Balrog Wars - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elrond Jr · 03-05-2003, 01:48 AM

Yeah, I know this may sound dumb and I may be asking an obvious question, but there was a war at some point between dwarves and balrogs right? Something about Azog and some dwarf was avenging his father. But I'm sure everyone's seen the movie and how the balrog was portrayed. And the trouble Gandalf had killing it. How could the dwarves collectively have killed any one balrog, let alone an army of them. I just don't understand it.

Mattius · 03-05-2003, 02:44 AM

Azog was an orc, not a Blarog, you are refering to the dwarf orc wars, there was no balrog wars.

Dain · 03-05-2003, 04:37 AM

It did take the balrog a whole year to kill Nain I, Durin VI's son, so they must have been doing something to hold it off for that long... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]...but there's not much you can do against Balrogs in the end. They got Feanor, after all (albeit a bunch of them). Dwarves are some of the best warriors in ME (held of young Glaurung, almost killed Beren (we're sorry!)), but a single Balrog is still a tough opponenet, especially for the third age. Even big orcs like Azog and Bolg present problems, though the Dwarves did win the war.

It's similar with Dragons--they are just so powerful they can overthrow a whole kingdom (and then be killed by a good/lucky shot!). I wonder if there is any tale of Dwarves actually holding off the incursion of a dragon into one of their kingdoms...

balrogman · 03-05-2003, 05:54 PM

Dain, your just out to prove that dwarves are better than all the other races aren't you?lol [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

nPiLL · 03-05-2003, 06:09 PM

Could someone tell me what book this is in? I only have the LotR, The Hobbit and the Silmarillion and i dont think this is in any of those.

Voralphion · 03-05-2003, 06:20 PM

It is in the appendices in LOTR, sorry I cant give you the exact one as I dont hve my book with me.

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-05-2003, 06:46 PM

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Dain, your just out to prove that dwarves are better than all the other races aren't you?

It's a sure bet. Any challenge to Dwarfendom, and Dain will be there straight away. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

the guy who be short · 03-06-2003, 09:19 AM

and i, jay son of gimli son of gloin son off groin son of farin son of borin son of nain son of thorin son of thrain son of nain son of durin will be there to help him also.
and its in appendix A part 3. i know all this off by heart. a true dwarf am i

Burzdol · 03-07-2003, 11:56 AM

Guess we should tell elves to stay away from this forum, huh?

Personally I don't think dwarves could beat a balrog. And where does it say there was a whole army of them?

~Burzdol~

03-05-2003, 01:48 AM	#1
Elrond Jr Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 25	Balrog Wars Yeah, I know this may sound dumb and I may be asking an obvious question, but there was a war at some point between dwarves and balrogs right? Something about Azog and some dwarf was avenging his father. But I'm sure everyone's seen the movie and how the balrog was portrayed. And the trouble Gandalf had killing it. How could the dwarves collectively have killed any one balrog, let alone an army of them. I just don't understand it. __________________ If winners never quit, and quitters never win. How did they get the phrase, "Quit while you're ahead"? Rate me, plz!

03-05-2003, 02:44 AM	#2
Mattius Soul of Fire Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Steel Posts: 666	Azog was an orc, not a Blarog, you are refering to the dwarf orc wars, there was no balrog wars. __________________ A problem shared is a problem halved, so is your problem really yours or just half of someone else's?

03-05-2003, 04:37 AM	#3
Dain Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Iron Hills Posts: 127	It did take the balrog a whole year to kill Nain I, Durin VI's son, so they must have been doing something to hold it off for that long... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]...but there's not much you can do against Balrogs in the end. They got Feanor, after all (albeit a bunch of them). Dwarves are some of the best warriors in ME (held of young Glaurung, almost killed Beren (we're sorry!)), but a single Balrog is still a tough opponenet, especially for the third age. Even big orcs like Azog and Bolg present problems, though the Dwarves did win the war. It's similar with Dragons--they are just so powerful they can overthrow a whole kingdom (and then be killed by a good/lucky shot!). I wonder if there is any tale of Dwarves actually holding off the incursion of a dragon into one of their kingdoms... __________________ Only I have looked through the shadow of the Gate. Beyond the shadow it waits for you still: Durin's Bane.

03-05-2003, 05:54 PM	#4
balrogman Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: that place with the stuff Posts: 102	Dain, your just out to prove that dwarves are better than all the other races aren't you?lol [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ should i stay or should i go?

03-05-2003, 06:20 PM	#6
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	It is in the appendices in LOTR, sorry I cant give you the exact one as I dont hve my book with me. __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

03-05-2003, 06:09 PM	#5
nPiLL Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: An aching yet comfortable crevice in Moria. Posts: 59	Could someone tell me what book this is in? I only have the LotR, The Hobbit and the Silmarillion and i dont think this is in any of those.

03-06-2003, 09:19 AM	#8
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	and i, jay son of gimli son of gloin son off groin son of farin son of borin son of nain son of thorin son of thrain son of nain son of durin will be there to help him also. and its in appendix A part 3. i know all this off by heart. a true dwarf am i

03-07-2003, 11:56 AM	#9
Burzdol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Fair City of Rivendell Posts: 274	Guess we should tell elves to stay away from this forum, huh? Personally I don't think dwarves could beat a balrog. And where does it say there was a whole army of them? ~Burzdol~ __________________ "Kill them all for all I care. You just keep that bow away from me!"