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Orual · 01-14-2003, 02:27 PM

The Lord of the Rings took around thirteen years to write. The book, naturally, didn't stay the same in those thirteen years--there were changes, upheaveals, many, many revisions. Among these changes were the names of the characters. In this thread, I'll give the original name, and you tell me what name this character ended up with.

We'll start with Bladorthin.

the real findorfin · 01-14-2003, 04:01 PM

I didn't think this was ever resolved, apart from a guess that he was a King of Dorwinion in the east. But plz correct me if I am wrong.

Orual · 01-14-2003, 09:42 PM

Eh, is this controversial? I've only seen one source with this, so if it is a source of controversy, I'll certainly take it down. But no, the answer that I'm looking for isn't a king.

~*~Orual~*~

LePetitChoux · 01-15-2003, 02:00 PM

Merry or Pippin or Saruman...

GANDALF!

Beren87 · 01-15-2003, 03:36 PM

My sources say he was a king, probably an elf, who ordered spears from the Dwarves of Erebor but died before they were delivered. The name is found in the Hobbit.

Legolas · 01-15-2003, 04:43 PM

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They wondered if they were still lying there unharmed in the hall below: the spears that were made for the armies of the great King Bladorthin (long since dead), each had a thrice-forged head and their shafts were inlaid with cunning gold, but they were never delivered or paid for;

Looks like a king to me.

Orual · 01-15-2003, 06:50 PM

LePetitChoux is right. Bladorthin was Tolkien's original name for Gandalf. (Or at least, so it said in the booklet that came with the Map of the Hobbit.)

I don't know if I was very clear with the instructions in my first post: this is a quiz thread for the ORIGINAL names of characters. Like, names that Tolkien gave them in the first drafts and later on changed.

LePetitChoux, carry on.

~*~Orual~*~

LePetitChoux · 01-17-2003, 12:00 PM

I can't find anything. As Beren87 was the only one apart fro me who answered, I gallantly give up my turn. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 01-17-2003, 12:01 PM

Ah! Thank ye, Lepetit, 'twas a kind gesture.

Highdei.

Sapphire_Flame · 01-17-2003, 12:12 PM

You should know who this is:

Trotter. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 01-17-2003, 12:15 PM

Erm, Sapphire_Flame, I just asked a question.

The current word is, Highdei

Sindae · 01-17-2003, 05:12 PM

Trotter was Aragorn...glad that Tolkien changed it!!!
Well, I think it's my turn now, isn't it? If not ignore this:
Who is Faramond Took?

The current word is Highdei? Oops...I'm sorry, didn't notice it...well just ignore Faramond ok?

[ January 17, 2003: Message edited by: Sindae ]

LePetitChoux · 01-18-2003, 05:32 AM

Highdae: One of the Valar? (as in "High Deity"?)...but it doesn't sound godly enough...
Ioreth?

It keeps reminding me of a member called Sindae...

As for Faramond Took, Pippin. Or Bullroarer.

I'm awfully Sorry, Legalos! I completely didn't notice you! So Beren87 wasn't the only one who answered...Sorry sorry sorry! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] How can I make it up to you? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 01-18-2003, 12:15 PM

HAha, lets just use Faramond Took.

Mine are absurdly difficult.

Sindae · 01-18-2003, 04:42 PM

Well, Pippin is right.

hobbitlass · 01-19-2003, 11:35 PM

Just to be a smartacre, Highdei is Shire reckoning for Friday. According to 'Complete guide to Middle-Earth'.

Beren87 · 01-20-2003, 12:41 AM

Well, a smartacre you will always be hobbitlass! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (Though my must say your in the company of the best when on this site)

So I believe it's Lepetit's turn.

01-14-2003, 02:27 PM	#1
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	The Character Formerly Known As... The Lord of the Rings took around thirteen years to write. The book, naturally, didn't stay the same in those thirteen years--there were changes, upheaveals, many, many revisions. Among these changes were the names of the characters. In this thread, I'll give the original name, and you tell me what name this character ended up with. We'll start with Bladorthin. __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

01-14-2003, 04:01 PM	#2
the real findorfin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 514	I didn't think this was ever resolved, apart from a guess that he was a King of Dorwinion in the east. But plz correct me if I am wrong. __________________ Legends of Middle Earth

01-14-2003, 09:42 PM	#3
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	Eh, is this controversial? I've only seen one source with this, so if it is a source of controversy, I'll certainly take it down. But no, the answer that I'm looking for isn't a king. ~~Orual~~ __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

01-15-2003, 02:00 PM	#4
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	Merry or Pippin or Saruman... GANDALF! __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

01-15-2003, 06:50 PM	#7
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	LePetitChoux is right. Bladorthin was Tolkien's original name for Gandalf. (Or at least, so it said in the booklet that came with the Map of the Hobbit.) I don't know if I was very clear with the instructions in my first post: this is a quiz thread for the ORIGINAL names of characters. Like, names that Tolkien gave them in the first drafts and later on changed. LePetitChoux, carry on. ~~Orual~~ __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

01-15-2003, 03:36 PM	#5
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	My sources say he was a king, probably an elf, who ordered spears from the Dwarves of Erebor but died before they were delivered. The name is found in the Hobbit.

01-17-2003, 12:00 PM	#8
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	I can't find anything. As Beren87 was the only one apart fro me who answered, I gallantly give up my turn. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

01-17-2003, 12:01 PM	#9
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Ah! Thank ye, Lepetit, 'twas a kind gesture. Highdei.

01-17-2003, 12:12 PM	#10
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	You should know who this is: Trotter. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

01-17-2003, 12:15 PM	#11
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Erm, Sapphire_Flame, I just asked a question. The current word is, Highdei

01-17-2003, 05:12 PM	#12
Sindae Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a messy room in the world's best city Posts: 95	Trotter was Aragorn...glad that Tolkien changed it!!! Well, I think it's my turn now, isn't it? If not ignore this: Who is Faramond Took? The current word is Highdei? Oops...I'm sorry, didn't notice it...well just ignore Faramond ok? [ January 17, 2003: Message edited by: Sindae ] __________________ My page about Iceland

01-18-2003, 05:32 AM	#13
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	Highdae: One of the Valar? (as in "High Deity"?)...but it doesn't sound godly enough... Ioreth? It keeps reminding me of a member called Sindae... As for Faramond Took, Pippin. Or Bullroarer. I'm awfully Sorry, Legalos! I completely didn't notice you! So Beren87 wasn't the only one who answered...Sorry sorry sorry! [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] How can I make it up to you? [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

01-18-2003, 12:15 PM	#14
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	HAha, lets just use Faramond Took. Mine are absurdly difficult.

01-18-2003, 04:42 PM	#15
Sindae Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: a messy room in the world's best city Posts: 95	Well, Pippin is right. __________________ My page about Iceland

01-19-2003, 11:35 PM	#16
hobbitlass Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: next to the fire keeping warm Posts: 471	Just to be a smartacre, Highdei is Shire reckoning for Friday. According to 'Complete guide to Middle-Earth'. __________________ Just because a person has the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do.

01-20-2003, 12:41 AM	#17
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Well, a smartacre you will always be hobbitlass! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (Though my must say your in the company of the best when on this site) So I believe it's Lepetit's turn.