Isildur - the name - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Purple Elf · 01-03-2004, 04:16 AM

Whilst translating a friends name into Quenyan, i noticed that according to this dictionary site: http://pw1.netcom.com/~heensle/lang/...a/engquen.html
Moon is translated to, rána or isil, was this the meaning behind Isildur's name? If so does this have any significance to his character?
I would be gald to hear your thoughts [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

nobody · 01-03-2004, 04:21 AM

Isildur means 'Servant/lover/friend of the Moon' I think, and The Lords of Andunië had a thing for naming their children with names like Valandil 'Servant/lover/friend of the Valar' and stuff like that. Minas Ithil, Isildur's city, also means 'Tower of the Moon' and the fief Isildur ruled from it was called Ithillien. The same applied for Anárion his brother except with Anor (sun).

Eöl · 01-03-2004, 07:06 AM

it's true meaning is 'Devoted to the Moon'.

Eöl

Finwe · 01-03-2004, 12:34 PM

The Numenoreans and Dunedain had a penchant for putting Servant-something-or-other in their kids' names. Perhaps that's why the Kings rebelled. They got tired of being called "Servant-of-so-and-so." [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Legolas · 01-03-2004, 03:05 PM

Straight question-answer, moving to N&N.

01-03-2004, 05:30 PM

i really never thought about wat isildur's name meant

01-03-2004, 05:32 PM

" I am but isildur's heir not isildur himself" - Aragorn

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 01-04-2004, 05:32 AM

Btw, do you guys know, how accurate that Quenya dictionary site (link above...) is? I mean there are lots of "Elvish" sites in the Net but most of them aren't that original Tolkien's Elvish.
For example in that site
" bird(small)/ince,filit[filici]"
instead of Ardalambion's "small bird= aiwë (plural aiwi)"

Thorongil · 01-04-2004, 07:09 AM

Gandalf said he was the wielder of the flame of Anor. Is Anor the same as Anar,
meaning that he used the flame of the sun?

The Dark Elf · 01-04-2004, 12:53 PM

Isildur is a shady character. dont you think the Moon is shady?

01-03-2004, 04:16 AM	#1
Purple Elf Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: A tree somewhere anywhere! Posts: 34	Isildur - the name Whilst translating a friends name into Quenyan, i noticed that according to this dictionary site: http://pw1.netcom.com/~heensle/lang/...a/engquen.html Moon is translated to, rána or isil, was this the meaning behind Isildur's name? If so does this have any significance to his character? I would be gald to hear your thoughts [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ "Because i belived you to be indeed Luthien Tinuvel, of whom i was singing. but if you are not she, then you walk in her likeness." - Aragorn

01-03-2004, 04:21 AM	#2
nobody Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Utumno Posts: 64	Isildur means 'Servant/lover/friend of the Moon' I think, and The Lords of Andunië had a thing for naming their children with names like Valandil 'Servant/lover/friend of the Valar' and stuff like that. Minas Ithil, Isildur's city, also means 'Tower of the Moon' and the fief Isildur ruled from it was called Ithillien. The same applied for Anárion his brother except with Anor (sun). __________________ I am evil

01-03-2004, 07:06 AM	#3
Eöl Animated Skeleton Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nan Elmoth Posts: 35	it's true meaning is 'Devoted to the Moon'. Eöl __________________ '...though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again,from you and from me a new star shall arise' -Huor

01-03-2004, 12:34 PM	#4
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	The Numenoreans and Dunedain had a penchant for putting Servant-something-or-other in their kids' names. Perhaps that's why the Kings rebelled. They got tired of being called "Servant-of-so-and-so." [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

01-03-2004, 03:05 PM	#5
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Straight question-answer, moving to N&N. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

01-03-2004, 05:30 PM	#6
Aragorn10123 Guest Posts: n/a	i really never thought about wat isildur's name meant

01-03-2004, 05:32 PM	#7
Aragorn10123 Guest Posts: n/a	" I am but isildur's heir not isildur himself" - Aragorn

01-04-2004, 05:32 AM	#8
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	Btw, do you guys know, how accurate that Quenya dictionary site (link above...) is? I mean there are lots of "Elvish" sites in the Net but most of them aren't that original Tolkien's Elvish. For example in that site " bird(small)/ince,filit[filici]" instead of Ardalambion's "small bird= aiwë (plural aiwi)" __________________ Fenris Wolf

01-04-2004, 07:09 AM	#9
Thorongil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Elvenpath Posts: 780	Gandalf said he was the wielder of the flame of Anor. Is Anor the same as Anar, meaning that he used the flame of the sun? __________________ To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. ~Sun Tzu

01-04-2004, 12:53 PM	#10
The Dark Elf Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Angmar Posts: 74	Isildur is a shady character. dont you think the Moon is shady? __________________ "Fool of a Took!"