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01-14-2004, 02:25 PM | #1 |
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Uruk-Hai
Are Uruks just the creation of Sarumon or did Sauron have them to? I seem to remember it being mentioned somewhere that a race of larger orcs called Uruks came to Mordor some time before the war. Also, is there any difference in calling them Uruks or Uruk-Hai?
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01-14-2004, 03:07 PM | #2 |
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Saruman's Uruk-hai creation is a misconception caused by the movie. He bred orcs and golbin-men, but Sauron had beat him to the sun-resistant orcs. In the Black Speech, "Uruk" simply means orc, but it is almost always used in reference to the Uruk-hai. Certainly so when speaking of these larger orcs.
This is a fairly basic, often-asked question. Moving to N&N. <font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:16 PM January 14, 2004: Message edited by: Legolas ]
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01-14-2004, 04:06 PM | #3 |
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this is oft asked.
i am almost sure that "uruk-hai' simply means 'orc-folk', and as such could refer to any orcs. this is linquistically true, but it might not be in practice...
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01-14-2004, 04:24 PM | #4 |
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Sauron took Osgiliath with "Black Uruk's of Mordor" but then Boromir go it back
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01-17-2004, 06:18 AM | #5 |
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Also on the topic of orcs, during the ROTK movie when Frodo has been bitten by Shelob and is being held captive in one of the towers in Mordor a fight breaks out. It seems that the fight has arisen between an Uruk-Hai and an Orc. The Uruk kills the orc (i think) and then there is a large fight on the lower levels between the beasts. Is this fight between Orcs and Uruk-Hai? Or is it simply a all in brawl.
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01-17-2004, 07:59 AM | #6 |
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Uruks, I believe, were large trolls. In RotK, the orcs were of different "companies"- some were of Minas Morgul, and some were from Barad-dur. They didn't trust each other, and so they started a civil war over a shirt of mail.
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01-17-2004, 01:58 PM | #7 |
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I believe there was a breed of trolls known as the Olag-Hai in the Return of the King but Uruks were definitely orcs.
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