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Pervinca Took · 09-14-2017, 05:25 AM

So - I tried Ragnir, and he was blind and closer to Turin's family.

RAN + RIG for set-up?

Galadriel55 · 09-14-2017, 05:32 AM

Perfect. Over to you.

Pervinca Took · 09-15-2017, 05:55 AM

I had Rannveig or something running through my mind, but I think that might be from a Norse saga I read a long time ago. Another great themed password, Galadriel!

1. See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
2. The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
4. Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.

Nerwen · 09-15-2017, 08:08 AM

Is #4 VÁNA? Or rather ANÁV, since it's reflected? ("Nave" - E + A).

Pervinca Took · 09-15-2017, 08:48 AM

1. See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
2. The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.

Galadriel55 · 09-15-2017, 09:06 AM

2. Aule: Le+Au

Pervinca Took · 09-15-2017, 09:09 AM

1. See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.

Galadriel55 · 09-15-2017, 10:24 AM

1. Vaire: raven - N + I

Pervinca Took · 09-15-2017, 10:51 AM

VAIRE: See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-18-2017, 12:12 PM

3 is Lórien, and I think the password is Valar, so 5 must be rokleM

Pervinca Took · 09-19-2017, 06:05 AM

VAIRE: See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends.
AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist.
LORIEN: Spin a bay window and add direction for him.
ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her.
ROKLEM: See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him.

Indeed. Over to you.

Oriel + N.
Le + Mork.

Galadriel55 · 09-19-2017, 08:48 AM

Would you mind explaining Lorien and Melkor please?

Pervinca Took · 09-19-2017, 09:14 AM

See the bottom of my post, where I added it when I put the answers in.

I do think, though, that when *guessing* an answer, we should provide the working out.

Galadriel55 · 09-19-2017, 10:30 AM

Who or what is Mork?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-19-2017, 11:05 AM

He was one of the title characters in the Happy Days spin-off Mork and Mindy, and was played by Robin Williams.

Edit: As promised earlier, here's another word of passing

1: Shot and fled up to the water
2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: Round on father of a terrible promise
6: Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: King's call received by two men
9: Herd root around for fallen leader
10: Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: Questionable country bordering on hostile

Pervinca Took · 09-19-2017, 03:20 PM

11. South Gondor, now a debatable and desert land?

9. Orodreth (anagram).

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-19-2017, 03:27 PM

9 is right and 11 is wrong but close

1: Shot and fled up to the water
2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: Round on father of a terrible promise
6: Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
10: Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: Questionable country bordering on hostile

Pervinca Took · 09-19-2017, 03:46 PM

Harad for 11?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-19-2017, 11:52 PM

It's not Harad. You were close before verbally, not geographically.

Pervinca Took · 09-20-2017, 09:40 AM

5. Not sure about 'round on,' but possibly a reference to FEANOR and his terrible oath? Eight took it, but he was their biological father and its originator.

Galadriel55 · 09-20-2017, 12:40 PM

10. Neithan, because nothing more cryptic comes to mind with this red flag in front of my eyes.

And maybe Arnor for the questionable country?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-20-2017, 02:26 PM

Neithan is right for 10. Fëanor isn't for 5, but you're heading in the right direction. Arnor isn't the questionable country.

I'm leaving for Oxford tomorrow night and probably won't be able to check in here until Sunday, for which I apologise in advance. I'll pop my head round the door before I leave.

1: Shot and fled up to the water
2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: Round on father of a terrible promise
6: Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: Questionable country bordering on hostile

Galadriel55 · 09-20-2017, 03:16 PM

Nargothrond for password?

1. NAROG, as it is water and contains "ran"?

6. Keep thinking about Taur-nu-Fuin, as it contains "un" and is a wood. Don't know about awful threat.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-21-2017, 05:47 AM

Narog is right for 1 (Go and ran backwards), and the password is indeed Nargothrond. 6 is not Taur-nu-Fuin

1: NAROG Shot and fled up to the water
2: A Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: R Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: G Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: O Round on father of a terrible promise
6: T Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: H Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: R King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: D Questionable country bordering on hostile

Galadriel55 · 09-21-2017, 11:16 AM

Glaurung for G? Gold could be Au, line accounts for L, rung for ladder. Only thing is, NAG doesn't add up exactly to the rest of the letters.

Pervinca Took · 09-22-2017, 01:05 AM

D ... Dunland? (un-land?)

Pervinca Took · 09-22-2017, 11:58 PM

OK, Squatter has just confirmed in person that Dunland is wrong.

DAGORLAD? - a plain, so not really a country, and there were certainly hostilities there.

...

(Faramir Jones has made me aware of another Middle-earth substance - *silmari* - wish I'd known in time for my Mithril password!)

Pervinca Took · 09-23-2017, 12:13 AM

I think 3 might be RINGWIL - 'grin' rearranged plus half of 'willow' (although it says 'not half' - so one half of willow but not the other half?)

Galadriel55 · 09-23-2017, 10:09 AM

2. Arminas, bringing wise counsel to shut the doors, hiding in the words of the clue.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-24-2017, 12:34 PM

Glaurung is right, but the structure is GG (nag) around l au run (ladder)
Arminas and Ringwil are both right too, but Dagorlad is not.

1: NAROG Shot and fled up to the water
2: ARMINAS Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: RINGWIL Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: GLAURUNG Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: O Round on father of a terrible promise
6: T Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: H Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: R King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: D Questionable country bordering on hostile

Galadriel55 · 09-24-2017, 05:45 PM

My initial thoughts were that this clue is related to the Ring of Barahir, a "round" on Finrod who made the fateful promise to help Barahir's house. Pursuing that line of thought, I couldn't think of anyone related to that story who would start with O. Not sure if there were other named round items belonging to Feanor or Finwe, who could be the father.

If you take Round to mean the initial O, the rest doesn't shape itself too nicely either.

Unless it's just OATH OF FEANOR?

Pervinca Took · 09-25-2017, 09:17 AM

I wonder if 8 might be RED ARROW.

Pervinca Took · 09-25-2017, 09:28 AM

6. TAUR-EN-FAROTH.

Awful= anagram indicator.

So, switch around THREAT, FOR A and UN.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-25-2017, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca

I wonder if 8 might be RED ARROW.

Wonder no longer! It isn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel

My initial thoughts were that this clue is related to the Ring of Barahir, a "round" on Finrod who made the fateful promise to help Barahir's house. Pursuing that line of thought, I couldn't think of anyone related to that story who would start with O. Not sure if there were other named round items belonging to Feanor or Finwe, who could be the father.

You're barking up the wrong tree there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel

Unless it's just OATH OF FEANOR?

That's the right tree. Round (O), then an anagram of 'on father of a'.

Pervinca is right about 6 on all counts, so we have:

1: NAROG Shot and fled up to the water
2: ARMINAS Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing
3: RINGWIL Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half!
4: GLAURUNG Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one
5: OATH OF FËANOR Round on father of a terrible promise
6: TAUR EN FAROTH Wood's awful threat for a French one
7: H Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot.
8: R King's call received by two men
9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader
10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss
11: D Questionable country bordering on hostile

Pervinca Took · 09-25-2017, 02:31 PM

11. Dor-Lomin a questionable country because it was part of Hithlum? Later taken by Morgoth; destroyed in the War of Wrath.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-26-2017, 03:32 AM

Not Dor-Lómin either, I'm afraid. You're overthinking this one.

Pervinca Took · 09-26-2017, 05:58 AM

Dimbar.

If South Gondor was debatable and desert, Dimbar was sandy and a 'sad-land.'

Pervinca Took · 09-26-2017, 09:03 AM

8. ROMENDACIL?

Declaim + Ron is only one man plus call, but two men/kings were called Romendacil.

OR

Claim + Ron + Ed.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-26-2017, 12:00 PM

Neither Dimbar nor Rómendacil is right.

Pervinca Took · 09-26-2017, 01:36 PM

Dol Guldur, then.

09-14-2017, 05:25 AM	#3001
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	So - I tried Ragnir, and he was blind and closer to Turin's family. RAN + RIG for set-up? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-14-2017, 05:32 AM	#3002
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	Perfect. Over to you. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-15-2017, 05:55 AM	#3003
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Here you go ... I had Rannveig or something running through my mind, but I think that might be from a Norse saga I read a long time ago. Another great themed password, Galadriel! 1. See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends. 2. The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist. 3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him. 4. Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her. 5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 09-15-2017 at 06:13 AM.

09-15-2017, 08:08 AM	#3004
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Is #4 VÁNA? Or rather ANÁV, since it's reflected? ("Nave" - E + A). __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

09-15-2017, 08:48 AM	#3005
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Yes! 1. See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends. 2. The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist. 3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him. ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her. 5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-15-2017, 09:06 AM	#3006
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	2. Aule: Le+Au __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-15-2017, 09:09 AM	#3007
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Indeed. 1. See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends. AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist. 3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him. ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her. 5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-15-2017, 10:24 AM	#3008
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	1. Vaire: raven - N + I __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-15-2017, 10:51 AM	#3009
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Yes VAIRE: See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends. AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist. 3. Spin a bay window and add direction for him. ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her. 5. See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-18-2017, 12:12 PM	#3010
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	3 is Lórien, and I think the password is Valar, so 5 must be rokleM __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-19-2017, 06:05 AM	#3011
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	VAIRE: See her as the hue of Edith’s hair meets first person, loses direction, and blends. AULE: The French add gold; spin for a metallurgist. LORIEN: Spin a bay window and add direction for him. ANAV: Part of church changes note, spins, reflects her. ROKLEM: See the French Orkling mingled, reflecting him. Indeed. Over to you. Oriel + N. Le + Mork. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 09-19-2017 at 06:22 AM.

09-19-2017, 08:48 AM	#3012
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	Would you mind explaining Lorien and Melkor please? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-19-2017, 09:14 AM	#3013
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	See the bottom of my post, where I added it when I put the answers in. I do think, though, that when guessing an answer, we should provide the working out. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-19-2017, 10:30 AM	#3014
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	Who or what is Mork? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-19-2017, 11:05 AM	#3015
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	He was one of the title characters in the Happy Days spin-off Mork and Mindy, and was played by Robin Williams. Edit: As promised earlier, here's another word of passing 1: Shot and fled up to the water 2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing 3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half! 4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one 5: Round on father of a terrible promise 6: Wood's awful threat for a French one 7: Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot. 8: King's call received by two men 9: Herd root around for fallen leader 10: Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss 11: Questionable country bordering on hostile __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 09-19-2017 at 01:09 PM.

09-19-2017, 03:20 PM	#3016
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	11. South Gondor, now a debatable and desert land? 9. Orodreth (anagram). __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-19-2017, 03:27 PM	#3017
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	9 is right and 11 is wrong but close 1: Shot and fled up to the water 2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing 3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half! 4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one 5: Round on father of a terrible promise 6: Wood's awful threat for a French one 7: Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot. 8: King's call received by two men 9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader 10: Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss 11: Questionable country bordering on hostile __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-19-2017, 03:46 PM	#3018
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Harad for 11? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 09-19-2017 at 11:25 PM.

09-19-2017, 11:52 PM	#3019
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	It's not Harad. You were close before verbally, not geographically. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-20-2017, 09:40 AM	#3020
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	5. Not sure about 'round on,' but possibly a reference to FEANOR and his terrible oath? Eight took it, but he was their biological father and its originator. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-20-2017, 12:40 PM	#3021
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	10. Neithan, because nothing more cryptic comes to mind with this red flag in front of my eyes. And maybe Arnor for the questionable country? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 09-20-2017 at 12:44 PM.

09-20-2017, 02:26 PM	#3022
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Neithan is right for 10. Fëanor isn't for 5, but you're heading in the right direction. Arnor isn't the questionable country. I'm leaving for Oxford tomorrow night and probably won't be able to check in here until Sunday, for which I apologise in advance. I'll pop my head round the door before I leave. 1: Shot and fled up to the water 2: Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing 3: Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half! 4: Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one 5: Round on father of a terrible promise 6: Wood's awful threat for a French one 7: Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot. 8: King's call received by two men 9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader 10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss 11: Questionable country bordering on hostile __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-20-2017, 03:16 PM	#3023
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	Nargothrond for password? 1. NAROG, as it is water and contains "ran"? 6. Keep thinking about Taur-nu-Fuin, as it contains "un" and is a wood. Don't know about awful threat. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-21-2017, 05:47 AM	#3024
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Narog is right for 1 (Go and ran backwards), and the password is indeed Nargothrond. 6 is not Taur-nu-Fuin 1: NAROG Shot and fled up to the water 2: A Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing 3: R Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half! 4: G Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one 5: O Round on father of a terrible promise 6: T Wood's awful threat for a French one 7: H Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot. 8: R King's call received by two men 9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader 10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss 11: D Questionable country bordering on hostile __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne? Last edited by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh; 09-21-2017 at 05:50 AM.

09-21-2017, 11:16 AM	#3025
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	Glaurung for G? Gold could be Au, line accounts for L, rung for ladder. Only thing is, NAG doesn't add up exactly to the rest of the letters. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-22-2017, 01:05 AM	#3026
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	D ... Dunland? (un-land?) __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-22-2017, 11:58 PM	#3027
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	OK, Squatter has just confirmed in person that Dunland is wrong. DAGORLAD? - a plain, so not really a country, and there were certainly hostilities there. ... (Faramir Jones has made me aware of another Middle-earth substance - silmari - wish I'd known in time for my Mithril password!) __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-23-2017, 12:13 AM	#3028
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I think 3 might be RINGWIL - 'grin' rearranged plus half of 'willow' (although it says 'not half' - so one half of willow but not the other half?) __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-23-2017, 10:09 AM	#3029
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	2. Arminas, bringing wise counsel to shut the doors, hiding in the words of the clue. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-24-2017, 12:34 PM	#3030
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Glaurung is right, but the structure is GG (nag) around l au run (ladder) Arminas and Ringwil are both right too, but Dagorlad is not. 1: NAROG Shot and fled up to the water 2: ARMINAS Farm in a southern land hides one worth hearing 3: RINGWIL Flower's deranged smirk on tree? Not half! 4: GLAURUNG Nag swallows line on golden ladder: it's a hot one 5: O Round on father of a terrible promise 6: T Wood's awful threat for a French one 7: H Driver of Smiley's people that girl forgot. 8: R King's call received by two men 9: ORODRETH Herd root around for fallen leader 10: NEITHAN Wronged outlaw replaced bad boss 11: D Questionable country bordering on hostile __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-24-2017, 05:45 PM	#3031
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,412	Thoughts on number 5 My initial thoughts were that this clue is related to the Ring of Barahir, a "round" on Finrod who made the fateful promise to help Barahir's house. Pursuing that line of thought, I couldn't think of anyone related to that story who would start with O. Not sure if there were other named round items belonging to Feanor or Finwe, who could be the father. If you take Round to mean the initial O, the rest doesn't shape itself too nicely either. Unless it's just OATH OF FEANOR? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-25-2017, 09:17 AM	#3032
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I wonder if 8 might be RED ARROW. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-25-2017, 09:28 AM	#3033
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	6. TAUR-EN-FAROTH. Awful= anagram indicator. So, switch around THREAT, FOR A and UN. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-25-2017, 02:31 PM	#3035
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	11. Dor-Lomin a questionable country because it was part of Hithlum? Later taken by Morgoth; destroyed in the War of Wrath. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

09-26-2017, 03:32 AM	#3036
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Not Dor-Lómin either, I'm afraid. You're overthinking this one. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?