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06-06-2002, 01:34 PM

it seems like elves are always depicted as feasting, making wise descisions, singing, hunting/gaurding that sorta thing.
but do elves have servents? and if they do, are they elf servants? where do they go to the bathroom? (i know, personal question, but it's never mentioned in any book by tolkien! can't you just see the company running from orcs and pippin shouting to gandalf, "Gandalf! I really, really gotta go!" and gandalf replies, "fool of a took! you shoulda gone before we were attacked!")
also, is the only thing considered fun for elves singing and poetry? these are all questions pressing my mind.

Birdland · 06-06-2002, 11:02 PM

Well, Rilwen, remember that in The Hobbit, there was an Elven butler, and the Elven version of longshoreman, as well. Hey, even in "Fair Elfland", someone had to do the work.

Now, whether the elves shared duties in a form of communistic society (There. Happy, Gimli, Son of Gloin?) or if they worked hard for their silver pennies; Tolkien refuses to reveal.

06-07-2002, 02:34 AM

I don't understand though. Why would Elves need servants or butlers? Since, of course, they have all the time they need, and, why would a being so kind-hearted want to put someone to work. And, actually, throughout all the books I've read, I've never actually seen something saying : "And so the elf worked for silver pennies". Elves didn't go by money. They never worked for it and never payed it. So then, unless if it were an elf taking care of another, elves would most likely be self-served.

Nevfeniel · 06-07-2002, 07:38 AM

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where do they go to the bathroom? (i know, personal question, but it's never mentioned in any book by tolkien!

Gee, wonder why. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Arwen Imladris · 06-07-2002, 02:03 PM

In english we just finished Lord of the Flies (no, it is not at all related to the Lord of the Rings) It actually talks about where and how they went to the bathroom! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] But it is the only book that I have ever read that does that. I'm telling ya, the dude who wrote it had problems. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Sorry that was kind of not related. Oh well, deal. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Frodo Baggins · 06-07-2002, 07:14 PM

Well, since were asking personal questions about Elves:

Do Elves become ill? Do they throw up? (just curious)

Do Elves cry?

Do Elves become tired to the point od exhaustion?

Do you think Elrond was sad when Celebrian left Middle-Earth??

These questions have been bugging me for a while.

Lomelinde · 06-07-2002, 08:42 PM

Ooo, interesting stuff. I can tackle a couple of these.

Frodo Baggins- Elves can't get sick persay, but they can get drunk (read the Hobbit) and I'll bet they can also get some pretty nasty hangovers too. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Yes, elves probably do cry, although they are way more reserved than Men, and I'm also willing to bet that Elrond shed a few tears when a very traumatized Celebrian had to leave Middle-Earth, but keep in mind that he also knew their parting was not a permanent one.

As for the other questions, ummm... No se. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-07-2002, 08:51 PM

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Very soon the chief guard nodded his head, then laid it in the table and fell fast asleep. The butler went on talking and laughing and himself for a while without seeming to notice, but soon his head too nodded to the table, and he fell asleep and snored beside his friend.

The Hobbit

That was in the hobbit when Thorin & Co. were captured in Mirkwood and taken to the Elvenking's palace. So they did have butlers.

Elves are living beings, so of course they get sick. However, since they are immmortal, they would not get sick to the point of death. I'm pretty sure they threw up.

Everyone cries, even elves.

Everyone tires. When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli were pusuing the Uruk-Hai all of them were complaining of how tired they were.

I don't know who Celebrian is, as I haven't read The Silmarillian yet.

Where do elves go to the bathroom? Come on, the same place as everyone! In a bush, in a chamber pot! In a cup! In the toliet!

Why don't we apply all these questions to dwarves?

(My first Tolkien relarted post in a week [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img])
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Naaramare · 06-07-2002, 09:38 PM

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I don't know who Celebrian is, as I haven't read The Silmarillian yet.

Galadriel's daughter, Elrond's wife, mother of Arwen, Elladan and Elrohir. Severely tortured by orcs, hence the reason the Twins kept running out with the Dunadan to slaughter the things.

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-07-2002, 11:40 PM

Oh.

Raefindel · 06-08-2002, 09:31 AM

Gimli, there is a brief account of Celebrian in the appendix in ROTK. I found it interesting.

[ June 08, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ]

Frodo Baggins · 06-08-2002, 10:07 AM

More silly questions:

Do elves have nightmares?? (I know DUMB question)

Do elves wear wedding rings???

I had another but I cannot remember it. Oh well.

06-08-2002, 10:22 AM

Elves probably have nightmares, but they're so well reserved that you would never know if they had a good dream or not.
Do they wear Wedding rings? Probably

Frodo Baggins · 06-08-2002, 03:38 PM

Ready for more silly questions???

What kind of shoes do elves wear?

Do elves faint?? (probably the dumbest one yet)

Are Elf-children well behaved??

Raefindel · 06-08-2002, 03:46 PM

Yes they wear wedding rings on their RIGHT hands. Ask Nufaciel for the page #. It's in "Morgoth's ring" in the Sil.

Elf children are so well behaved that they require very little what's the word I'm looking for ... it's not guidance... instruction.

Nevfeniel · 06-08-2002, 04:58 PM

Do you mean dicipline, Raefindel?

Frodo Baggins · 06-08-2002, 05:32 PM

On their RIGHT hands?? Interesting.......

Frodo Baggins · 06-09-2002, 10:34 PM

Why is no one posting here?

What kind of shoes to Elves wear??

Ithaeliel · 06-09-2002, 10:41 PM

Tight green shoes that are pointy and have jingle bells on the ends!

No, just kidding, they were said to wear flat-soled shoes that were noiseless instead of boots for traveling, or on many occasions I suppose they went barefoot. Lucky!

Gimli Son Of Gloin · 06-10-2002, 12:02 AM

What would have happened if Legolas had taken a bath in Galadriel's mirror(from the secret diaries)

Joy · 06-10-2002, 12:11 AM

Gimli, you know better than to be reading the secret diaries. Shame on you [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

But anyway, he'd probably be kicked all the way to the Eymn Muil. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Frodo Baggins · 06-10-2002, 03:33 PM

Gimli would have been kiched att the way to Mordor and back!

Barefoot?? Really lucky!!

obloquy · 06-10-2002, 10:01 PM

scottish guys wear skirts but they dont call them skirts theyre called kilts so that makes them not gay i guess

Mornie Alantie · 06-11-2002, 10:22 AM

I think Elves are Like the coolest of all ME ah um thingss [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] . I also think they were Tolkiens favorite, I mean come on he wrote the entire Silmarilion on them

But words of wisdom (sometimes) TO EACH HIS OWN

Frodo Baggins · 06-13-2002, 09:29 PM

Hmmmm...

Do Elves sleep?????

Susan Delgado · 06-14-2002, 05:06 PM

Certainly...but they probably require less sleep than a human.

The Silver-shod Muse · 06-15-2002, 06:26 PM

I thought that Elves just did this meditation thing where they experienced visions and the like instead of sleeping. When Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are pursuing Merry, Pippin and the Orcs, Legolas took watch duty while the other two slept because he didn't need it. He had "slept" while on the foot.

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Frodo Baggins · 08-24-2002, 06:00 PM

Hmmmmm............

Do elves wash their hair???

Nevfeniel · 08-24-2002, 09:02 PM

Of course Elves wash their hair! Why do you think it's so nice and shiny?
Now, the real question is: do they use some special shampoo?

Frodo Baggins · 08-25-2002, 08:33 PM

Do elf siblings argue with each other when they are young????

Some elves are healers but what happenes when the healer needs healing??

Frodo Baggins · 08-26-2002, 11:49 AM

C'mon people! Just take a few miniutes to answer the ravings of a hobbit!!!

LadyElbereth · 08-26-2002, 12:08 PM

how 'bout...
Can elves have poor eye sight? if so, do they wear glasses?

Aranel · 08-26-2002, 12:13 PM

Elves don't have bad eyesight.They see about a million times better than we could imagine,I'm thinking.Erego,no glasses.
Here's an idiotic question for you...do elves have underarm hair? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Aranel · 08-26-2002, 12:15 PM

Just a note...I know it is spelled Thoreau and not Thorough,but it was like three am so cut me some slack...
[img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Aramacil · 08-26-2002, 12:31 PM

I don't know if they have underarm hair and I don't care. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

This Topic is getting a little to personal. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Lhunbelethiel · 08-26-2002, 01:23 PM

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Do elves wash their hair???

Apparently not... why do you think Aragorn, at the Council of Elrond, said "have a bath, Legolas"?!?!?

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

(inside joke to some fellow Downers who may remember that topic....hehehe)

06-06-2002, 01:34 PM	#1
rilwen Guest Posts: n/a	everyday stuff with elves it seems like elves are always depicted as feasting, making wise descisions, singing, hunting/gaurding that sorta thing. but do elves have servents? and if they do, are they elf servants? where do they go to the bathroom? (i know, personal question, but it's never mentioned in any book by tolkien! can't you just see the company running from orcs and pippin shouting to gandalf, "Gandalf! I really, really gotta go!" and gandalf replies, "fool of a took! you shoulda gone before we were attacked!") also, is the only thing considered fun for elves singing and poetry? these are all questions pressing my mind.

06-07-2002, 02:03 PM	#5
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	In english we just finished Lord of the Flies (no, it is not at all related to the Lord of the Rings) It actually talks about where and how they went to the bathroom! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] But it is the only book that I have ever read that does that. I'm telling ya, the dude who wrote it had problems. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] Sorry that was kind of not related. Oh well, deal. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

06-07-2002, 07:14 PM	#6
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Well, since were asking personal questions about Elves: Do Elves become ill? Do they throw up? (just curious) Do Elves cry? Do Elves become tired to the point od exhaustion? Do you think Elrond was sad when Celebrian left Middle-Earth?? These questions have been bugging me for a while. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

06-07-2002, 08:42 PM	#7
Lomelinde Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ha! Wouldn't you like to know? Posts: 80	Ooo, interesting stuff. I can tackle a couple of these. Frodo Baggins- Elves can't get sick persay, but they can get drunk (read the Hobbit) and I'll bet they can also get some pretty nasty hangovers too. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Yes, elves probably do cry, although they are way more reserved than Men, and I'm also willing to bet that Elrond shed a few tears when a very traumatized Celebrian had to leave Middle-Earth, but keep in mind that he also knew their parting was not a permanent one. As for the other questions, ummm... No se. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ The Dwarf breathes so loud I could've shot him in the dark, drunk, blindfolded and hanging upside down from a tree.

06-07-2002, 11:40 PM	#10
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	Oh. __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

06-06-2002, 11:02 PM	#2
Birdland Ghastly Neekerbreeker Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the banks of the mighty Scioto Posts: 1,751	Well, Rilwen, remember that in The Hobbit, there was an Elven butler, and the Elven version of longshoreman, as well. Hey, even in "Fair Elfland", someone had to do the work. Now, whether the elves shared duties in a form of communistic society (There. Happy, Gimli, Son of Gloin?) or if they worked hard for their silver pennies; Tolkien refuses to reveal.

06-07-2002, 02:34 AM	#3
ramptusia Guest Posts: n/a	I don't understand though. Why would Elves need servants or butlers? Since, of course, they have all the time they need, and, why would a being so kind-hearted want to put someone to work. And, actually, throughout all the books I've read, I've never actually seen something saying : "And so the elf worked for silver pennies". Elves didn't go by money. They never worked for it and never payed it. So then, unless if it were an elf taking care of another, elves would most likely be self-served.

06-08-2002, 09:31 AM	#11
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Gimli, there is a brief account of Celebrian in the appendix in ROTK. I found it interesting. [ June 08, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

06-08-2002, 10:07 AM	#12
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	More silly questions: Do elves have nightmares?? (I know DUMB question) Do elves wear wedding rings??? I had another but I cannot remember it. Oh well. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

06-08-2002, 10:22 AM	#13
Silent Wanderer Guest Posts: n/a	Elves probably have nightmares, but they're so well reserved that you would never know if they had a good dream or not. Do they wear Wedding rings? Probably

06-08-2002, 03:38 PM	#14
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Ready for more silly questions??? What kind of shoes do elves wear? Do elves faint?? (probably the dumbest one yet) Are Elf-children well behaved?? __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

06-08-2002, 03:46 PM	#15
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Yes they wear wedding rings on their RIGHT hands. Ask Nufaciel for the page #. It's in "Morgoth's ring" in the Sil. Elf children are so well behaved that they require very little what's the word I'm looking for ... it's not guidance... instruction. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

06-08-2002, 04:58 PM	#16
Nevfeniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mithlond Posts: 783	Do you mean dicipline, Raefindel? __________________ Consider the purr a variety of audible tranquilizer. [. . .] For a few of us, there is one more purr, a secret purr. When we combine our secret purrs, we produce the Purr of Power. And that is simply the amplified amity we feel as furred and purred beings.

06-08-2002, 05:32 PM	#17
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	On their RIGHT hands?? Interesting....... __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

06-09-2002, 10:34 PM	#18
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Why is no one posting here? What kind of shoes to Elves wear?? __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

06-09-2002, 10:41 PM	#19
Ithaeliel Cornus Caliga Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Five-hundred-twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes from here Posts: 710	Tight green shoes that are pointy and have jingle bells on the ends! No, just kidding, they were said to wear flat-soled shoes that were noiseless instead of boots for traveling, or on many occasions I suppose they went barefoot. Lucky! __________________ That best portion of a good man's life, His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. .................William Wordsworth

06-10-2002, 12:02 AM	#20
Gimli Son Of Gloin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Halls of Montezuma, and the Shores of Tripoli Posts: 495	What would have happened if Legolas had taken a bath in Galadriel's mirror(from the secret diaries) __________________ The Few, the Proud, the Marines.

06-10-2002, 12:11 AM	#21
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Gimli, you know better than to be reading the secret diaries. Shame on you [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] But anyway, he'd probably be kicked all the way to the Eymn Muil. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

06-10-2002, 03:33 PM	#22
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Gimli would have been kiched att the way to Mordor and back! Barefoot?? Really lucky!! __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

06-10-2002, 10:01 PM	#23
obloquy Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 941	scottish guys wear skirts but they dont call them skirts theyre called kilts so that makes them not gay i guess

06-11-2002, 10:22 AM	#24
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	I think Elves are Like the coolest of all ME ah um thingss [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] . I also think they were Tolkiens favorite, I mean come on he wrote the entire Silmarilion on them But words of wisdom (sometimes) TO EACH HIS OWN __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

06-13-2002, 09:29 PM	#25
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Hmmmm... Do Elves sleep????? __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

06-14-2002, 05:06 PM	#26
Susan Delgado The Perished Flame Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: behind my eyes Posts: 1,096	Certainly...but they probably require less sleep than a human. __________________ "Man as a whole, Man pitted against the universe, have we seen him at all 'til we see that he is like a hero in a fairy tale?"

06-15-2002, 06:26 PM	#27
The Silver-shod Muse Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The shoulder of a poet, TX Posts: 388	I thought that Elves just did this meditation thing where they experienced visions and the like instead of sleeping. When Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are pursuing Merry, Pippin and the Orcs, Legolas took watch duty while the other two slept because he didn't need it. He had "slept" while on the foot. [ June 15, 2002: Message edited by: The Silver-shod Muse ] __________________ "'You," he said, "tell her all. What good came to you? Do you rejoice that Maleldil became a man? Tell her of your joys, and of what profit you had when you made Maleldil and death acquainted.'" -Perelandra, by C.S. Lewis

08-24-2002, 06:00 PM	#28
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Hmmmmm............ Do elves wash their hair??? __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

08-24-2002, 09:02 PM	#29
Nevfeniel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mithlond Posts: 783	Of course Elves wash their hair! Why do you think it's so nice and shiny? Now, the real question is: do they use some special shampoo? __________________ Consider the purr a variety of audible tranquilizer. [. . .] For a few of us, there is one more purr, a secret purr. When we combine our secret purrs, we produce the Purr of Power. And that is simply the amplified amity we feel as furred and purred beings.

08-25-2002, 08:33 PM	#30
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Do elf siblings argue with each other when they are young???? Some elves are healers but what happenes when the healer needs healing?? __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

08-26-2002, 11:49 AM	#31
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	C'mon people! Just take a few miniutes to answer the ravings of a hobbit!!! __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

08-26-2002, 12:08 PM	#32
LadyElbereth Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Taniquetil Posts: 183	how 'bout... Can elves have poor eye sight? if so, do they wear glasses? __________________ If I could be anything, I'd be your tear, so I could be born in your eye, live down your cheek, and die on your lips.

08-26-2002, 12:13 PM	#33
Aranel Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 29	Elves don't have bad eyesight.They see about a million times better than we could imagine,I'm thinking.Erego,no glasses. Here's an idiotic question for you...do elves have underarm hair? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

08-26-2002, 12:15 PM	#34
Aranel Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 29	Just a note...I know it is spelled Thoreau and not Thorough,but it was like three am so cut me some slack... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

08-26-2002, 12:31 PM	#35
Aramacil Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 131	I don't know if they have underarm hair and I don't care. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] This Topic is getting a little to personal. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ "I will take the Ring," he said, "though I do not know the way."