From Moria with Love - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Manwe Sulimo · 08-13-2002, 09:25 AM

Okay, here's my beef. After the Fellowship leaves Moria, Aragorn is concerned that they will fall prey to Orcs from Moria after nightfall. But, the Bridge was destroyed! How could the Orcs get out to Dimrill Dale, or how can Aragorn be so stupid?

Morgoth Bauglir · 08-13-2002, 09:31 AM

dont u remember that those orcs and trolls carried big slabs of rock and cast it across the fiery chasm and crossed it?

well im sure that they could do the same with the bridge.

Raefindel · 08-13-2002, 10:06 AM

...and persued them through Lothlorien...

Scenes were cut form the movie where they fought a battle with the orcs after leaving Moria.

Manwe Sulimo · 08-13-2002, 11:09 AM

Oh yeah....I just watched the DVD like 10 times in a row, so I'd forgotten about that. Thanks, guys/gals.

Tarthang · 08-13-2002, 11:38 AM

And who's to say those same orcs hadn't made any other entrances to and from Moria, or that the Dwarves hadn't made any secret entrances, as well?

Durialion · 08-13-2002, 12:32 PM

Well if you remeber the orcs were climbing those pillars so they could just climb over somehow.

Manwe Sulimo · 08-13-2002, 01:30 PM

Ahhggg! You horrible, horrible person. This is the books forum! Don't use that "Orcs are all Spider-man" mumbo-jumbo on us!

Morgoth Bauglir · 08-13-2002, 02:06 PM

LOL manwe

Shadow of Udûn · 08-13-2002, 04:52 PM

There would have been a lot of orcs living on the east side of Moria. They would have been attracted by the smoke and noise of battle to come and investigate.

Galorme · 08-13-2002, 04:59 PM

Spider Orc, Spider Orc
They cook habbits for their pork
Carry blades, any size
Have scary, evil eyes

Look out! Here comes the Spider Orc
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Eol · 08-13-2002, 05:32 PM

That was simply sublime.

yes, there are MANY things that were cut out of the movie or misinterptated. So it is not a good source of information, stick to the books if you wish to understand something plot related from a literary standpoint.

Orcs followed the Fellowship even across the river, by Lothlorien. Gollem attempts to sniff the hobbits out when they were hiding up in the trees while the elves were about trying to guard the forest from the Orcs.

Legolas · 08-13-2002, 10:03 PM

Additionally, the orcs probably had ways out of the mines that were not safe or even known to Gandalf or Strider. There were plenty of goblins in the Misty Mountains that could've followed the Fellowship. Remember those in The Hobbit and their hidden gates?

08-13-2002, 09:25 AM	#1
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	From Moria with Love Okay, here's my beef. After the Fellowship leaves Moria, Aragorn is concerned that they will fall prey to Orcs from Moria after nightfall. But, the Bridge was destroyed! How could the Orcs get out to Dimrill Dale, or how can Aragorn be so stupid? __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

08-13-2002, 10:06 AM	#3
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	...and persued them through Lothlorien... Scenes were cut form the movie where they fought a battle with the orcs after leaving Moria. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

08-13-2002, 11:09 AM	#4
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	Oh yeah....I just watched the DVD like 10 times in a row, so I'd forgotten about that. Thanks, guys/gals. __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

08-13-2002, 12:32 PM	#6
Durialion Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 42	Well if you remeber the orcs were climbing those pillars so they could just climb over somehow. __________________ Durialion the High Elf "I wish the ring had never come to me and this adventure had never happened." Frodo "So do all who live to see these times, but you have to decide what to do when the time comes." Gandalf

08-13-2002, 01:30 PM	#7
Manwe Sulimo Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Taurelilómëa-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurëa Lómëanor Posts: 553	Ahhggg! You horrible, horrible person. This is the books forum! Don't use that "Orcs are all Spider-man" mumbo-jumbo on us! __________________ "Monkeys learn sign language so they can tell the dolphins they love them."

08-13-2002, 09:31 AM	#2
Morgoth Bauglir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 252	dont u remember that those orcs and trolls carried big slabs of rock and cast it across the fiery chasm and crossed it? well im sure that they could do the same with the bridge.

08-13-2002, 11:38 AM	#5
Tarthang Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Paths of the Dead Posts: 108	And who's to say those same orcs hadn't made any other entrances to and from Moria, or that the Dwarves hadn't made any secret entrances, as well?

08-13-2002, 02:06 PM	#8
Morgoth Bauglir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 252	LOL manwe

08-13-2002, 04:52 PM	#9
Shadow of Udûn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 32	There would have been a lot of orcs living on the east side of Moria. They would have been attracted by the smoke and noise of battle to come and investigate. __________________ What it was could not be seen: it was like a great shadow...

08-13-2002, 04:59 PM	#10
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	Spider Orc, Spider Orc They cook habbits for their pork Carry blades, any size Have scary, evil eyes Look out! Here comes the Spider Orc [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!

08-13-2002, 05:32 PM	#11
Eol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Pacific Northwest - Tir Nan Og Posts: 306	That was simply sublime. yes, there are MANY things that were cut out of the movie or misinterptated. So it is not a good source of information, stick to the books if you wish to understand something plot related from a literary standpoint. Orcs followed the Fellowship even across the river, by Lothlorien. Gollem attempts to sniff the hobbits out when they were hiding up in the trees while the elves were about trying to guard the forest from the Orcs. __________________ Mes sana in corpec sano- (lt.) A sound mind in a sound body

08-13-2002, 10:03 PM	#12
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Additionally, the orcs probably had ways out of the mines that were not safe or even known to Gandalf or Strider. There were plenty of goblins in the Misty Mountains that could've followed the Fellowship. Remember those in The Hobbit and their hidden gates? __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.