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01-20-2016, 01:46 PM | #41 |
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I'm sure the Dunlendings migration happened in the Dark Years of the Second Age, where they moved North to escape Sauron's shadow and so long pre-dating the establishment of Arnor.
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However, I think this serves to highlight the point I made earlier that the foundation of Arnor did not cause disruption to the Bree-folk.
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It doesn't give the reason for the move north, but you could be right. Point is though, that those migrant Dunlendings didn't harbor enough ill will toward the Dûnedain to induce them to resist Arnor. The Bree-men, at any rate, had no qualms with being subjects of the Northern Kingdom.
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I think "during the Dark Years" may be indicative that they were fleeing Sauron.
However, it is interesting because during certain periods the area they moved across was an active war zone and not all that empty, at least of military forces.
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Those of Rhudaur and the area around Angmar don't seem to have been a problem until the Witch-king showed up and brought them under his sway.
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The Pukel-men are presumably not the people whom we refer to as the Men of the Mountains/Oathbreakers/the Dead. (I might be wrong about this...another point for discussion?) So the tall men from the East would, in this case, be the Men of the Mountains/Dunlendings who were wicked at heart. In this case the Dunlendings were invaders as well in their own right. But then who are the natives of Enedwaith? For some reason I think of them as being related to the Dunlendings.
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It was later, after the time of King Aldarion, that the inhabitants of Enedwaith (presumably those same peoples who had met the Núemenórean voyagers before) that became hostile because of the Ship-men's timber-cutting. The Númenóreans then started treating them as enemies.
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