Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, game thread - Page 21 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lalaith · 05-09-2020, 02:45 PM

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Again, I would rather have the hunter have their shot than have them as a known innocent

Why? I like known innocents personally. Particularly ones the wolves are too scared to kill.

Loslote · 05-09-2020, 02:45 PM

The fact that Sally just dropped this and apparently left without saying who her pick is does make me think she's more likely to be a wolf, at least.

Still, really don't want to take the risk that she might be hunting me, since I've been at the top of her list for Days now.

Macalaure · 05-09-2020, 02:45 PM

If we want to lynch somebody other than Sally, then who?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-09-2020, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I don't think I have ever seen anything make as little sense as this post.

Very weird.

What do you mean? Makes perfect sense.

If Wolves learn about a known Hunter, then every time they have chance to kill them, there's the risk that one of them will be pulled to the grave along. But in numbers, a Hunter is just one innocent. A known innocent for the WWs but not-entirely-known for the village! And the WWs can pick any other victim to kill every Night. They have like over a dozen others to pick from!

If sally doesn't tell us NOW who she's hunting, I may vote her, seriously.

Pitchwife · 05-09-2020, 02:46 PM

I don't want to vote Zil precisely because he's offered himself.

Thinlómien · 05-09-2020, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Thing is, if we lynch sally and she hits a wolf, we're one wolf down but we also loose an innocent. Whereas if we lynch a wolf instead -

Yeah, but listen. If we lynch anyone else, there's a chance they're just an ordo. With Sally, it's either a wolf or the hunter, who is the innocent losing whom can be a good thing for us. Unlike losing an ordo. Think it through. (I guess if you ignore how suspicious Sally is and that a real hunter would really consider before revealing it boils down to whether you want to take your chances with one extra person dying who might or might not be a wolf.)

edit: again xed, now I will breathe deep and catch up

Macalaure · 05-09-2020, 02:47 PM

I don't like the idea of a last minute panic bandwaggon.

I don't like the idea of a last minute everybody-votes-everybody chaos.

I don't like any of this!

Lalaith · 05-09-2020, 02:48 PM

Salllllly!!!
Tell us!!!

Pitchwife · 05-09-2020, 02:48 PM

And if sally hits an innocent we're down to innocents.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 05-09-2020, 02:48 PM

I could vote Eonwe, Inzil, Brinn or Lottie without feeling too bad. Though right now I am inclined to have Lottie at the bottom of that list because of her vote (if not for that vote she would probably be at the top).

Brinniel · 05-09-2020, 02:48 PM

For me, it's still between Zil and Sally. I would like to know who she's hunting though.

Loslote · 05-09-2020, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Yeah, but listen. If we lynch anyone else, there's a chance they're just an ordo. With Sally, it's either a wolf or the hunter, who is the innocent losing whom can be a good thing for us. Unlike losing an ordo. Think it through. (I guess if you ignore how suspicious Sally is and that a real hunter would really consider before revealing it boils down to whether you want to take your chances with one extra person dying who might or might not be a wolf.)

Unless we lynch the hunter who hunts an ordo, and then we're just down two innocents. And since she's been suspecting me and Pitch, and I know I'm innocent and Pitch is one of the people I trust the most right now, I really don't want to let her just kill one of us.

Boromir88 · 05-09-2020, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

I don't like the idea of a last minute panic bandwaggon.

I don't like the idea of a last minute everybody-votes-everybody chaos.

I don't like any of this!

Concur.

And panic-wagon caused by the claimed hunter who promptly disappeared.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-09-2020, 02:50 PM

Just saying that Sally had the RL commitment and whatnot, but she clearly had enough time on her hands after her reveal to still post noncommital posts. And now silence. Nope. I'm voting her.

Lalaith · 05-09-2020, 02:50 PM

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And panic-wagon caused by the claimed hunter who promptly disappeared.

Exactly.

Loslote · 05-09-2020, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Just saying that Sally had the RL commitment and whatnot, but she clearly had enough time on her hands after her reveal to still post noncommital posts. And now silence. Nope. I'm voting her.

Lowkey really annoyed about this. Sally, I swear, if you are the hunter and you just didn't tell us who you're hunting, gonna be mad.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 05-09-2020, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

What do you mean? Makes perfect sense.

If Wolves learn about a known Hunter, then every time they have chance to kill them, there's the risk that one of them will be pulled to the grave along. But in numbers, a Hunter is just one innocent. A known innocent for the WWs but not-entirely-known for the village! And the WWs can pick any other victim to kill every Night. They have like over a dozen others to pick from!

If sally doesn't tell us NOW who she's hunting, I may vote her, seriously.

I guess I don't see this as an actual problem for the village, at least not now (I accept that if a wolf does a counter-reveal in the closing stages of a game it might get messy, but that is it).

I completely agree that Sally has been acting odd with this reveal, but I think we have too much to loose by voting for her.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-09-2020, 02:51 PM

There would come a point where we'd QT Sally as the last possible wolf. But I'm more inclined to think she's a wolf the longer she goes without posting, so I'm more fine with QTing her, I guess. If she answers, it could be a lie anyway.

Thinlómien · 05-09-2020, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith

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Originally Posted by me

Again, I would rather have the hunter have their shot than have them as a known innocent

Why? I like known innocents personally. Particularly ones the wolves are too scared to kill.

You personally like known innocents, I personally like dead wolves, and I'm willing to take risks to get them.

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Originally Posted by Legate

If Wolves learn about a known Hunter, then every time they have chance to kill them, there's the risk that one of them will be pulled to the grave along. But in numbers, a Hunter is just one innocent. A known innocent for the WWs but not-entirely-known for the village! And the WWs can pick any other victim to kill every Night. They have like over a dozen others to pick from!

Hear, hear. See how some of you were suspecting Kit because she didn't die the second she made a rangerish comment. What do you honestly imagine would happen with Sally?

oh holy

I just looked at clock!!!!

Let's take the Sally chance, no weird last minute things please!!!

edit: xed with a million people again

Macalaure · 05-09-2020, 02:52 PM

Unless it's a last-minute bandwaggon against Greenie. That I could live with.

My gut feels very strongly against lynching Inzil. Same with Boro, to be honest, to stick with my own list of suspects.

Lhuna perhaps?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-09-2020, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

And if sally hits an innocent we're down to innocents.

Why would she, though? Why is it any likely that she would hit an innocent? She claims to be a Hunter! She should go after someone whose death would help the village. And if she misses, well, then it's simply as if she would have similarly likely missed had she been killed otherwise too.

Loslote · 05-09-2020, 02:53 PM

++Sally

DON'T HUNT ME. I am not a wolf.

satansaloser2005 · 05-09-2020, 02:53 PM

I'm fallible like the rest of you. I'm hunting someone I find suspicious, but I could be wrong.

Thinlómien · 05-09-2020, 02:53 PM

Seriously I think hunter Sally would play smarter than this.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-09-2020, 02:54 PM

Speaking of Lhuna et al, I "like" how half people haven't appeared at all.

Loslote · 05-09-2020, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I'm fallible like the rest of you. I'm hunting someone I find suspicious, but I could be wrong.

Yeah, she's a wolf.

Thinlómien · 05-09-2020, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I'm fallible like the rest of you. I'm hunting someone I find suspicious, but I could be wrong.

Geeeez stop trolling!

satansaloser2005 · 05-09-2020, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Seriously I think hunter Sally would play smarter than this.

I'd love to, but I'm sick and busy.

I still have time to change my pick, so we'll see what happens.

Macalaure · 05-09-2020, 02:54 PM

We're still relatively early in the game, so the chances of a hunter picking an innocent is relatively high and worth the risk for the wolves. It's in the end game that a hunter is very powerful.

satansaloser2005 · 05-09-2020, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

We're still relatively early in the game, so the chances of a hunter picking an innocent is relatively high and worth the risk for the wolves. It's in the end game that a hunter is very powerful.

Exactly my point!

Lalaith · 05-09-2020, 02:55 PM

Ok fine. Good luck if you're the Hunter Sally. So long if you're not. I'll miss your insouciance either way.
++ Sally

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-09-2020, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I'm fallible like the rest of you. I'm hunting someone I find suspicious, but I could be wrong.

ok no. this nails it. A NAME? NO? THEN DIE AND CURSE IN VAIN

Thinlómien · 05-09-2020, 02:56 PM

5 minutes guys

Do something!

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-09-2020, 02:56 PM

++sally

Her blood be on us and on our children.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-09-2020, 02:56 PM

++Sally

-shrug emoji-

Macalaure · 05-09-2020, 02:57 PM

I'm on the fence, but anybody who actually wants to save Sally goofed it up by not coming up with an alternative in time...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 05-09-2020, 02:57 PM

Topic for the next Day: "Who among those who abstained from voting (or voted when it matters no more) are Wolves, et cetera."

satansaloser2005 · 05-09-2020, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

I'm on the fence, but anybody who actually wants to save Sally goofed it up by not coming up with an alternative in time...

Let's just kill Lottie and be safe.

I'm beyond giving a crap. Rude.

Loslote · 05-09-2020, 02:57 PM

Well, since I only remember you mentioning that you suspect me and Pitch, I would like to remind you that we both voted for Huinwolf at a time when those votes meant he shot up in likelihood of being quarantined. Don't hunt either of us. There are WAY more suspicious people. The fact that you only mentioned us makes me like 90% sure you are a wolf, but if you're really the Hunter and you kill me, I swear, you will be so embarrassed.

Brinniel · 05-09-2020, 02:58 PM

++Sally

If she's the hunter, I don't understand why she would not say her pick.

X-ed with a bunch of posts

05-09-2020, 02:45 PM	#802
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	The fact that Sally just dropped this and apparently left without saying who her pick is does make me think she's more likely to be a wolf, at least. Still, really don't want to take the risk that she might be hunting me, since I've been at the top of her list for Days now. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris Last edited by Loslote; 05-09-2020 at 02:46 PM. Reason: xed with Nog and Lalaith

05-09-2020, 02:46 PM	#805
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	I don't want to vote Zil precisely because he's offered himself. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

05-09-2020, 02:48 PM	#808
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Salllllly!!! Tell us!!! __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

05-09-2020, 02:48 PM	#809
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	And if sally hits an innocent we're down to innocents. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

05-09-2020, 02:48 PM	#811
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	For me, it's still between Zil and Sally. I would like to know who she's hunting though. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

05-09-2020, 02:45 PM	#803
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	If we want to lynch somebody other than Sally, then who?

05-09-2020, 02:47 PM	#807
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	I don't like the idea of a last minute panic bandwaggon. I don't like the idea of a last minute everybody-votes-everybody chaos. I don't like any of this!

05-09-2020, 02:50 PM	#814
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Just saying that Sally had the RL commitment and whatnot, but she clearly had enough time on her hands after her reveal to still post noncommital posts. And now silence. Nope. I'm voting her. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-09-2020, 02:51 PM	#818
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	There would come a point where we'd QT Sally as the last possible wolf. But I'm more inclined to think she's a wolf the longer she goes without posting, so I'm more fine with QTing her, I guess. If she answers, it could be a lie anyway. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

05-09-2020, 02:52 PM	#820
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Unless it's a last-minute bandwaggon against Greenie. That I could live with. My gut feels very strongly against lynching Inzil. Same with Boro, to be honest, to stick with my own list of suspects. Lhuna perhaps?

05-09-2020, 02:53 PM	#822
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	++Sally DON'T HUNT ME. I am not a wolf. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

05-09-2020, 02:53 PM	#823
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I'm fallible like the rest of you. I'm hunting someone I find suspicious, but I could be wrong. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

05-09-2020, 02:53 PM	#824
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Seriously I think hunter Sally would play smarter than this. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

05-09-2020, 02:54 PM	#825
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Speaking of Lhuna et al, I "like" how half people haven't appeared at all. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-09-2020, 02:54 PM	#829
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	We're still relatively early in the game, so the chances of a hunter picking an innocent is relatively high and worth the risk for the wolves. It's in the end game that a hunter is very powerful.

05-09-2020, 02:55 PM	#831
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Ok fine. Good luck if you're the Hunter Sally. So long if you're not. I'll miss your insouciance either way. ++ Sally __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

05-09-2020, 02:56 PM	#833
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	5 minutes guys Do something! __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

05-09-2020, 02:56 PM	#834
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	++sally Her blood be on us and on our children. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-09-2020, 02:56 PM	#835
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	++Sally -shrug emoji- __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

05-09-2020, 02:57 PM	#836
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	I'm on the fence, but anybody who actually wants to save Sally goofed it up by not coming up with an alternative in time...

05-09-2020, 02:57 PM	#837
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Topic for the next Day: "Who among those who abstained from voting (or voted when it matters no more) are Wolves, et cetera." __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

05-09-2020, 02:57 PM	#839
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	Well, since I only remember you mentioning that you suspect me and Pitch, I would like to remind you that we both voted for Huinwolf at a time when those votes meant he shot up in likelihood of being quarantined. Don't hunt either of us. There are WAY more suspicious people. The fact that you only mentioned us makes me like 90% sure you are a wolf, but if you're really the Hunter and you kill me, I swear, you will be so embarrassed. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

05-09-2020, 02:58 PM	#840
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	++Sally If she's the hunter, I don't understand why she would not say her pick. X-ed with a bunch of posts __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum