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06-13-2005, 03:05 PM | #1 |
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Eminence Grise-or "Grey is the new White"
The Lord of the Rings is a book that so ennobles the underappreciated colour grey that you'd think it had been written by the Civil Service.
Firstly, grey is Gandalf's old-and, I would say, his natural, innate-colour. It symbolises his unwillingness to adopt absolute positions; his doubt in himself; and his humility. Truly, it is a colour befitting the Istar who, alone, of his Order, is willing to admit that he fears Sauron. It also links him with the wisdom of the Elves, with Elrond and Galadriel, of which more will be said later. Of course, the Istar wearing absolute White falls into the trap of pride; though Saruman's fall does not in itself taint white. It only shows that he who believes himself worthy of White can never be so; that pride and self-confidence can be overweening and destructive. Compare this with Gandalf's return after he has truly earnt his White robes; he still veils himself in Grey, and is referred to as Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgrim. The grey is importantly the Elven colour, and the colour of raiment gifted to Elf-friends. The Men of Gondor and the Dunedain of the North have clean grey eyes, a reminder of the former beauty and honour of Westernesse. Frodo and Sam, even, are exalted by their grey; so that Faramir's rangers consider their being Elves, though Elves are supposed to be "wondrous fair to look upon". Later, Frodo, explaining about Galadriel, says: "She it was who clothed us in elven-grey." Yet Grey, and this is important, seems to stand for the unexpected, the enchanted, the stuff of fairytales which startles Men like Eomer and Theoden. in this way the Hobbits themselves are "grey", like Ents, "Quickbeam, a tall grey ent." This contrasts with the practical militarism of the perceived White wielded by Denethor and his armies: "No travellers pass here, only servants of the Dark Tower or the White." Here we see how perilously close White and Black have come, as with Saruman; and it is left to Grey to be the true white, and salvation. So...ah...discuss!
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That's an interesting comparison, Anguirel.
To some cultures, white symbolizes purity, in others but in the case of LotR, and other books by Tolkien, grey is a very noble color, instead of symbolizing tainted white. Quote:
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It is interesting how Tolkien seems to reject some of the conventional "modern" characteristics that are associated with grey, many of which are negative or at least ambivalent. I looked up 'grey' in an on-line source, and here are some of these associations:
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I've often wondered if there is a connection between Gandalf's personality and the colour he is 'assigned'. He is clearly on the side of Light to us as readers, but this is not always the case to the inhabitants of Middle Earth, as some view him as untrustworthy. Interestingly, one of his nicknames, Stormcrow, comes from his tendency to arrive bearing bad news; storms are also associated with the colour grey.
Gandalf can also raise questions about seemingly clear cut moral matters, as shown in his discussion with Frodo about Gollum. Frodo cannot work out why Gollum deserves to live, he is a 'bad guy' and is dangerous. But Gandalf points out that despite all this, who are we to say who ought to live or die? Grey symbolises an area somewhere between absolute good and absolute evil, as in calling a moral matter 'a grey area'. In his advice, he is rarely didactic, instead prompting people to consider matters for themselves. But then Gandalf is also not always grey, he is also white, and does his personality and behaviour change all that much after the change? Grey is a gentle colour, which is why I think it may have been chosen as a characteristic eye colour for Numenorian Men. It also has some connotations of wisdom as it is associated with age (though I don't feel any wiser as I get more grey ). Grey is also the colour of mist and fog, which may confer a magical quality to anyone clothed in grey, or who has grey, 'misty' eyes. That Elven cloaks are described as being grey could be a very poetic use of language, associating their camouflaging qualities with mists. Quote:
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This thread makes me think of a couple of Proverbs:
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06-14-2005, 11:24 AM | #6 |
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Well A. you did such an excellent job on an excellent topic I can only say,
Yeppers. [w/ a capital Y] Nice to see you Underhillo, and thanls for the ref's. JRRT indeed reached into the twiligt [a grey variant imo] to rescue European mythology from dusty academia and bring it into the Light. Not by translating but by a masterful creative/assimilaitive act unparralled in the history of the world. Only Gurdjieff's All and Everything attempts something on that scale imo. [ though Gurdjieff was building his cosmology from different more 'historical, if more obscure and esoteric elements than the Prof.] And I trust JRRT's theology more. But I see parallels to the outrage post now next door. If we see [if it can rightly be called that] only in terms of Black and White, we miss reality in which almost nothing in this world is so. Did not Christ say, 'God alone is good'. And yet we must continually traffic in much that is not God. OF course we have to try and do so wisely, and it is here that we either stay enmeshed in a dualistic fantasy world that demonizes anything 'other' just as ROhan and Gondor was well on the way to doing with the Elves, or we fall into a Lorien-like isolationism cut off even from our nearest kin just up the river and down the path. Feanor was another example that could only see the Valar in black and white terms, and once one Vala had done him wrong he made them all guilty by the association of similar origin.
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In this way Radagast the Brown was perhaps "greyer" than Gandalf the grey; or perhaps grey leads to brown, the brown of decay, of death, of stagnation, yet indispensable to nature. Perhaps when the Elves fear becoming rustic and go into the West, they are preferring to depart grey than linger brown.
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06-14-2005, 11:59 AM | #8 |
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no allegory just applicable is LOTR may may I say the white is Evil in disguise base in my my opinion the inquisitors of spain consumed by there own piaty buring the unworthy whil gandalf the grey...the color of shadow...the undetected works lowly and unseen hidden in shadow(or grey) to make the world better he is only bested at staing hidden by two peole(the blue wizards )
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Of course, Grey is seen as being 'lesser' than White in that the Sindar are seen as lesser than the High Elves - the Calaquendi, or Elves of the Light. There is a clear hierarchy of Light Elves, Grey Elves & Dark Elves (Avari). But Middle earth in the Third Age is a 'Grey' world, a 'betwixt & between' world, straddling the 'Light' of earlier ages & the Darkness of later ones, so Gandalf the 'Grey'could be seen as symbolic of the Age in which he was present.
I can't help feeling that Grey is symbolic of 'passing' into the twilight. Gandalf the White is actually further from the world than Gandalf the White had been - he is closer to the Ainur he had been in Valinor, than the wizard he was. White is still the colour of holiness, but it is perhaps an increasingly 'otherworldly' holiness. When extreme 'Black' in the form of Sauron is removed from the world, so, it seems, is extreme White. Don't know where I'm going with this, but I can't see that Grey is seen as 'superior' by Tolkien to White. I can only think that Grey is meant to symbolise a kind of 'not belonging' to the world - being 'in' the world, but not 'of' it. Grey, therefore, is the colour of those who 'wander', who are without a 'home' - or who are far from their home. The Grey Elves are 'wanderers', sojourners in Middle earth - their 'home' is beyond the Sundering Seas. Gandalf is in the same position. As are the Numenoreans, exiled forever from their lost home. The Fellowship members are all in the same position. So, Grey is the colour of sadness, bereavement & exile. Or something like that... |
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I think, to coin another horrible piece of neophilia, that what you and I are both groping at is that Grey is in fact the new Green. By that I mean it is linked with the folklore surrounding Faerie-not necessarily Faerie as in Valinor, but Faerie as in ballads like Tam Lin:
"Tonight is Halloween And the faeries will be in sight If you wait for them at Mile's cross. Please come for me tonight. And later: At last he was himself again So she wrapped him in her cloak. She was rejoicing in her victory When the Queen of Faeries spoke. "If I had know, Tam Lin," she says "that you were up to no good I'd have taken out your green eyes and put in eyes of wood." "If I had known, Tam Lin," she says "you would have always been alone! For I'd have taken out your mortal heart And put in a heart of stone." This is best exemplified in the perilous forests of Lothlorien and Fangorn, each possessing hidden, ancient powers, sinister and benevolent and once, capricious: the fascinating and beautiful hybrid of Celtic religion and Christianity that are fairies. It is to this strange world, neither Heaven, Earth, nor Hell, that the ambiguous colour grey seems to refer. Green also functions in this respect, but in a more minor, cheerful, comic and reassuring capacity; we see Glorfindel's gem on the bridge repelling wraiths and Aragorn's Elessar; and green is prominent in Thranduil's jovial woodland court, not yet overcome by Lorien's lovely melancholy. But the nostalgic and painful grey has altogether more moving qualities. The link with exile from home holds very true.
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