Boromir's horn - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

dragoneyes · 11-21-2002, 01:02 PM

In the fight scene, just before he dies, Boromir's horn is cloven in half but I have yet to pinpoint when it actually is. If there is already a topic on this, please direct me to it. Ta!

Túroch · 11-21-2002, 08:39 PM

I've noticed this discrepency too. From what I can tell the first shot of his broken horn is after the third arrow. All shots before it show the horn as whole.

Burzdol · 05-27-2003, 07:30 PM

I agree with Turoch on this one.Burzdol

Finwe · 05-27-2003, 07:32 PM

It is possible that the actual cleaving of the horn will be shown in flashbacks when Pippin is telling Denethor how exactly Boromir died. I know that PJ is going to tell quite a bit about Boromir and Faramir in flashbacks, so he probably will include that little scene.

HCIsland · 05-27-2003, 08:39 PM

It's possible an orc sword caught the horn as well. Don't expect to see this. The horn was not something that was made a big deal of in the movie so a shot of it actually being broken was likely never made.The cleaved horn being in at all was for fans of the book.H.C.

Shy Hobbit · 05-28-2003, 06:12 PM

There is a picture of someone holding the cloven horn in RotK at councilofelrond. So I wouldn't give up all hope of it's details being left out.

HCIsland · 05-28-2003, 06:16 PM

There's a picture of what looks like Faramir holding the horn. I think that will be for the special edition Two Towers. I'm just saying, don't expect to see a shot of how it got split in two. It really isn't particularly relevant.H.C.

Finwe · 05-28-2003, 07:03 PM

That's true. And PJ has proved himself to be a stickler for only relevant things. Look at all the "irrelevant" characters that he's cut. He even cut the El-twins! He probably isn't going to bother about a "minor" scene like that.

Shy Hobbit · 05-28-2003, 07:56 PM

Well, I thought throwing Aragorn over a cliff was irrelevant but that's another thread... ok anyways *ahem* since there is a scene of someone holding the horn, there will be something said of it, but not necesarily how it was split. That was my original point, I should have made myself more clear. But I too have wondered why they included showing the split horn but not exactly how it was done.

HCIsland · 05-28-2003, 08:44 PM

All I'm saying is how the horn got split is not particularly relevant. Tolkien didn't talk about it either. It got split in battle, that's enough.H.C.

Scott · 05-28-2003, 09:59 PM

Think of the audiences that Jackson had to produce the movies for. Do you think that the majority of people would've enjoyed a close-up on his horn being smashed, or some orc heads rolling about more? Even though I'm a huge fan of the books, I would still rather see orc heads flying more than horn shards. ~Scott

sassyfriend · 09-02-2011, 03:45 PM

I think it happend after the 2nd arrow hit him but i'm not sure. It also looked like he got wacked in the stomache with a sword too.

11-21-2002, 01:02 PM	#1
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 733	Boromir's horn In the fight scene, just before he dies, Boromir's horn is cloven in half but I have yet to pinpoint when it actually is. If there is already a topic on this, please direct me to it. Ta! __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

11-21-2002, 08:39 PM	#2
Túroch Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State University Posts: 102	I've noticed this discrepency too. From what I can tell the first shot of his broken horn is after the third arrow. All shots before it show the horn as whole. __________________ For the valour of the Edain the Elves shall ever remember as the ages lengthen, marvelling that they gave life so freely of which thay had on earth so little. But it is not for thy valour only that I send thee, but to bring into the world a hope beyond thy sight, and a light that shall pierce the darkness." Ulmo - Lord of waters

05-27-2003, 07:30 PM	#3
Burzdol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Fair City of Rivendell Posts: 274	I agree with Turoch on this one.<P>Burzdol __________________ "Kill them all for all I care. You just keep that bow away from me!"

05-27-2003, 07:32 PM	#4
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	It is possible that the actual cleaving of the horn will be shown in flashbacks when Pippin is telling Denethor how exactly Boromir died. I know that PJ is going to tell quite a bit about Boromir and Faramir in flashbacks, so he probably will include that little scene. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

05-27-2003, 08:39 PM	#5
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	It's possible an orc sword caught the horn as well. Don't expect to see this. The horn was not something that was made a big deal of in the movie so a shot of it actually being broken was likely never made.<P>The cleaved horn being in at all was for fans of the book.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

05-28-2003, 06:12 PM	#6
Shy Hobbit Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world Posts: 201	There is a picture of someone holding the cloven horn in RotK at councilofelrond. So I wouldn't give up all hope of it's details being left out. __________________ Make Middle-Earth a friendlier place, hug a balrog today! ~The Fellowship of the King~

05-28-2003, 06:16 PM	#7
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	There's a picture of what looks like Faramir holding the horn. I think that will be for the special edition Two Towers. I'm just saying, don't expect to see a shot of how it got split in two. It really isn't particularly relevant.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

05-28-2003, 07:03 PM	#8
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	That's true. And PJ has proved himself to be a stickler for only relevant things. Look at all the "irrelevant" characters that he's cut. He even cut the El-twins! He probably isn't going to bother about a "minor" scene like that. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

05-28-2003, 07:56 PM	#9
Shy Hobbit Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my own little world Posts: 201	Well, I thought throwing Aragorn over a cliff was irrelevant but that's another thread... ok anyways ahem since there is a scene of someone holding the horn, there will be something said of it, but not necesarily how it was split. That was my original point, I should have made myself more clear. But I too have wondered why they included showing the split horn but not exactly how it was done. __________________ Make Middle-Earth a friendlier place, hug a balrog today! ~The Fellowship of the King~

05-28-2003, 08:44 PM	#10
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	All I'm saying is how the horn got split is not particularly relevant. Tolkien didn't talk about it either. It got split in battle, that's enough.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

05-28-2003, 09:59 PM	#11
Scott Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio/Grey Havens Posts: 183	Think of the audiences that Jackson had to produce the movies for. Do you think that the majority of people would've enjoyed a close-up on his horn being smashed, or some orc heads rolling about more?<BR>Even though I'm a huge fan of the books, I would still rather see orc heads flying more than horn shards.<BR>~Scott __________________ Those who the Gods would destroy, They first make mad. ~Those Crazy Greeks

09-02-2011, 03:45 PM	#12
sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	I think it happend after the 2nd arrow hit him but i'm not sure. It also looked like he got wacked in the stomache with a sword too.