"Battle of the Peak"??? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Silver Dragon · 07-26-2004, 12:36 PM

The other day I met someone who said that the battle between Gandalf and the Balrog had been named "The Battle of the Peak". They had no clue if it was right or not. I skimmed a couple of sections and couldn't find anything about it. I was wondering if someone could help me out here.

Son of Númenor · 07-26-2004, 12:42 PM

In The Two Towers, "The White Rider", Gandalf says:

"There was none to see, or perhaps in after ages songs would still be song of the Battle of the Peak."

As far as I know, that is the only time the title is used.

Mithalwen · 07-26-2004, 01:28 PM

Only other possibility Glorfindel's battle with a different balrog on a different peak?

Silver Dragon · 07-26-2004, 01:48 PM

I think they must have taken it from the quote Son of Numenor used. Thank you. But was it actually named that, or did Gandalf just use it on the spot?

Son of Númenor · 07-26-2004, 04:49 PM

There was no official name for the battle, and if there were, it would have been created after Gandalf said the above quote, probably after the War of the Ring, for the lore-books.

Boromir88 · 07-26-2004, 06:23 PM

Tolkien also rights in a lot of point of view, just because someone says something doesn't mean that person is right or wrong. Gandalf just calling it the "battle of the peak" might have just been him, doesn't mean everyone named it "the battle of the peak." But, it is very possible it was written in lore books and called "the battle of the peak" either way thats what it's referred to as I assume.

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 07-27-2004, 02:14 PM

At least Frodo might have used the name "the Battle of the Peak" in his book when referring Gandalf fighting the balrog. But this is what the Encyclopedia of Arda says about The Battle of the Peak:

Quote:

(It is) Gandalf's name for his climactic battle with the Balrog known as Durin's Bane, on the peak of the mountain called Celebdil, the Silvertine.

Note: Gandalf's name. So they seem to think that it might have other names as well.

07-26-2004, 12:36 PM	#1
Silver Dragon Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Arg-eth Posts: 35	"Battle of the Peak"??? The other day I met someone who said that the battle between Gandalf and the Balrog had been named "The Battle of the Peak". They had no clue if it was right or not. I skimmed a couple of sections and couldn't find anything about it. I was wondering if someone could help me out here. __________________ "One is one and all alone and evermore shall be it so."

07-26-2004, 01:28 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Only other possibility Glorfindel's battle with a different balrog on a different peak? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-26-2004, 01:48 PM	#4
Silver Dragon Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Arg-eth Posts: 35	Thank You I think they must have taken it from the quote Son of Numenor used. Thank you. But was it actually named that, or did Gandalf just use it on the spot? __________________ "One is one and all alone and evermore shall be it so."

07-26-2004, 06:23 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	Point of View Tolkien also rights in a lot of point of view, just because someone says something doesn't mean that person is right or wrong. Gandalf just calling it the "battle of the peak" might have just been him, doesn't mean everyone named it "the battle of the peak." But, it is very possible it was written in lore books and called "the battle of the peak" either way thats what it's referred to as I assume.

07-26-2004, 12:42 PM	#2
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	In The Two Towers, "The White Rider", Gandalf says: "There was none to see, or perhaps in after ages songs would still be song of the Battle of the Peak." As far as I know, that is the only time the title is used.

07-26-2004, 04:49 PM	#5
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	There was no official name for the battle, and if there were, it would have been created after Gandalf said the above quote, probably after the War of the Ring, for the lore-books.