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07-14-2005, 03:46 AM | #1 |
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Is this all there is?
Check out the link. Do you think this is all there is to Tolkien?
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~imcfa...et/fantasy.htm
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07-14-2005, 04:36 AM | #2 |
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That's hilarious! Thanks, daeron, for sharing that very funny article with us!
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07-14-2005, 06:13 AM | #3 |
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Yea, 'tis a good laugh. But...
Twenty years from now, go and look in a bookshop. You will see numerous books in which the author has seemingly followed that guide word for word. Of course, nothing in Tolkien comes from that list.
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There are more examples but I'm only putting them in to show that though a lot of what this person is saying is correct there is more to the books Tolkien wrote.
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Er...Does this guy not get that it's fantasy...FANTASY. Quote:
FANTASY! IT MEANS IT'S NOT REAL! Someone should really tell him that. |
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07-14-2005, 10:36 AM | #6 |
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I thought it was really funny, I loved the bit about the maiden warriors!
"no one in Epic Fantasy Novels ever has sex." That puts paid to a few of our recent discussions (in 'Oo la la Luthien' and 'Aragorn and Arwen more than kissing', I think ) Thanks for the laugh daeron
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07-14-2005, 11:00 AM | #7 | |
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I really liked this:
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07-14-2005, 02:28 PM | #8 |
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Very hilarious... More than few good sigs in there...
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07-14-2005, 04:29 PM | #9 |
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LOL..funny indeed...that reminds me of the formula for expository essays.....but really, when you look at books a lot of them seemed to resumble each other. (that doesn't limit to fantasy genre only...a lot of other books too...) i.e. Romeo and Juliet is like the ultimate cliche of Romance.....
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07-14-2005, 04:46 PM | #10 |
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That's true. The romance formula consists of 2, maybe 3 steps.
Fantasy has lots.
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07-14-2005, 05:01 PM | #11 | |
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Anyways, there's no resemblance to Tolkien, but it is rather funny. And I've seen some stories grade-school students have written that seem to follow those guidelines. |
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True, you've got me there. However, I mostly meant the overall tone of the site, a haha feel, to Tolkien's style of writing, which was more developed and sensible than the site. You're right, there are parallels between the two:
Motley Bunch of Companions=Fellowship Wise but Useless Guide=Gandalf (anything but useless) Tough Old Warriors=Dunedain (?) Pure Maiden Warrior=Eowyn And in The Silmarillion: Quote:
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I actually think that fantasy must be one of the most difficult genres to work within. The master of the genre has already been and gone, and there are so many of us who will make sweeping statements just like the one I have made, that it would be almost impossible to convince us otherwise! And that's despite the fact that I'd love there to be another Tolkien... Quote:
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07-15-2005, 11:16 AM | #15 |
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Yes I agree...Tolkien's evil vs good and the Quest have become the cliche of the fantasy genre(only plotwise) because so many people tried to follow his steps because of his success. Yet LOTR still stands out, because I have yet to see a fantasy knitted so perfectly into a myth the author created. So, LOTR is not a cliche by itself, but in the genre it seems to be one..(does this make sense? )
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How Long is the Coast of Middle Earth?
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Map of Nehwon Or maybe the (known) world shape has something to do with the slow modes of transportation in the stereotypical non-technological fantasy world! Cheers! Lyta
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