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10-07-2020, 04:02 PM | #1 |
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A proto-Angmar in the Second Age
If Sauron sent the WK and another Nazgul to raise a pre-third age Angmar during the reigns of Elendil in Arnor, how would a war between Elendil and the WK be?
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10-14-2020, 01:19 PM | #2 | |
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The number of troops required by Sauron to have been sent north for a serious assault would certainly have been noticed by his enemies, and would have left Mordor itself open to attack.
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10-14-2020, 03:22 PM | #3 |
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I rather think that Sauron was desperately trying to regroup after his surprise dis-embodiment in Numenor, and scraping up enough troops just to deal with Gondor. And the notion of offensive ops against Elendil and pre-Last Alliance Gil-Galad/Lindon strikes me as Sauron sticking his head in a hornet's nest. One Nazgul? Curbstomp (let's not forget that the W-K was afraid of one Noldo, Glorfindel. You think he can take an army of them?)
The 3rd Age Angmar project took centuries to pay dividends- against a weak and divided Arnor.
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Yes. While referring to Lindon, not Arnor, Appendix A is entirely explicit on this point:
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*And this is taking into account the remark in Myths Transformed about Morgoth's First Age power compared to Sauron's in the Second.
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10-15-2020, 04:58 PM | #5 |
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It's also the case that Tolkien said (can't find the source at the moment) that a significant factor in Arnor's later weakness was that it was stunted in childhood, by the massacre of most of its fighting men at the Gladden Fields.
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