47 PM

It is 12 houres, I saw the extended versions yesterday! It was fun, now for a Star Wars marathon. YAY !

I would like to see the conspiracy beeing unmasked, showing Merry and Pippin's personaletys.

Off course there is the whole Tom Bombadil thing!

I allso think that the meeting with Gildor, is a part of the development of Frodo and Sam's personaleies.

Most important I miss The wole Scouring of the Shire, mostley because it shows how much, the hobbits have developed!
Allso there is the scene where Saruman get's killed and the mist is rising and first wavered, to the west; but a cold wind dissolved it. That would have been a great scene.

Gothmog · 10-21-2005, 05:50 PM

Yes, the Scouring of course. And I really hoped for a better scene of Saruman getting killed than the one offered in the original version, but the extended only- that's right, extended it. The barrowdowns, as a result of introducing Tom Bombadil. And Rune has already written everything important I think

Then there's the huge discussion about what we DIDN'T want to see but had to anyway, but that belongs to this thread.

The movies aren't quite 12 h, are they? Somewhat shorter I think, like 11h 40 min or something. I saw them together too

And like Rune, we're going for a Star Wars marathon soon.

I could have made a copy of Rune's post as well as posting this, as it turned out...

Oroaranion · 10-23-2005, 05:21 AM

not quite sure whether this belongs on here, but the movies show Arwen rescuing Frodo after Weathertop, whereas it was actually Glorfindel in the book. also, where was Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth? and the Grey Company, Aragorn's fellow Dunedain? and all the others that marched to Minas Tirith in its hour of need. enough said really. i dont think that Peter Jackson liked the race of Men form the books really, probably because all other races else looked better on screen.

Legolas · 10-24-2005, 08:09 PM

Glorfindel...would've been cool to see.
The journey home, and the Scouring.
Cornering Saruman in Orthanc.

Rimbaud · 10-25-2005, 02:43 AM

Not much to add to the above, but some small detail: I would like more to have been made of Merry & Pippin's extra height. It's related to their growth as characters, and I suppose inherently tied in with the missing Scouring section, but still, they seemed the same height as Sam and Frodo at the end, which didn't ring true.

Eruanna · 10-25-2005, 05:29 PM

I wasn't too bothered by the omission of the scouring of the shire. It would have been a bit of an anti-climax and I seem to recall there were quite a few complaints about the 'multiple endings' to RotK.
Most of the scenes that I missed most in the theatrical versions were put back in the extended dvds. However, I still think that Saruman was not given enough screen time in the last film and just finding the Palantir lying in the water, without any explanation about how it got there was a bit of a wasted opportunity.

arcticstorm · 10-25-2005, 06:19 PM

I really enjoyed the movies as they were, but one scene that had tremendous inpact much later on in the book was that of the barrow downs. I believe that it was Gandalf who said that Merry was able to hurt the Witch King because of his barrow blade. I believe that he said that with any other blade he would not have been able to give him the original hurt.

Ardeth Bay · 10-26-2005, 10:31 AM

The only part i really missed was the muster of Gondor before the battle of Pellenor Fields

Where was Imrahil, Forlong the fat, Hirluin, Derufin, and all the others that came to the aid of Minas Tirith.

And who was that guy they called Irolas-was he supposed to take imrahil's place

Frodo Baggins · 10-31-2005, 06:55 PM

I wrote this in my xanga a few weeks ago

I was thinking yesderday about how the movie producers handled the love story of Faramir and Eowyn. I feel they downplayed it too much. Had I never read the story for myself I am not sure I would have known thet they ever really fell in love or married. I was expecting to hear from Faramir " Then I will say, Eowyn of Rohan, that you are beautiful ." I got an explanation of spring rain and an embrace. The whole dialogue of Faramir taming a shieldmaiden from the north and Eowyn's speech about how she will no longer be a shieldmaiden but a healer is such a golden, yet oft tragically overlooked, part of the book . One of the best parts in the whole saga is when Faramir and Eowyn kiss while standing atop the wall in front of everyone! You would think with all the gratuitous (and at times unnecessary) kissing scenes between Aragorn and Arwen they could shove one kiss of Faramir and Eowyn in there. Their kiss in the story is the culmination of two people who have lived their whole lives with hardly a semblance of love from anyone who finally discover somone they love who truly loves them in return . Yes, I am dissatisfied and you can tell Peter Jackson I said so.

Rhod the Red · 05-06-2006, 03:40 AM

I was dissapointed Gildor wasn't in the movie.

Letty · 05-26-2006, 08:49 PM

The scene when Saruman talked to Aragorn,Gandalf and Theoden.
And the feast in Rivendell.
And Gandalf`s letter to Frodo in "The Prancing Pony".

Glirdan · 05-26-2006, 08:52 PM

*mutters out loud* Curse you PJ! Curse you for allowing Arwen to knock out Glorfindel, hide him in a bush and take his horse!! Curse you!!!! *Looks quickly around* Ummm...I...uhhh...*runs away*

ArathorofBarahir · 05-29-2006, 12:15 PM

The scenes that I would have liked to have scene in the extended editions would have been the ones that involves Tom Bombadil and when the hobbits pass the barrow-downs and would also liked to have seen the scouring of the shire.

10-21-2005, 02:16 PM	#1
random elf 800 Guest Posts: n/a	What important scenes were missed out of the movies? I know that LOTR is a hell of a lot to fit into 9-and-a-half hours, or even, what, 12? hours for the extended trilogy, but i was so disappointed not to see Eomer's coronation and Eowyn and Faramir's wedding. What does everybody else think? What else do you feel was missing?

10-21-2005, 05:50 PM	#3
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	Yes, the Scouring of course. And I really hoped for a better scene of Saruman getting killed than the one offered in the original version, but the extended only- that's right, extended it. The barrowdowns, as a result of introducing Tom Bombadil. And Rune has already written everything important I think Then there's the huge discussion about what we DIDN'T want to see but had to anyway, but that belongs to this thread. The movies aren't quite 12 h, are they? Somewhat shorter I think, like 11h 40 min or something. I saw them together too And like Rune, we're going for a Star Wars marathon soon. I could have made a copy of Rune's post as well as posting this, as it turned out... __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker...

10-23-2005, 05:21 AM	#4
Oroaranion Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dol Amroth Posts: 94	not quite sure whether this belongs on here, but the movies show Arwen rescuing Frodo after Weathertop, whereas it was actually Glorfindel in the book. also, where was Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth? and the Grey Company, Aragorn's fellow Dunedain? and all the others that marched to Minas Tirith in its hour of need. enough said really. i dont think that Peter Jackson liked the race of Men form the books really, probably because all other races else looked better on screen. __________________ I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed. I felled the black serpent. A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset!

10-24-2005, 08:09 PM	#5
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Glorfindel...would've been cool to see. The journey home, and the Scouring. Cornering Saruman in Orthanc. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

10-25-2005, 02:43 AM	#6
Rimbaud The Perilous Poet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Heart of the matter Posts: 1,062	Not much to add to the above, but some small detail: I would like more to have been made of Merry & Pippin's extra height. It's related to their growth as characters, and I suppose inherently tied in with the missing Scouring section, but still, they seemed the same height as Sam and Frodo at the end, which didn't ring true. __________________ And all the rest is literature

10-25-2005, 05:29 PM	#7
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	I wasn't too bothered by the omission of the scouring of the shire. It would have been a bit of an anti-climax and I seem to recall there were quite a few complaints about the 'multiple endings' to RotK. Most of the scenes that I missed most in the theatrical versions were put back in the extended dvds. However, I still think that Saruman was not given enough screen time in the last film and just finding the Palantir lying in the water, without any explanation about how it got there was a bit of a wasted opportunity. __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

10-25-2005, 06:19 PM	#8
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	I really enjoyed the movies as they were, but one scene that had tremendous inpact much later on in the book was that of the barrow downs. I believe that it was Gandalf who said that Merry was able to hurt the Witch King because of his barrow blade. I believe that he said that with any other blade he would not have been able to give him the original hurt.

10-26-2005, 10:31 AM	#9
Ardeth Bay Newly Deceased Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 10	The only part i really missed was the muster of Gondor before the battle of Pellenor Fields Where was Imrahil, Forlong the fat, Hirluin, Derufin, and all the others that came to the aid of Minas Tirith. And who was that guy they called Irolas-was he supposed to take imrahil's place __________________ Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow....

10-31-2005, 06:55 PM	#10
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	I wrote this in my xanga a few weeks ago I was thinking yesderday about how the movie producers handled the love story of Faramir and Eowyn. I feel they downplayed it too much. Had I never read the story for myself I am not sure I would have known thet they ever really fell in love or married. I was expecting to hear from Faramir " Then I will say, Eowyn of Rohan, that you are beautiful ." I got an explanation of spring rain and an embrace. The whole dialogue of Faramir taming a shieldmaiden from the north and Eowyn's speech about how she will no longer be a shieldmaiden but a healer is such a golden, yet oft tragically overlooked, part of the book . One of the best parts in the whole saga is when Faramir and Eowyn kiss while standing atop the wall in front of everyone! You would think with all the gratuitous (and at times unnecessary) kissing scenes between Aragorn and Arwen they could shove one kiss of Faramir and Eowyn in there. Their kiss in the story is the culmination of two people who have lived their whole lives with hardly a semblance of love from anyone who finally discover somone they love who truly loves them in return . Yes, I am dissatisfied and you can tell Peter Jackson I said so. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

05-06-2006, 03:40 AM	#11
Rhod the Red Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 257	I was dissapointed Gildor wasn't in the movie. __________________ Head of the Fifth Order of the Istari Tenure: Fourth Age(Year 1) - Present Currently operating in Melbourne, Australia

05-26-2006, 08:49 PM	#12
Letty Animated Skeleton Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 48	The scene when Saruman talked to Aragorn,Gandalf and Theoden. And the feast in Rivendell. And Gandalf`s letter to Frodo in "The Prancing Pony".

05-26-2006, 08:52 PM	#13
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	mutters out loud Curse you PJ! Curse you for allowing Arwen to knock out Glorfindel, hide him in a bush and take his horse!! Curse you!!!! Looks quickly around Ummm...I...uhhh...runs away __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

05-29-2006, 12:15 PM	#14
ArathorofBarahir Wight Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Crickhallow Posts: 247	The scenes that I would have liked to have scene in the extended editions would have been the ones that involves Tom Bombadil and when the hobbits pass the barrow-downs and would also liked to have seen the scouring of the shire. __________________ King of the Dead: The dead do not suffer the living to pass. Aragorn: You will suffer me.