What if the Dark Lord had children?? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

rutslegolas · 05-28-2004, 11:21 PM

I mean if the Dark Lord had children they would be really powerful and the story of LOTR would never end ????

Because even if the Ring was destroyed his children would not be affected.

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Eomer of the Rohirrim · 05-29-2004, 07:04 AM

Not all women are attracted to power. Perhaps you, rutslegolas , would like to try and find Sauron a date?

I'm not sure it was possible for Sauron to have kids anyway. That's just something I remember from another thread, its not that I have deep knowledge of the subject. Can anyone else shed some light on this matter?

Son of Númenor · 05-29-2004, 09:39 AM

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Evil is fissiparous. But itself barren. Melkor could not 'beget', or have any spouse (though he attempted to ravish Arien, this was to destroy and 'distain' her, not to beget fiery offspring). (Morgoth's Ring - Myths Transformed)

The same holds true for Sauron.

Eomer, to answer your question: Sauron, if he weren't evil, could not have begotten offspring with another Maia, but he could have, presumably, with one of the Eruhini (as Melian did with Thingol). Since he was 'evil', he could not have reproduced at all in any biological sense.

Isowen · 08-05-2004, 12:49 PM

I'm not sure if he could have kids?!? but if he did, don't you think he would be evil and cruel to them, as he is a dark lord? just a thought that crossed my mind!
If he did, then the peoples of ME would have a lot more work to do, if there were more dark lords to defeat.
The whole story would probably change. Because, when Isildur destroyed Sauron, he wouldn't have to come back because he would have kids to carry on his evil- doing! I guess that means he wouldn't need the ring, so Frodo wouldn't have to destroy it. That's kind of confusing but, it's just what I thought.

Tuor of Gondolin · 08-05-2004, 03:48 PM

Sauron when he sees his first child:

"I shall call him----------- Mini-me!"

Elven Hunter · 08-07-2004, 08:02 AM

Nice one Tuor!

Saruman would be their baby sitter and I think they will resemble their father's eyes.. oh I mean eye.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-07-2004, 09:02 AM

This could make an entertaining Mirth topic.

Tuor of Gondolin · 08-07-2004, 09:23 AM

Especially getting Sauron a date. Possibly Queen Beruthiel, but only if he's a cat person. She'd certainly be ticked off with Gondorians.

Boromir88 · 08-07-2004, 12:09 PM

I wonder if...
Shelob would go for Sauron?

Morsul the Dark · 08-07-2004, 12:39 PM

A giant Eye with eight legs? now thats scary

But if Sauron had children Theyd most likely be captains of his armies

Lady of the Pants · 08-07-2004, 12:55 PM

It says that evil can't have offspring. But my mom had me soooo... just kidding!

If Sauron had kids before Isildur destroyed him, they would be normally evil. I don't think he could have kids when he came back as the Great Eye because...um...he's just an eye. HehHehHeh!

HerenIstarion · 08-07-2004, 01:14 PM

but I can not stand the temptation to give it...

So, if Dark Lord were to have chilren, they would have been Dark Lordlings (of course, with the equal opportunity of becoming Lord Darklings, yer honour...

Lady of the Pants · 08-08-2004, 10:18 AM

I wonder... if the Dark Lord was destroyed and came back as the Great Eye, would his children come back as the Little Eyes if they were destroyed? The Little Eyes sounds like childrens spy orginization. But really, think about it. Could they come back? Hmmmmm...

P.S. This is my 10th post. Hip, Hip, Hooray!

05-28-2004, 11:21 PM	#1
rutslegolas Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In Elven Lands of India Posts: 533	What if the Dark Lord had children?? I mean if the Dark Lord had children they would be really powerful and the story of LOTR would never end ???? Because even if the Ring was destroyed his children would not be affected. ?? __________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with the bull - The Phantom.

05-29-2004, 07:04 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Not all women are attracted to power. Perhaps you, rutslegolas , would like to try and find Sauron a date? I'm not sure it was possible for Sauron to have kids anyway. That's just something I remember from another thread, its not that I have deep knowledge of the subject. Can anyone else shed some light on this matter? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-05-2004, 12:49 PM	#4
Isowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The blackened depths Posts: 86	I'm not sure if he could have kids?!? but if he did, don't you think he would be evil and cruel to them, as he is a dark lord? just a thought that crossed my mind! If he did, then the peoples of ME would have a lot more work to do, if there were more dark lords to defeat. The whole story would probably change. Because, when Isildur destroyed Sauron, he wouldn't have to come back because he would have kids to carry on his evil- doing! I guess that means he wouldn't need the ring, so Frodo wouldn't have to destroy it. That's kind of confusing but, it's just what I thought. __________________ I hope Butterbur sends this promptly. A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber -room: Thing wanted always burried, If he forgets, I shall roast him.

08-05-2004, 03:48 PM	#5
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Sauron when he sees his first child: "I shall call him----------- Mini-me!" __________________ Aure Entuluva!

08-07-2004, 08:02 AM	#6
Elven Hunter Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28	Nice one Tuor! Saruman would be their baby sitter and I think they will resemble their father's eyes.. oh I mean eye. __________________ Arggg!.. Who lives in a dark mine with dead dwarves inside?! Balrog Flaming Pants!!! Burning like coal and scary is he(?)! Balrog Flaming Pants!!!

08-07-2004, 09:02 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	This could make an entertaining Mirth topic. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-07-2004, 09:23 AM	#8
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	Especially getting Sauron a date. Possibly Queen Beruthiel, but only if he's a cat person. She'd certainly be ticked off with Gondorians. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

08-07-2004, 12:09 PM	#9
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	I wonder... I wonder if... Shelob would go for Sauron?

08-07-2004, 12:39 PM	#10
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	A giant Eye with eight legs? now thats scary But if Sauron had children Theyd most likely be captains of his armies __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

08-07-2004, 12:55 PM	#11
Lady of the Pants Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In front of my computer. Posts: 13	It says that evil can't have offspring. But my mom had me soooo... just kidding! If Sauron had kids before Isildur destroyed him, they would be normally evil. I don't think he could have kids when he came back as the Great Eye because...um...he's just an eye. HehHehHeh! __________________ If at first you don't suceed, maybe failing is your thing

08-07-2004, 01:14 PM	#12
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	the fey mood is upon me...so is the answer but I can not stand the temptation to give it... So, if Dark Lord were to have chilren, they would have been Dark Lordlings (of course, with the equal opportunity of becoming Lord Darklings, yer honour... __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time! Last edited by HerenIstarion; 08-07-2004 at 01:22 PM.

08-08-2004, 10:18 AM	#13
Lady of the Pants Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In front of my computer. Posts: 13	I wonder... if the Dark Lord was destroyed and came back as the Great Eye, would his children come back as the Little Eyes if they were destroyed? The Little Eyes sounds like childrens spy orginization. But really, think about it. Could they come back? Hmmmmm... P.S. This is my 10th post. Hip, Hip, Hooray! __________________ If at first you don't suceed, maybe failing is your thing