The Mirror of Galadriel - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Ithaeliel · 02-27-2003, 05:05 PM

I was skimming through UT last night and came across the chapter on the Palantíri. A thought struck me: the Mirror of Galadriel is much like the seeing stones. It can show the onlooker visions of past, present and future, but these visions are not to be controlled by the will of a person. Both appear as ordinary objects, yet they are more than they seem.

Where did the Mirror of Galadriel come from? What do you think drives its visions- the water, the wood, Galadriel herself? I'd really like to hear your opinion on the matter.

[ February 27, 2003: Message edited by: Ithaeliel ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-27-2003, 06:24 PM

It is the Mirror of Galadriel, so it is intrinsically connected with her. I would hazard a guess therefore that it acts as a focus for her psychic powers - what's the word ... osanwe?

Ithaeliel · 02-27-2003, 10:38 PM

Well, it may be the Mirror of Galadriel, but I've always believed it was only called so due to ownership, not because she controlled what people saw in the water (which she does not). I have no doubt it is intrinsically connected to her, but she doesn't tell the mirror what to show, if you follow me. Galadriel herself stated that she could not tell what Frodo was to see when he visited the mirror.
My point is, it may be something to do with the viewer's mind; what thoughts concern him or her most greatly. That's my opinion.

**The Saucepan Man** · 02-27-2003, 10:48 PM

Yes, I agree that she had no control over what was revealed to the viewer. I was thinking of it more as a channel for her power to allow the viewer to see images relevant to them ...

... otherwise would anyone be able to use it, wouldn't they?

Olorin · 03-01-2003, 11:59 AM

I always thought it was her ring that allowed her to do it.

Arwen Imladris · 03-01-2003, 08:05 PM

Another thread on Galadriel's mirror.

Guys, doing the search is not really that hard!

Sorry, I'm reeealy tired right now, not in the mode for duplicate threads.

Ithaeliel · 03-02-2003, 11:06 AM

Sorry about that; I did a search, but found nothing (dangit, I swore I'd never produce a duplicate thread!)

Arwen Imladris · 03-02-2003, 04:00 PM

I don't really mind, only when I started the thread do I usually say anything. And I was tired last night! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

thesandman762 · 03-02-2003, 09:36 PM

Galadriel's Mirror is most likely a combination of everything said. Galadriel, her ring, the object itself, and THE USER. I storngly disagree that the user has nothing to do with what is seen, because then y did Sam see something different.

Ithaeliel · 03-02-2003, 10:37 PM

I didn't say the user had nothing to do with what was being seen. Rather, I meant to say the viewer was probably the largest catalyst for the visions that occurred in the mirror, due to the fact that everyone saw something different, and most of the time it was their biggest mental issue of the moment. Sorry for the confusion, and welcome to the downs, Sandman!

02-27-2003, 05:05 PM	#1
Ithaeliel Cornus Caliga Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Five-hundred-twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes from here Posts: 710	The Mirror of Galadriel I was skimming through UT last night and came across the chapter on the Palantíri. A thought struck me: the Mirror of Galadriel is much like the seeing stones. It can show the onlooker visions of past, present and future, but these visions are not to be controlled by the will of a person. Both appear as ordinary objects, yet they are more than they seem. Where did the Mirror of Galadriel come from? What do you think drives its visions- the water, the wood, Galadriel herself? I'd really like to hear your opinion on the matter. [ February 27, 2003: Message edited by: Ithaeliel ] __________________ That best portion of a good man's life, His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. .................William Wordsworth

02-27-2003, 06:24 PM	#2
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	It is the Mirror of Galadriel, so it is intrinsically connected with her. I would hazard a guess therefore that it acts as a focus for her psychic powers - what's the word ... osanwe? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

02-27-2003, 10:38 PM	#3
Ithaeliel Cornus Caliga Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Five-hundred-twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes from here Posts: 710	Well, it may be the Mirror of Galadriel, but I've always believed it was only called so due to ownership, not because she controlled what people saw in the water (which she does not). I have no doubt it is intrinsically connected to her, but she doesn't tell the mirror what to show, if you follow me. Galadriel herself stated that she could not tell what Frodo was to see when he visited the mirror. My point is, it may be something to do with the viewer's mind; what thoughts concern him or her most greatly. That's my opinion. __________________ That best portion of a good man's life, His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. .................William Wordsworth

02-27-2003, 10:48 PM	#4
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Yes, I agree that she had no control over what was revealed to the viewer. I was thinking of it more as a channel for her power to allow the viewer to see images relevant to them ... ... otherwise would anyone be able to use it, wouldn't they? __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-01-2003, 11:59 AM	#5
Olorin Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Where the sun sails and the moon walks. Posts: 155	I always thought it was her ring that allowed her to do it. __________________ Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then don't be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

03-01-2003, 08:05 PM	#6
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Another thread on Galadriel's mirror. Guys, doing the search is not really that hard! Sorry, I'm reeealy tired right now, not in the mode for duplicate threads. __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

03-02-2003, 11:06 AM	#7
Ithaeliel Cornus Caliga Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Five-hundred-twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes from here Posts: 710	Sorry about that; I did a search, but found nothing (dangit, I swore I'd never produce a duplicate thread!) __________________ That best portion of a good man's life, His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. .................William Wordsworth

03-02-2003, 04:00 PM	#8
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	I don't really mind, only when I started the thread do I usually say anything. And I was tired last night! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

03-02-2003, 09:36 PM	#9
thesandman762 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 11	Galadriel's Mirror is most likely a combination of everything said. Galadriel, her ring, the object itself, and THE USER. I storngly disagree that the user has nothing to do with what is seen, because then y did Sam see something different. __________________ SAURON HAS CORRUPTED MY WILL....... BEWARE THE EYE!

03-02-2003, 10:37 PM	#10
Ithaeliel Cornus Caliga Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Five-hundred-twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes from here Posts: 710	I didn't say the user had nothing to do with what was being seen. Rather, I meant to say the viewer was probably the largest catalyst for the visions that occurred in the mirror, due to the fact that everyone saw something different, and most of the time it was their biggest mental issue of the moment. Sorry for the confusion, and welcome to the downs, Sandman! __________________ That best portion of a good man's life, His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. .................William Wordsworth