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03-16-2005, 09:38 AM | #1 |
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Lord of the Rings: The Musical (No Joke!)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../arts_rings_dc
This seems very interesting. I reserve judgement unti more details come out. *has an image of orcs singing "Where There's a Whip, There's a Way"* |
03-16-2005, 09:45 AM | #2 |
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Hmmm. Hmmm, hmmmm
Well, it's gonna be quite....multicultural. That's all I can tell from reading that article. Hey, it may even be good, why not? All that it needs to do is treat certain scenes with respect.
But..eh, maybe I'm too conservative, but the idea of a musical after LOTR makes me cringe a bit.
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03-16-2005, 10:40 AM | #3 | |
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From the article-
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Who else is going to sing and dance? Saruman? The ents?
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03-16-2005, 12:00 PM | #4 |
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I'm interested in seeing the 'Gandalf-Witch King at the Gate' song and dance number.
"I will enter the city!" "You will not enter this city over my broken staff." Just think, the tension builds until the brass section goes wild, then in the silence thereafter we hear this tiny high-pitched voice sing, "Oh Faramir, Oh Faramir, Oh Faramir's a burning..." Can we pre-order tickets? |
03-16-2005, 12:18 PM | #5 |
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Gollem tap dances. And the orcs do the chorus line. According to a local Toronto paper.
Not. Well, a helicopter once landed on the stage when Miss Saigon played in Toronto. No telling what can be done with stage hydraulics these days. On the other hand, there is Wagner to think about. One hopes the producers have.
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03-16-2005, 01:25 PM | #6 |
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Well, the stage production of His Dark Materials, staged at the National Theatre in London, made very effective use of puppetry, costumes and staging technology (as well as the actors themselves) to produce what I thought was an excellent production. The same sort of thing might well be possible with Lord of the Rings (although I am not sure that Hobbits as puppets would work ). However, even though it was presented as two 3 hour plays, large chunks of the Dark Materials books were jettisoned for the stage production. Imagine how much of LotR (the book) they will have to leave out for this proposed musical. Although, as it is a musical, I suppose that numerous pages of dialogue and exposition can be replaced with song.
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03-16-2005, 01:52 PM | #7 |
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Maybe we'll see musical LotR crossovers soon....
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03-16-2005, 01:59 PM | #8 |
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Or maybe one of my favorites...
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03-17-2005, 07:57 AM | #9 |
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Muddy York becomes the Shire
Thank you Sauce for reminding us of the fairly successful adaptation of Pullman's His Dark Materials.
I would think that it is less a matter of converting the dialogue to song and the action to dance as to translate the many extensive passages of description of Middle earth into the set design and stage scenery. The theatre for this production, The Princess of Wales theatre (yes, it was named for the late Diana, Princess of Wales) will be renovated so that the stage will have 16 elevators. Perhaps more intriguing for audiences will be the renovation of the audience area into a Middle-earth forest. Obviously the backers of this production realise how much many readers of Tolkien long to live in Middle-earth. But don't let me stop the jokes. Here's a link for The Lord of the Rings Musical to inspire you all. Some might be impressed with the opening intro and music.
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03-17-2005, 12:27 PM | #10 |
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There having that in Toronto. Which is near me. Im definetly going when it comes out.
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03-18-2005, 04:36 PM | #11 |
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Finally a LOTR event that I can go to. They are always too far away for me to go. However, I hope this musical won't make LOTR seem ridiculus.
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Thanks for the link Bb. Colour me impressed.
The 'mission statement' by the creative team is encouraging too: Quote:
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03-22-2005, 11:01 PM | #13 |
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I, personally, think that it's going to be beautiful. From what I've read, and from what I've heard of the composers... I think it's definitely not going to be what other musicals are. I am very excited about it.
In fact, I'm auditioning for it. I'm just waiting for the Toronto audition dates to be announced. |
03-23-2005, 06:38 AM | #14 |
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Good luck to you for the audition, Tigerlily! Now that would give all Downers two reasons to go see it!
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03-23-2005, 09:33 PM | #15 |
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Well, at first I wasn't so sure, I mean, now there are two things to live up to now- the creation in the book and the creation in the movie. But it certainly is exciting, and they have already been working on it for four years...I'll definitely have to go.
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03-27-2005, 11:15 PM | #17 |
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I find it strange that none of the audition calls I've read have requested that actors bring a monologue. I'm pretty sure, though, that a main casting point for this show is going to be looks. It's all gonna be how tall this person can make that one look, whether or not this person could play off one or more of the races of Middle Earth... etc. I'm just guessing... it seems like it is going to be a hard show to cast.
I'm going to be at the Toronto open call in less than two weeks. I'm scared, but excited! I have so many odds against me for these auditions that it's crazy... I'm crazy... but it's the inspiration of the story alone that's keeping my head on straight about going. The characters in the story kept going despite their odds, so it would be shameful of me to not use that as inspiration for my audition. |
03-29-2005, 04:39 PM | #18 |
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I must admit... I am intrigued. I wish I could audition for it, golly that would rock, but alas I live too far away. At first the thought of a LoTR Musical seemed bogus, but now that I have seen more information on it, I might just have to see it when it comes to Broadway! Good Luck on the auditions Tigerlily!
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03-29-2005, 04:55 PM | #19 |
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There is an audition spot in Vancouver and though I'm young and oh-so-unexperienced, I'm oh-so-tempted...yes extremely tempted. Just imagine how cool it would be to get involved!
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03-30-2005, 01:27 PM | #20 |
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there's a musical of LotR? God help us all..... I can just picture Frodo and Sam marching up mt. doom singing a song....
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They come
For those of you who like to keep abreast of the casting news and production progress of the musical, here is an article from a Canadian newspaper. Rather than link to it, I have copied the article as links like this are notoriously short-lived. It is from The Globe and Mail newspaper online. I had no idea Elijah Wood was another Great White North export.
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04-04-2005, 11:50 AM | #22 |
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Hee hee! My friend told me about this. It sounds great from what i've read. I'm just waiting for it to roll into town though... I'm obsessed with theatre...
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04-07-2005, 11:09 AM | #23 |
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Maybe they would use Billy Boyd again ....... he is a trained singer and would make the height....
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04-15-2005, 04:02 PM | #24 |
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Good luck with your audition Tigerlily were all rooting for ya!
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04-24-2005, 07:12 PM | #25 |
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So, perhaps I should recap my experience at the auditions, no?
Well, I arrived there bright and early... around 8:30 in the morning, and there was already a huge line out the door and around the parking lot. I discovered later that I was number 408 of the non-Equity actors, and there were at least 300 or more Equity seen before they even started with non-Equity... so that means there were more than 700 people seen before me. Yikes! There were television crews all over of the place... luckily I avoided them because I was not "interesting" enough. Yes, there were some "interesting" people there. You could tell that there were just some die hard fans there who probably had no acting experience whatsoever. A few cloaks, elf ears, and one person with a large walking stick. I was in line next to three lovely people who I befriended that day. If I remember correctly, their names were Mariem, Rob, and Adrianna. Mariem and Adrianna were both singer/actors, and Rob was an actor/combat fighter. We were out in the sun in line for about 4 hours before we got to the sign in desk. After signing in we waited almost another 4 hours before we were seen. We found a little diner in the building where the auditions were being held and camped out there until our audition times. It was a long wait, but making friends in line sure did help out a lot. Many people were crowded in this large gym-like room with a disco ball on the ceiling... sitting, sleeping, or whatever, waiting to be seen. Just say "moo," because this was a cattle call if I've ever seen one. They were taking us in groups of 10 to be seen by the screeners. When we got downstairs there was someone there with a tape measure to make sure that people weren't lying about their height on their resumes. The woman I sang for was nice, but she told me that my voice was too classical sounding for what they are looking for. It probably didn't help that I'm not Canadian, too, so she didn't recognize any of my resume credits. So, I didn't make it past round one, and neither did any of my line friends. There were many, many, many people who did not make it past the screeners. I was so tired by the time I was seen that I fear hearing my voice. Ah well, I plan on auditioning again if they bring it to the States. Plus, I will have, hopefully, seen it by then and can try to mold my voice accordingly to match what they are looking for. All day all you heard was "no vibrato," so they want very clear true toned voices that are light... that what it seems like to me. By being in Toronto, though, I learned a little more about what is going into thie production and I am even more excitied by it now. It's strange, because I will forever link Toronto with LOTR in my head, because Toronto is where I attended The Gathering of the Fellowship (which, btw, they are organizing another one to coincide with the opening of the musical next year www.tolkiengathering.com), and now it's where I went to audition for the LOTR Musical. I tell ya, though, I think that this show it going to be stunning. I saw some skeletons of the puppetry and stilts they are using for the Black Riders... gah! Amazing! I can't wait to see this show! |
04-24-2005, 08:12 PM | #26 |
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Thanks for recounting your audition experience, Tigerlily Gamgee. I'm glad you can be so philosophical about such a cattle call. They are trying! Apparently there were over 300 people too at the Vancouver audition, and there were several others as well.
Will you be seeing the IMAX screening of LotR? I saw Star Wars on IMAX, so I would imagine that might be quite a thrill. I have heard some very interesting thoughts about this musical, points which I think in many ways are very complimentary to Tolkien himself. First of all, the guidelines for the roles are really very unique. It is rare to be told, "No one over 5' 7" tall"! And there are some other criteria for size and appearance and voice that provide alot of hope for people who don't fall into the usual tall, willowy and blonde categories. It is good to see actors and actresses who don't have the usual looks and appearance being given a chance. I bet Tolkien would appreciate that. (Hey, I remember seeing a picture of you. You are gorgeous! I couldn't see you as a dwarf or hobbit, but then, I don't know how talented you are!) People are also hoping that this musical provides a much needed shot in the arm for a city whose arts community still has not recovered from the SARS epidemic scare. Right, the Rolling Stones concert didn't do it. I think that is one reason why the local governments fell behind the Mervishes to support the show there after plans for a London theatre fell through. There should be lots of jobs not only for actors and singers and musicians but all kinds of stage hands. And then the local hotels and restaurants, etc. Sort of like The Shire recovering from the Scouring! Apparently this production has exclusive rights to the show for 18 months in North America and 9 in England. So, while Christopher might cringe and JR might be rolling over in the grave, there might indeed be some very positive things to come out of this musical, maybe not all artistic or canonical, but still things which help an artistic community create a vision. I kind of hope that such a positive potential would not be sneared at by a writer as generous as Tolkien.
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04-24-2005, 09:24 PM | #27 |
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Indeed, Bethberry, very well said. I think a lot of good things will come out of it. I think it's going to be another advancement in stage musicals, just as the films were for Hollywood. I remember when taking a history of musical theatre course that we talked about the shows that changed musical theatre history... I believe, if I am remembering correctly, that those included Showboat, Oklahoma, and Sweeney Todd - I'm sure about the first two, and I think the last one is correct. So, I'm hoping that this musical will just show, again, what wonders can be accomplished on the stage.
I think that Tolkien would appreciate the care and consideration going into this production... I think they are being even more particular with their casting than PJ was... of course, you can't really use special effects to make people look different heights on stage. I think it will come out great because of the care they are giving this show. I can't wait to see who they've cast! Thanks for the compliments Many tell me I resemble Eowyn, so I was hoping for that Alas, my dream did not come true, but it will for someone else I'll have to post a link to a recording of myself once I get it. I recently sang on a demo CD for a local composer's musical, so I'll actuallyhave a recording of myself within a few months. And, no, I didn't see the IMAX showing, because I don't actually live in Toronto, I live about 4 hours away from Toronto. |
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Since he actively collaborated with Donald Swann (and I appreciate setting a few songs is not quite the same as a full blown musical), it is not inconceivable that he might even have approved of a sincere and respectful version - especially if Edith had liked it..... and even Christopher cooperated with the Radio version
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Update or spin?
I found this article on the second stage of the auditions for the Lord of the Rings musical and thought people might be interested in it. I'll copy the entire article here because links to newspaper articles don't have a long shelf life. Tigerlily, would you have been prepared for this?
Source: Michael Posner, "Why I won't be in Lord of the Rings," Globe and Mail, Saturday, May 14, 2005. Section R, "Review: Theatre", p. 2. Quote:
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Now I've had a look at the official site, I'm in two minds about this - two minds separated by a wide gulf. The music sounds interesting, with a Finnish folk group and a composer of Bollywood music involved I'm thinking of some truly bizarre scores. However, the producer worked on the musical of Whistle Down the Wind, and I can't even begin to say what a massacre they made in adapting the original film.
I'd still be likely to go and see it if it opened in London, as my curiosity would get the better of me, and I like to sample bizarre sounding entertainment (which is why I saw Jerry Springer the Opera, which was splendid). But if it's going to be bad then at least we'd get advance warning when they release songs from the soundtrack. The proof will be in the pudding as they say... I remain nervous about this, just as I was about the films.
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05-14-2005, 08:19 PM | #31 |
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Wow, a LOTR boot camp. Could I have held up for that at the time I auditioned... probably not... but I have since then started a vigorous diet/exercise program that is kicking my butt into shape. So, slowly but surely, I'm building up endurance and strength. I started this program because I know, as an actor, that I need to be more physically fit and have more agility... and a nicer body wouldn't be too bad either.
Well, at least I know now if I audition again for this what is coming. Thanks for posting that, it was quite interesting. I can't wait to see this show with it's cast of acting superheroes. |
05-14-2005, 08:39 PM | #32 |
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able to leap short hobbits in a single bound
I wonder if there will be an official LotR dentist, just in case stunt accidents have an uncanny way of reoccuring?
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Brent Carver to play Gandalf announced July 26, 2005
So as much as I cringe at the idea of this musical, at least they've cast a truly great, Tony Award-winning actor to play Gandalf.
I don't intend to see it - unless the rest of the cast is equally superb, but if you want to, you can buy tickets at mirvish.com.
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11-17-2005, 07:23 AM | #34 |
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Three songs from the stage production of The Lord of the Rings were performed recently at the World Travel Market in London. It's a bit of global theatre marketing, but here's a review which gives a bit of info about some of the production:
Selling a Ticket to Middle-earth As a teaser, we are told that the Black Riders arrive by charging through the audience (on stilts) to reach the Shire on stage. Apparently there are CDs with samples of the music from the show. The score has been composed by the Finnish group Varttina and A.H. Rahman and arranged by Christopher Nightingale. And the marketing wizards are no longer calling this a musical but "a stage adaptation" using music, drama and lavish spectacle. |
11-17-2005, 11:33 AM | #35 |
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I have been giving a lot of thought to making the trek up to Toronto to see this production, experiencing the same sort of curiosity that led me to the theater for FotR, a strange mixture of hope and dread. This is a bit different though.
It was just pure dread that governed until lately, for I can not imagine what a 'stage adaptation' would be like, and my initial reaction was, you've got to be joking. Perhaps they were just cashing in on the popularity of the movies. But last month, after a bit of exploration, and listening to samples of Varttina's music, a glimmer of hope is there. I think that they may have made an excellent choice, though Lalwendë, what you have said about producer concerns me. At present I am planning to attend at some point next year, expecting the worst, of course, as I did with the movie. Hopefully, I will be similarly surprised by the effort. In any case, should I happen to see it before anyone gives their impression of it here, I will definitely let you know my thoughts. |
11-17-2005, 05:15 PM | #36 |
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If anyone is interested... The Gathering of the Fellowship (www.gatheringofthefellowship.org) is having a convention next July, and one of their ticket packages includes a ticket to the musical. That's how I'm going to see it.
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11-18-2005, 11:37 AM | #37 |
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Now there is a good idea! Interesting guest list too.
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11-29-2005, 05:37 PM | #38 |
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http://82.112.100.50/hosting/lotr/dv...ndex-flash.htm
This was just put up on the official website. It's little video about the behind the scenes and I admit, the costumes look fantastic and I'm sure the sets will be as well, considering they're designed by the same person. I'm not too sure about the music in the background though. It sounds a little bit too Lion King for my liking. |
12-04-2005, 11:51 AM | #39 |
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That trailer looks great. I think this will be a very good production of LoTR. Plus anything put into music well is great.
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I've spent some time (NOT working on my papers, like I ought to be) exploring the official website and it looks to be interesting, to say the least! My standards are different for theater than for movies, however. There won't be time to make frivolous additions, just major cuts. But, in a staged performance, just the main plot and the spirit of the book are necessary, which is what I'll be looking for. In that aspect, I have a lot of hope for this musical! If only I could feasibly get to Toronto...
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