Phantasy Thread: Arda Cup Football 2009

[wilwarin538]

Alrighty....

Feanor for Miriel.
Castamar for Nerdanel.
Elros for Theoden.
Kili for Felarof.
Arwen for Nazgul #7.
Ecthelion for Beleg.

Wilwa's Wonderful Winners

-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Miriel (Tuna)
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)

Predictions:

Angband versus Romenna - Romenna wins

Nargothrond versus Tol-in-Gaurhoth - Tol-in-Gaurhoth wins

Hithlum versus Taniquetil - Taniquetil wins

Eregion versus Dor-Lomin - Dor-lomin wins

Armenelos versus Erebor - Erebor wins

Edoras versus Minas Morgul - Edoras wins

Tuna versus Mirkwood - Tuna wins

Valimar versus Minas Tirith - Valimar wins

[Hakon]

GK Theoden(Edoras)

*DF Felarof(Edoras)
*DF Curufin (Nargothrond)
DF Ar Zimrathan(Aremenelos)
DF Frealaf(Edoras)

MF Earendil(Eregion)
**MF Melkor(Valimar)
MF Tilion(Valimar)

**FW Miriel(Tuna)(C)
*FW Finwe(Tuna)
FW Nerdanel(Tuna)

I am really worried about these trades because my last team got me 50 points. Anyway my trades are dropping Ar Pharazon, Feanor, Celebrimbor and Nazgul #6. I am adding Melkor, Finwe, Nerdanel and Felarof.

[Hakon]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Hakon- the tournament is simulated after I've done a few.... um... tweaks to the teams.

Do you use the fantasy soccer like program on espn.com? I am now wondering because you have a link to espn.com in your profile and you mentioned something about paying $29.95 a month for something.

[Gwathagor]

Ok, now I'm making up for that really bad round I had. But, Hakon - wow! 50 points!

[Hakon]

I got lucky by having Curufin on my team. Now I am almost regretting making trades cause that team got me 50 points.

[Gwathagor]

Trades

Drop:
Orodreth, Elfwine, Hurin, Tar Miriel, Feanor

Add:
Theoden, Felarof, Tilion, Miriel, Nerdanel

Roster:
GK - Theoden (Edoras)

DF - Felarof* (Edoras)
DF - Indis (Tuna)
DF - Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)

MF - Tilion (Valimar)
MF - Earendil (Eregion)
MF - Glaurung* (Nargothrond)
MF - Phantomwolf* (TIG)
MF - Melkor** (Valimar)

FW - Miriel** (Tuna) (C)
FW - Nerdanel (Tuna)

[Gwathagor]

Predictions:

Romenna beats Valimar

Tol-in-Gaurhoth beats Nargothrond

Hithlum beats Taniquetil

Eregion beats Dor-Lomin

Armenelos beats Erebor

Edoras beats Minas Morgul

Tuna beats Mirkwood

Valimar beats Minas Tirith

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Predictions:

Romenna beats Valimar

Tol-in-Gaurhoth beats Nargothrond

Hithlum beats Taniquetil

Eregion beats Dor-Lomin

Armenelos beats Erebor

Edoras beats Minas Morgul

Tuna beats Mirkwood

Valimar beats Minas Tirith

Romenna's not even playing Valimar.

[Boromir88]

Wow, did I have a horrible round...how was I supposed to know TIG would rot against Tuna, thanks tp's wolf.

Boro's Blunderbusters
-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
*MF- Anarion (Osgiliath)
*MF- Eol (Doriath)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)
________________________________________

--GK- Theoden (Edoras)
--DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
--*MF- Anarion (Osgiliath)
--*MF- Eol (Doriath)
--*MF- phantomwolf (TIG)
--MF- Tillion (Valimar)

++*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
++*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
++DF- Indis (Tuna)
++MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
++MF- Earendil (Eregion)
++*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)

__________________________________________________

Boro's Blunderbusters
*GK- Huan (Hithlum)
-DF- Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Valimar)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
-MF- Nazgul #6 (Mirkwood)
-MF- Beruthiel (Minas Morgul)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
*FW- Sauron (Armenolos)
**FW- Feanor (Hithlum) (C)

A near complete re-vamping...hopefully it works out better hehe.

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Oh, and my predictions with no commentary to make it easier...

Angband over Romenna

TIG over Nargothrond

Hithlum over Taniquetil

Eregion over Dor-Lomin

Armenelos over Erebor

Minas Morgul over Edoras

Tuna over Mirkwood

Valimar over Minas Tirith

[Hakon]

Why do you have so much faith in Feanor? He only did great in one round. Boro you really should add Miriel to your team. If you added her I bet you could win.

[Nerwen]

Nerwen's Nitpickers
GK- Elros (Romenna)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Angband)
MF- Tilion (Valimar)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
*MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C)

Dropping Turgon, Arwen, Idril, Ecthelion, Feanor.
Adding Miriel, Sauron, Tilion, Thuringwethil, Felarof.


Predictions

Angband vs Romenna: Angband wins.

Nargothrond versus Tol-in-Gaurhoth: Nargothrond wins.

Hithlum versus Taniquetil: Hithlum wins.

Eregion versus Dor-Lomin: Eregion wins

Armenelos versus Erebor: Armenelos wins.

Edoras versus Minas Morgul: Edoras wins.

Tuna versus Mirkwood: Tuna wins.

Valimar versus Minas Tirith: Valimar wins.

[skip spence]

Transfers:

Glaurung* out; Finwe* in (I refuse to get on the Miriel bandwagon, foolish though it seems)

Also: Out with the moon and in with the sun

And: Luthien* out; Ulmo* in

And finally: Orodreth out; Aule in

Shadwell Army

GK- Aule (Tuna)

DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
*DF- Ulmo (Hithlum)
DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos)
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)

MF- Tevildo (Angband)
*MF- Fingolfin (Hithlum)
MF- Arien (Valimar)

*FW Finwë (Tuna)
*FW- Ar-Pharazon (Armenelos) (C)
**FW- Fëanor (Hithlum)

Originally Posted by Hakon

Why do you have so much faith in Feanor? He only did great in one round. Boro you really should add Miriel to your team. If you added her I bet you could win.

Fëanor is the greatest striker to grace the game. That's canon. Besides, if you're behind, and put Miriel as captain, you're not going to gain anything on the leaders if they too have done the same thing, no matter how many goals she scores. Also, Miriel is a quitter. She's got excellent skills, sure, but as soon as the going gets tough, she just gives up, lies down and dies.

Predictions:

Angband vs Romenna: Angband wins.

Nargothrond versus Tol-in-Gaurhoth: T-i-G wins.

Hithlum versus Taniquetil: Hithlum wins.

Eregion versus Dor-Lomin: Eregion wins

Armenelos versus Erebor: Armenelos wins.

Edoras versus Minas Morgul: Minas Morgul wins.

Tuna versus Mirkwood: Tuna wins.

Valimar versus Minas Tirith: Valimar wins.

[wilwarin538]

I forgot to show who my captain was:

Wilwa's Wonderful Winners

-GK- Theoden (Edoras)
-DF- Indis (Tuna)
*DF- Felarof (Edoras)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
*DF- Nessa (Taniquetil)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Erebor)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-MF- Tilion (Valimar)
**FW- Miriel (Tuna) (C)
*FW- Beleg (Dor-lomin)
-FW- Nerdanel (Tuna)

[Hakon]

Originally Posted by skip spence

Fëanor is the greatest striker to grace the game. That's canon. Besides, if you're behind, and put Miriel as captain, you're not going to gain anything on the leaders if they too have done the same thing, no matter how many goals she scores. Also, Miriel is a quitter. She's got excellent skills, sure, but as soon as the going gets tough, she just gives up, lies down and dies.

Are you judging this based on last years competition?

[Hakon]

I am going to drop Nerdanel and take back Feanor. I am also going to drop Melkor for Gwindor.

GK Theoden(Edoras)

*DF Felarof(Edoras)
*DF Curufin (Nargothrond)
DF Ar Zimrathan(Aremenelos)
DF Frealaf(Edoras)

MF Earendil(Eregion)
MF- Gwindor(Angband)
MF Tilion(Valimar)

**FW Miriel(Tuna)(C)
*FW Finwe(Tuna)
**FW Feanor(Hithlum)

[Boromir88]

I second Skip...fight the power!

Hakon, well Miriel was actually a bit of surprise last year, Tuna didn't even make the finals (I think they made it to the Final 8) and Miriel was only 1 goal short (maybe 2) of being tied for most goals. And it seems like she's continuing that this year! But, I have questions how far Tuna can go, as their defense is what let them down last year, and one bad game from Miriel is all it takes.

[mormegil]

*GK- Mormwolf (TIG)
*DF Felarof (Edoras)
*DF Curufin (Nargothrond)
-DF- Gothmog II (Minas Morgul)
-DF Elfwine (Edoras)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF Tilion (Valimar))
*MF- Finarfin (Tuna)
*FW Finwe (Tuna)
**FW Miriel (Tuna) (C)
-FW- Eowyn (Edoras)

Curufin for Brand
Miriel for Turin
Felarof for Indis
Finwe for Feanor
Tilion for Phantomwolf
Elfwine for deadweight Treebeard

[skip spence]

Originally Posted by Hakon

Are you judging this based on last years competition?

Well, not really... Call it a hum!

[Hakon]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Hakon, well Miriel was actually a bit of surprise last year, Tuna didn't even make the finals (I think they made it to the Final 8) and Miriel was only 1 goal short (maybe 2) of being tied for most goals. And it seems like she's continuing that this year! But, I have questions how far Tuna can go, as their defense is what let them down last year, and one bad game from Miriel is all it takes.

If Tuna gets out any time soon it will be when they most likely go up against Valimar. Tuna will beat Mirkwood and Valimar will beat Minas Tirith. If I am right about the way the pairings for the next round will go then Valimar faces off with Tuna. I am thinking that this year it will come down to Valimar and Hithlum.

[mormegil]

Predictions

Angband versus Romenna--Romenna
Nargothrond versus Tol-in-Gaurhoth--TIG
Hithlum versus Taniquetil--Taniquetil
Eregion versus Dor-Lomin--Eregion
Armenelos versus Erebor--Armenelos
Edoras versus Minas Morgul--Edoras
Tuna versus Mirkwood--Tuna
Valimar versus Minas Tirith--Valimar

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Given that this is my first season, I'm pretty proud of myself for having Miriel on my team since the beginning.

[Hakon]

I have only had Feanor and Theoden on my team since the beginning. I am proud that I am in third place overall and this is my first season. I also came in first place for round three.

[mormegil]

This is my first season and I'm not very proud of how I'm doing.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by mormegil

This is my first season and I'm not very proud of how I'm doing.

Ditto.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by mormegil

This is my first season and I'm not very proud of how I'm doing.

Agreed

[Boromir88]

This is my first season, and I was proud, until the last round.

Actually who has done this before...I know Gwath and pretty sure Eomer too, anyone else?

[McCaber]

Gwath narrowly beat me out for the win last round. I'm not doing so hot this time, though.

Alright, let's try and do better. Gondolin was the heartbreaker for me. I was really betting on them advancing, possibly even getting to the semifinals. Ah well.

-- Turgon (Gondolin)
-- Tuor (Dor-Lomin)
-- Brand (Erebor)
-- Elros (Romenna)

++ Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
++ Fingon (Hithlum)
++ Balrog #3 (Tuna)
++ Balrog #5 (Angband)

The Next-to-Last Alliance
*GK- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
*DF- Celebrimbor (Eregion)
*DF- Balrog #3 (Tuna)
-DF- Elfwine (Edoras)
-DF- Balrog #5 (Angband)
*MF- Phantomwolf (TIG)
-MF- Earendil (Eregion)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
*FW- Maedhros (Hithlum) (C)
*FW- Sauron (Armenelos)
*FW- Maeglin (Angband)

And my picks:

Angband vs. Romenna - Angband
Nargothrond vs.Tol-in-Gaurhoth - T-i-G
Hithlum vs. Taniquetil - Hithlum
Eregion vs. Dor-Lomin - Eregion
Armenelos vs. Erebor - Armenelos
Edoras vs. Minas Morgul - Edoras
Tuna vs. Mirkwood - Mirkwood
Valimar vs. Minas Tirith - Valimar

[the phantom]

Sorry, but it's been a very busy time for me and Nog is away as well, but things will start rolling again soon enough. I scanned the thread briefly to see who had done trades and predictions, so anyone who hasn't done one of those things will be getting a reminder PM from me.

Gwath- you'll have to change that 3-5-2.

Boro- I love that you're writing out all those predictions on the thread and keeping track of your record. Reminds me so much of some of those bloggers during NFL season.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Boro- I love that you're writing out all those predictions on the thread and keeping track of your record. Reminds me so much of some of those bloggers during NFL season.

Haha, thanks...I wanted to do some sort of writing/reaction for the games, and thought about bringing back the "BCS"...erm soccer...power rankings like from the 1st year. But decided to go more with the blogger feel (although I call it more "a lazy analyst who sits at his computer, listening to Phil Collins, and somehow thinks because he can read stats he knows something about sports" ) in predictions and comments. But a blogger is a much better descriptor

[Nogrod]

I was in last year as well... I had my team built up with only females and dragons... (as long as it was possible )

I agree with Skip, there's no sense in everyone picking up the same players. Especially those behind need to pick players others don't have to gain points in comparison to others.

Heh, now as everyone is dumping Fëanor from their teams I might consider picking him up. And blah, my initial idea was to go back to my dynamic duo from last year, namely Miriel - Nerdanel by adding Nerdanel at this point but now as everyone is having her recruited I think I need to give up the idea even if would have loved to do it.

Needs to consider...

[Nogrod]

Predictions:

Angband versus Romenna - Angband
Nargothrond versus Tol-in-Gaurhoth -TIG
Hithlum versus Taniquetil - Hithlum
Eregion versus Dor-Lomin - Eregion
Armenelos versus Erebor - Armenelos
Edoras versus Minas Morgul - Edoras
Tuna versus Mirkwood - Tuna
Valimar versus Minas Tirith - Valimar


Changes:

Off with: Idril, Nogwolf, Celebrimbor
In with: Melkor, Nerdanel, Tar Telperien


Noggerball (Nogrod)

*GK Huan (Hithlum)

*DF Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF Balrog #5 (Angband)
-DF Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
-DF Ar Zimrathan (Armenelos)

-MF Eärendil (Eregion)
**MF Melkor (Valimar)
*MF Glaurung (Nargothrond)

-FW Aredhel (Hithlum)
**FW Miriel (Tuna) (C)
-FW Nerdanel (Tuna)


It starts to look like my team last year; just females & "beasts" (loosely understood)... but Eärendil! He must feel the odd one out there especially as I was forced to dump his mummy...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Come on guys, you're letting me down. I obviously ain't been whipping you enough.

Angband versus Romenna - Angband
Nargothrond versus Tol-in-Gaurhoth -Nargothrond
Hithlum versus Taniquetil - Hithlum
Eregion versus Dor-Lomin - Eregion
Armenelos versus Erebor - Armenelos
Edoras versus Minas Morgul - Edoras
Tuna versus Mirkwood - Tuna
Valimar versus Minas Tirith - Valimar

Let me think about trades for a moment...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)
**GK- Elrond (Eregion)
*DF- Luthien (Nargothrond)
-DF- Treebeard (Mirkwood)
-DF- Ar-Zimrathan (Armenelos)
-DF- Ulfast (Angband)
-MF- Finrod (Hithlum)
-MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
-MF- Elrohir (Eregion)
-MF- Varda (Taniquetil)
**FW- Ancalagon (Angband)
*FW- SPMwolf (T-I-G)

Getting rid of Durin and Gimli and adding Treebeard (mirkwood) and Elrohir (Eregion)

[skip spence]

Eomer and Nogrod,

Don't forget to assign captains!

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by skip spence

Eomer and Nogrod,

Don't forget to assign captains!

Oops! I sacked myself from captain's position and forgot to assign a new one...

Okay, I protested already before the games began that Shasta took my captain (Miriel) and decided to take someone else. Now I need to eat my words...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Eomer, you're allowed another star if you want it.

[Hakon]

I am going to make my original trade again. I had Feanor I traded him for Nerdanel and then I dropped her. I am going to add her again and drop Feanor again. I am also going to switch Gwindor back to Melkor.

GK Theoden(Edoras)

*DF Felarof(Edoras)
*DF Curufin (Nargothrond)
DF Ar Zimrathan(Aremenelos)
DF Frealaf(Edoras)


MF Earendil(Eregion)
**MF- Melkor(Valimar)
MF Tilion(Valimar)


**FW Miriel(Tuna)
*FW Finwe(Tuna)
FW Nerdanel(Tuna)

[the phantom]

We're already writing the first round playoff matches, but we're waiting to post them in hopes that people will get their trades, predictions, or formation changes done. If anyone is in contact with Eonwe, TGEW, or Gwath, please tell them to check their PMs.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Can we add an extra star? No matter: I have complete faith in my players.

Ancalagon the Black is still my captain. There's still time to turn this around!

[Eönwë]

Thank you for waiting phantom. Just a second while I finish off...

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Wow, I'm not doing so awesome.

You think you're doing bad?