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04-21-2004, 08:11 PM | #1 |
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Feanor and Gimli...
Alright, so I've read the Unfinished Tales for the third time, and a Thought came to me.
When Galadriel lived in the Undying Lands, she refused Feanor's (who was an Elf and he cousin) three requests for a strand of her hair, but she gave Gimli (a dwarf ) three strands after a sheepish request on the spur of the moment. Was this foresight on Galadriel's part, because she could see that it would bring only good? And why didn't she give any to Feanor? I might have timelines wrong, but I thought started disliking her rash kinsman after he asked for some of her hair. If some of you have some thoughts on this it would be appreciated. Thanks!
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04-21-2004, 08:33 PM | #2 |
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Saraphim, let me refer you to this thread, which discusses the topic. (personally, I think Galadriel had gotten a bit wiser in the intervening 8000 years, and saw that no harm and possibly a lot of good might come of honoring Gimli's request)
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04-22-2004, 05:57 AM | #3 |
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Well, it could be that Galadriel became more wise, or she could have seen Gimli's humility compared with Feanor's rash pride and lust. She may have been more willing to give her hair to one so humble instead of one so proud.
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04-23-2004, 02:52 AM | #5 |
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Interesting topic.
I'm not too sure it is so much about wisdom. I think the way Gimli asked of it and the circumstances surrounding the both of them made the opportunity unmissable for Galadriel.
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04-24-2004, 06:27 PM | #7 |
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a dwarf!
Well when a DWARF says something is more fair than the jewels of the earth that is a rare thing!
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05-04-2004, 03:57 PM | #10 |
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Gimli and Feanor
I believe it's quite clear Galadriel didn't give Feanor her hair because Feanor wasn't lets say as "nice" or "pleasant" as Gimli. Galadriel saw that Feanor didn't want her hair like Gimli did. Gimli wanted it so he could cherish it and think of the lady. I don't know much about Feanor except he was full of pride and arrogance.
Someone earlier said it was to honor Gimli, I agree, Gimli was an honorable person to have in the fellowship. He was a good companion and even Aragorn was impressed of his skills with the axe. As I said earlier I believe Galadriel saw the compassion in Gimli and it was a gift he wanted to cherish and not want for a prize, as I believe Feanor did. |
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Bear in mind what Galadriel said when Gimli asked her:
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But seriously, I think it was much more than that. The significance of the request was certainly not lost on those present: Quote:
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05-04-2004, 09:45 PM | #12 |
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I agree, Lalaith. By giving Gimli the three strands of her hair, she took the first step in the reconciliation of Elves and Dwarves. And none could have done it better, since both Gimli and Galadriel are respected and well-known in their races. Also, it was said that Galadriel had an intense hatred for Fëanor even before he asked for some of her hair.
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