Before they were Nazgul - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Phrim · 07-08-2004, 12:12 PM

I'm interested in finding out information about the "Kings of Men" who were corrupted into Wraiths by Sauron's gift of rings... before they were corrupted. I know that 3 of them were supposedly Numenoreans, and Khamul was an Easterling, but I don't know anything about them beyond that. What race were they, and where did they rule? Under what circumstances were the Rings given? Was Sauron buddy-buddy with these rulers? What happened to these kingdoms in the period between the gifting of the Rings and the ultimate corruption of their bearers?

Can someone at least point me where to look?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 07-08-2004, 12:36 PM

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever have detailed information about the Men. JRRT didn't write much about them.

Kuruharan · 07-08-2004, 12:36 PM

As far as I know, I'm afraid that there is not much more to go on than what you have already found.

Estelyn Telcontar · 07-08-2004, 12:54 PM

Phrim, the same question was asked on this thread on the Novices and Newcomers forum. It in turn links to this thread, which is a previous discussion on the topic here on the Books forum. Since the information we have on this topic is too sparse to warrant a second discussion, I'm closing this thread. Those who wish can continue on the second thread. Thanks!

07-08-2004, 12:12 PM	#1
Phrim Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 72	Before they were Nazgul I'm interested in finding out information about the "Kings of Men" who were corrupted into Wraiths by Sauron's gift of rings... before they were corrupted. I know that 3 of them were supposedly Numenoreans, and Khamul was an Easterling, but I don't know anything about them beyond that. What race were they, and where did they rule? Under what circumstances were the Rings given? Was Sauron buddy-buddy with these rulers? What happened to these kingdoms in the period between the gifting of the Rings and the ultimate corruption of their bearers? Can someone at least point me where to look?

07-08-2004, 12:36 PM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever have detailed information about the Men. JRRT didn't write much about them. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

07-08-2004, 12:36 PM	#3
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	As far as I know, I'm afraid that there is not much more to go on than what you have already found. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

07-08-2004, 12:54 PM	#4
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Phrim, the same question was asked on this thread on the Novices and Newcomers forum. It in turn links to this thread, which is a previous discussion on the topic here on the Books forum. Since the information we have on this topic is too sparse to warrant a second discussion, I'm closing this thread. Those who wish can continue on the second thread. Thanks! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'