What If: The Noldor never leave - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

denethorthefirst What If: The Noldor never... 02-19-2019, 08:38 AM

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denethorthefirst How likely is it that Doriath... 02-23-2019, 05:39 AM

William Cloud Hicklin Even Tolkien wasn't certain... 03-03-2019, 05:32 PM

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William Cloud Hicklin

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And we know that Morgoth left Angband at least once (to visit Hildorien).

Even Tolkien wasn't certain about that; elsewhere in Morgoth's Ring he raises the idea that it was Sauron, not his boss, who handled the Corrupt The Newborn Men job.

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